IN - Couple charged with abandonment of adopted child after legally changing her age, Sept 2019

[ioethe]

Oh no I think there’s no ignorance with her at all. Kid was diagnosed with something mild maybe and this woman exaggerated it to epic proportions. Just like in her book she exaggerated the 2008 recession to people everywhere burning furniture for heat and how the ailed at Walmart looked like a hurricane had hit and the shelves were barren. People who lived in the area at the time of all that who read her book said none of it was true.

She’s exaggerated many things. Like being able to do 40 hours of work each day. Every day.

Oh no I think there’s no ignorance with her at all. Kid was diagnosed with something mild maybe and this woman exaggerated it to epic proportions. Just like in her book she exaggerated the 2008 recession to people everywhere burning furniture for heat and how the ailed at Walmart looked like a hurricane had hit and the shelves were barren. People who lived in the area at the time of all that who read her book said none of it was true.

She’s exaggerated many things. Like being able to do 40 hours of work each day. Every day.

I don’t think KB was ignorant about what kind of autism Jake has - but it is possible the she has been misquoted.

I don’t think she *has* - I think claiming Jake has severe autism when he has at most mild autism is perfectly in her idiom - but I have to acknowledge that it’s a possibility.

 

[gitana1]

IIRC, she said she was “at least 18” which makes me wonder what question they asked her, and how they can cherry pick declarations of “truth in a psych ward? Was she tossed in there after the age adjustment when dear mother told her to tell people she looked young, (maybe at least 18)?

I’m sure at that point the mother had the psych facility convinced. At this point little N would likely say whatever she could to get out.

I remember an episode of the Little Couple and how hard it was for their son to adjust to kindergarten because coming from an orphanage it brought back memories and made him fear he wasn’t coming home.

Imagine poor N. She’s been out of the grim institutional setting now for four years and suddenly because she had the bad luck of being with seriously disturbed adoptive parents, she’s thrust back in. The horror she must have felt. And unlike the kids of the Little Couple, any fears of not coming back home were founded.

I don’t know how she’s going to get through all that trauma.

 

[Errrr]

It’s such an odd mistake to make. Presumably the medical records which the DePauls are referencing were made available to the Barnetts. Why would they, or their doctor, change the narrative in that way?

Unless it’s because there are famous people with the other kind and they thought they’d get more attention that way?

When you go on a doctor shopping expedition with this objective, it’s advisable to get one from the bottom percentile, preferably a GP who likes to make pronouncements reserved for specialists. Has his image been splattered over the internet yet? Or is he a protected adult?

 

[gitana1]

I don’t think KB was ignorant about what kind of autism Jake has - but it is possible the she has been misquoted.

I don’t think she *has* - I think claiming Jake has severe autism when he has at most mild autism is perfectly in her idiom - but I have to acknowledge that it’s a possibility.

Yup!

Yeah it’s apparently in her book. She goes with the narrative that he has been diagnosed with severe autism that she was able to magick away with her heroic brilliance.

 

[Meloni88]

When you go on a doctor shopping expedition with this objective, it’s advisable to get one from the bottom percentile, preferably a GP who likes to make pronouncements reserved for specialists. Has his image been splattered over the internet yet? Or is he a protected adult?

Andrew P. McLaren, MD | IU Health this is him. His photo was in the original DM article.

 

[ioethe]

Yup!

Yeah it’s apparently in her book. She goes with the narrative that he has been diagnosed with severe autism that she was able to magick away with her heroic brilliance.

There was a review which said that the particular diagnostic tool she claims was used with Jake is one which cannot be applied under the age of six. I really can’t bear to give her money for the book but I’d be fascinated to know. Two is extremely young (not unheard of, but very young) to be diagnosed.

 

[gitana1]

There was a review which said that the particular diagnostic tool she claims was used with Jake is one which cannot be applied under the age of six. I really can’t bear to give her money for the book but I’d be fascinated to know. Two is extremely young (not unheard of, but very young) to be diagnosed.

I’m with you. I’ve relied on excerpts and reviews because I don’t want to give that woman a dollar.

 

[Errrr]

Kristine IMO
Histrionic and Narcissistic Personality Disorder

LOL
She opened the door!

 

[Amonet]

Just read McLaren's letter again.

He says "because she has spondyloepiphyseal dysplasia... conventional methods of determining age are not useful". And he says she was seen by an orthopedist and endocrinologist (Dr Riggs??) and that neither specialist could "help substantially" with an age assessment. A bald faced lie! They gave age assessments! He basically says we can't age her because of this [incorrect] diagnosis of dwarfism but still testifies that she is 22 based on a psychologist(?!) saying she is "fully grown", a dentist saying she has "adult dentition" and the girl allegedly admitting to being 18 after being committed to a psych ward which is surely hearsay and not a meaningful statement considering the environment she was in. This man is an absolute quack and should be flogged in the street.

I had forgotten the details in the letter before watching that video by the DePaul's daughter. I thought the Dr was maybe writing something in support of Michael Barnett and was repeating what he'd been told by MB by way of support rather than medical diagnosis of N (at the top of the page it has Michael's name, not N's).

Looking again at the content, it looks like even the Doctor was cherry-picking results of tests and misconstruing things like 'adult teeth', 'fully grown', menstruation and secondary sex characteristics as if they all automatically make someone an 'adult'. And there are photos from later than 2011 showing that N is still losing baby teeth, so how does that constitute 'adult dentition' to the point of changing her legal age to 22?

What does 'fully grown' even mean? Does it mean her stature isn't likely to increase? Could that be due to the precocious puberty combined with the form of dwarfism? And what kind of psychiatrists make a determination of 'fully grown'?

There's sort of pseudo-medical terminology in the letter, but it's being used as spin with the assessments from various specialists being cherry picked to fit the apparent desire of the Barnetts to achieve the legal age change.

 

[gitana1]

Andrew P. McLaren, MD | IU Health this is him. His photo was in the original DM article.

I hope he is deeply ashamed of himself right now.

 

[Meloni88]

There was a review which said that the particular diagnostic tool she claims was used with Jake is one which cannot be applied under the age of six. I really can’t bear to give her money for the book but I’d be fascinated to know. Two is extremely young (not unheard of, but very young) to be diagnosed.

I flipped through it at the library lol. I couldn't stomach it.

 

[Dawn Day]

I hope he is deeply ashamed of himself right now.

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I hope he’s embarrassed,too. And if it can be established that he violated patient (NB’s) confidentiality, or violated any tenant of the AMA guidelines, I hope that he will be brought up on charges before the medical board. He deserves to be tarred and feathered.

 

[mickey2942]

When you go on a doctor shopping expedition with this objective, it’s advisable to get one from the bottom percentile, preferably a GP who likes to make pronouncements reserved for specialists. Has his image been splattered over the internet yet? Or is he a protected adult?

It is really amazing, that doctors will "sell out" their degrees. I have read things that "doctors" have written, and really wonder why no one has confronted them about their claims.

 

[felineblue]

Oh no I think there’s no ignorance with her at all. Kid was diagnosed with something mild maybe and this woman exaggerated it to epic proportions. Just like in her book she exaggerated the 2008 recession to people everywhere burning furniture for heat and how the ailed at Walmart looked like a hurricane had hit and the shelves were barren. People who lived in the area at the time of all that who read her book said none of it was true.

She’s exaggerated many things. Like being able to do 40 hours of work each day. Every day.

It seems that some people with narcissistic personality disorder start to believe their version of events as the truth, they forget the rest. They also tend to think anybody who disagrees with them is ignorant and that they know more than everybody else. Its also possible her son acted ‘more autistic’ around her to please her. I’m sure she would not believe anybody else’s reports of the severity of his disorder. Yeah, I am so suspicious of this woman lol..... I was raised by a person who seems like her and took me years to realize what happened in the past.

 

[Meloni88]

And I hope she can sue him for everything. He had a duty of care and he didnt just fail her he absolutely screwed her and caused real, longlasting harm.

 

[gitana1]

It seems that some people with narcissistic personality disorder start to believe their version of events as the truth, they forget the rest. They also tend to think anybody who disagrees with them is ignorant and that they know more than everybody else. Its also possible her son acted ‘more autistic’ around her to please her. I’m sure she would not believe anybody else’s reports of the severity of his disorder. Yeah, I am so suspicious of this woman lol..... I was raised by a person who seems like her and took me years to realize what happened in the past.

That’s awful. It’s a lot to endure and overcome.

 

[gitana1]

And I hope she can sue him for everything. He had a duty of care and he didnt just fail her he absolutely screwed her and caused real, longlasting harm.

I’m sure she can. I hope she does at some point.

 

[gitana1]

The DuPaul daughter says in you tube comment that they had N in 2008. So it appears the first family didn’t have her long.

 

[felineblue]

That’s awful. It’s a lot to endure and overcome.

Well, almost everyone has had something to endure....And if you think something is normal while its happening its not as bad as realizing you were being ‘tricked’ by family. To be honest I have a hard time figuring out what is/was true. I DO know I can trust whatever the majority of doctors agree with. With people like this I think its safe to trust specialists over self proclaimed experts. But when your parent is the self proclaimed expert it is actually hard to trust doctors over your own family.

 

[Meloni88]

I wonder if it was even the Ciccones in the other room at the Florida adoption agency then. I mean they were from New Hampshire right and the DePauls were in upstate NY. Why did they have to pick her up in FL?