Found Safe IN - Bryson Muir, 14, *poss in danger*, Logansport, last seen leaving Ohio w/his mother, Kristen Muir, Servant Leader’s Foundation, 16 Jun '24

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Now things will get interesting. I don’t think they run. I do think this will give them time to plan their strategy. fortunately they can’t get their kids yet. I hope Grandma is being protected.
 
Jemma said:
Now things will get interesting. I don’t think they run. I do think this will give them time to plan their strategy. fortunately they can’t get their kids yet. I hope Grandma is being protected.
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I don't think they will run either, but I am skeptical they will actually show up for their next court date.

jmo
 
Jemma said:
www.wthr.com

Court docs share new details on disappearance, alleged abuse of former Colts player's teenage son

Bryson Muir, 14, was reported missing June 16 and was found safe July 3 at his family's home in Logansport.
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this article has some
interesting tidbits!
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Yes, interesting.

We've heard the dad's "whoop *advertiser censored**" version and now we hear the mom's version:

"Investigators then spoke with Kristin Muir, who allegedly told them a different story about how Bryson got his injuries. According to court documents, Kristin said Bryson was taking out the trash and walked over to the train tracks near their Logansport property because he liked trains. While near the tracks, Kristin said Bryson allegedly told her he had been punched by someone he didn't know."

info from the link in the quoted post.
 
Mack the Knife said:
Does this mean he’s saying that Bryson was in the car?
Is it possible that police asked if Bryson was in the car and were told no so they were just like oh okay bye?

It seems like that can’t possibly be the case, but if it’s not the case, where was he? What’s the value in Daniel for (hypothetically) lying about this part?
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They still seem to be playing games, lying, changing their stories...just trifling! moo
 
tlcya said:
So now we know Daniel's excuse for beating his son. We don't know if what he alleges is true or false. Either way, beating a child who acts inappropriately is an ineffective way to handle the problem. It solves nothing except harm yet another child.

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Still, I share your confusion.
 
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www.newsweek.com

Ex-NFL Player 'whopped' son for allegedly touching boys' private parts

New details surrounding the events leading up to the arrests of former NFL player Daniel Muir and his wife, Kristen, have been released.
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Bryson Muir told investigators that last September, his father "whopped" him with a green water hose after his mother "popped" him in the mouth and the teen jerked and "flopped" around. Daniel Muir's alleged actions resulted in bruises on his son's legs, arms, and butt, the teen claimed.

He described two other alleged incidents of physical punishment, including one that reportedly happened last May when Daniel Muir "popped" him after he tried to poke holes in the walls of the home, leaving him with a bloody nose.

In another alleged instance, the Muir parents told their son and seemingly a sibling to clean their bedroom. Bryson Muir claimed his dad "popped" him in the mouth and also "got the rod," which he said meant he was spanked with a belt on his butt, which left bruises.

At this point, Kristen Muir halted the interview, allegedly worried that her son's statements would be misconstrued. Kristen Muir stated that none of the children in the home were abused or neglected, and asked that investigators move away from the topic of punishment, which they did.
 
If, and I mean, HEAVY on the if, Bryson did this

Well..these communes and cults are rife with child SA. It permeates their daily life. On the surface, it's ok for the older men to marry young girls- and touch them, but they pretend the molestation of the boys doesn't happen and that no one is on the down low...

But these places attract child predators. If Bryson did do it...he is a victim himself, and only doing what he has been taught. Hard Stop. This child is not to blame for anything, nothing. He needs help and he needs to be out of the cult
As many of you know I was in the church of Yahweh for a short time and watched it destroy my family. Physical abuse, starvation, and SA of all kinds were common. They would not let me live with my SO because we were not legally married, so me and my stepdaughter went to on trailer and my SO and stepson went to another on the other side of the compound. Eventually they allowed us to be together because they knew I was waffling and about to to take the kids and run. (We did a month later, all of us, me my ex and kids, my three BIL and their wives and kids , we all left but the damage was done)

If I had not been there, my stepdaughter would have been gifted to someone else. If my SO had not been there, and it was just me and the kids, my stepson would have been gifted to a man to raise.

What do you think happens to those kids who are separated from their parents?

Exactly.

ETA in our case, they let us go willingly. My ex and his brothers...well, they did not want that kind of competition, four good looking men from far away with more modern ideas...and young, not old men......and me and my other SIL very obviously not being believers, they wanted us to leave too. My mother was law enforcement, and they thought we were too much trouble
 
Eli9 said:
Will time away from his parents help or hurt BM? Will he be receiving any kind of therapy during this time?
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Hopefully.

If he is in state care , if it is like my state, they have a limited amount of time to get the kids seen by a Dr, a Dentist, and a therapist.
But that was pre covid, and they stopped requiring it during, and I don't know if they ever went back to enforcing those requirements
 
The judge modified a no contact order between the Muirs and their teenage son. Daniel is charged with battery for allegedly hitting the boy.

Published: 3:10 PM EDT August 1, 2024
Updated: 3:56 PM EDT August 1, 2024
LOGANSPORT, Ind. — Daniel and Kristin Muir will be allowed to see their teenage son with DCS supervision.

That was the ruling from a judge in Cass County Court on Thursday, Aug. 1.
The judge agreed to modify a no contact order between the Muirs and their child, while they are awaiting trial.

www.wthr.com

Ex-Colts player and his wife will be allowed to see son with supervision

The judge modified a no contact order between the Muirs and their teenage son. Daniel is charged with battery for allegedly hitting the boy.
www.wthr.com www.wthr.com
 
Rosydecember said:
I hate hate hate how they are saying he was found alive and well…. Well… why are they downplaying this? He is not well. Ugh
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I think the term "alive and well" is meant to reflect that A) the person is not dead and B) they are not suffering from any further physical injuries than they had when they went missing. It doesn't always mean alive and well. Well can be construed in many ways.
 
Inthedetails said:
Yes, interesting.

We've heard the dad's "whoop *advertiser censored**" version and now we hear the mom's version:

"Investigators then spoke with Kristin Muir, who allegedly told them a different story about how Bryson got his injuries. According to court documents, Kristin said Bryson was taking out the trash and walked over to the train tracks near their Logansport property because he liked trains. While near the tracks, Kristin said Bryson allegedly told her he had been punched by someone he didn't know."

info from the link in the quoted post.
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A random person punched him ?
Sorry -- NOT buying it.
Omo.
 
Considering said:
I think we need to be very careful in interpreting the phrase "inappropriate touching" since that came from a member of a religous cult. We have no idea what this cult deems as "inappropriate". Consider that there are very conservative, religious groups who only side hug members of the opposite sex, don't hold hands until engagement, and never share a kiss until after their marriage ceremony. It's my opinion that most people would not consider doing those things outside of engagement or marriage as inappropriate. In this situation, it could be as simple as Bryson smiling at a teenage girl or it could be something more serious. We have no idea what the behavior was that the father referred to as inappropriate.
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I totally agree. He's a 14 year old boy, with hormones, and going through puberty. He's the right age to start thinking about, and pursuing, romantic relationships. He could have been doing something perfectly normal and natural in the real world, but these nut jobs (MOO!) think is incredibly inappropriate. It could be something as innocent as being alone with a girl, or holding hands. If it's something more nefarious, then that is concerning. Whilst I don't condone that, I can understand how a young person, growing up in his situation, can make horrible choices and act out.

Regardless, he needs help, guidance, support, love and a safe place to call home, with a supportive guardian, until he is of an age and maturity level to go out into the world on his own.

MOO of course.
 
HoneyBunOne said:
I totally agree. He's a 14 year old boy, with hormones, and going through puberty. He's the right age to start thinking about, and pursuing, romantic relationships. He could have been doing something perfectly normal and natural in the real world, but these nut jobs (MOO!) think is incredibly inappropriate. It could be something as innocent as being alone with a girl, or holding hands. If it's something more nefarious, then that is concerning. Whilst I don't condone that, I can understand how a young person, growing up in his situation, can make horrible choices and act out.

Regardless, he needs help, guidance, support, love and a safe place to call home, with a supportive guardian, until he is of an age and maturity level to go out into the world on his own.

MOO of course.
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Agreed.

I have experience with cults like this one, and chances are, he kissed a girl. The girls are not for same age boys. The girls are for the father and cult leader to choose a husband for. They basically sell them. Multiple wives are common, it is the goal for all the men in the cult to attain to, to get high enough in the ranks so they too, can be blessed with multiple wives. Only the leaders, or Ka'hans can gift wives.

They are to remain apart from boys and men, sometimes even their own fathers. The same thing happens to the boys, at a certain age they are removed from girls and sometimes even their parents.
SOmetimes these kids only see their bio families at the feasts.

And horrible things happen. If he did do something wrong, it is because it was done to him at the cult. That's how these things go

Regardless, he is 14 years old and has been abused physically and mentally, and I hope that not only he can be happy and safe outside the cutl, but I hope this brings more attention to these kids of cults so that hopefully, other children can be saved.
 
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