Midwestmom2019
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$12,000 is a lot of money for some people. But we don’t really know how much they paid for the trip. The estimate is based on balcony cabins. There are much lower priced cabins without balconies (or windows for that matter).
AW is a police officer and KW is an attorney. Both pretty well paid professions. Is the assumption that they were hurting for money just because they had a fund raising page for their sons’ hockey trip? If you’ve ever been on a RCCL cruise you’d know that there are plenty of people who would appear to earn a lot less than a cop and an attorney filling the ships. Even in high season. Strikes me as odd that you’d be concerned with how a professional family afforded a 7 cruise on a ship with thousands of other people. JMO as they say.
No concern. Observation. Curiosity. They might sacrifice elsewhere. Saving on vehicles by driving beaters. Clipping coupons. Shopping thrift stores. From the family photos, they appear to have a beautiful home. Take advantage of social activities. Games. Outings. Chloe’s clothing is precious. I don’t know about a foodie, but definitely a clothes horse. Clothes Pony.
We don’t know how they manage to provide for an apparently great life on their incomes. No one bemoans their life. Or is envious of their life. AW might work overtime every chance he gets. Or a second job periodically. We don’t know if KW is working. Apparently before she was with the DA’s office. That’s the point. We’re asking.
We do know they have internet sites to raise funds for themselves. For SA. And that intrigues us. Many of us feel like this speaks to the type of people they are. Funds for tragedies usually are set up by friends or other family. Neighbors. And it’s a one time deal. They had a site for the son’s hockey trip prior to this cruise. Did they have other sites? No sleuthing so we don’t know.
Americans are some of the MOST generous people on earth. Volunteer hours logged by Americans way and by far outpace other countries. Maybe if they hadn’t traveled before AND the son needed help with funding his hockey trip, I’d feel different. It seems that they can afford a beautiful home, active social life, multiple cruising vacations, in whatever cabins they choose, yet rely on raising money on the internet for their son’s hockey trip. Or Chloe’s funeral. Yet cremate her. Or SA’s criminal defense. I doubt $5000 pays for much of SA defense costs. Travel and hotels. Sure. But apparently his attorney is preparing a mock up. Hiring experts. That’s not cheap.
Go Fu nd Me is just another piece of the family tragedy.
Like your very descriptive posts about motive, intent. The distinction between the two and how they apply in general to litigation, was very important. At least to me. We all kind of sort of know these things, but reading a concise and very accurate differentiation, is extremely helpful in reviewing cases. He INTENDED to lift her up. He INTENDED to put her over, at least
it appears that way from some videos. Did he intend to drop her? Motive. And to ask that question, makes way more sense to me in determining his criminal guilt or innocence. Even though it’s not required by law. And of which crime. Why would he do that? I have several opinions. May be true. May be false. But pinning down motive would help me in jury deliberations. The entire picture is important. Bc if we miss a piece that is game changer, deal killer, we’ve missed our opportunity to render the correct verdict. The more we know, the better the chances are that the correct verdict is rendered.
That’s why we love to read what MW is describing in his pleadings. Re-enacting the scene. We nit pick everything to death. What’s correct. What’s wrong. What’s possible. What’s impossible. Improbable. We are investigating all angles and leaving no stone overturned in our quest. I think that’s what WS posters do the best. Group effort. Group discussions.
By filing the civil lawsuit, they have put themselves under the microscope of public scrutiny. They are also under the microscope of the RCCL defense team. Almost everything is fair game as long as it can reasonably lead to the discovery of relevant information. How many lawsuits they’ve filed in the past. SA driving records. Employment. Health records of Chloe maybe and SA for sure. Tax returns. It’s a wide and deep search. And behind the scenes, RCCL will be checking South Bend records on the family. I won’t speculate what they will search for, but I guarantee the search will be thorough. It could discover compromising information. Skeletons. Who knows what.
That’s the nature of the beast. Kind of like if you run for a political office. Expect the worst information to be dug up by your opponent.
Hopefully, I’ve explained my position clearly so that you can follow my logic. I can get twisted up by emotions. But it’s important to keep a clear mind. Emotions have little to do with the facts.