Found Deceased IN - Jacqueline Watts, 33, Columbus, 3 March 2017

[margarita25]

(FTR, I'm not liking this one bit. And I think LE is understandably concerned as well, jmo. IMO Jacqueline's case has the potentail to turn out in many different ways. "This is a death investigation." Words from Matt Harris at the PC.

Again we have seen sooooo many crazy coincidences here on WS. If someone can provide a legal source that she was actually seen chasing a stray dog, I might be able to rest better. Even then....idk, I don't like this. Veery woorried. Jmo, moo, imo.

 

[Gunslinging Granny]

Here is a map of Noblitt Park.The sandbar is at the top point on the green area on the map.

 

[margarita25]

Noblitt Park
http://www.columbus.in.gov/parks-recreation/park-info/noblitt-park/

Softball fields, etc.

 

[Rachel1]

How very sad: (

 

[eucalyptuz]

All historic satellite images I can find of the dam/weir show water tumbling over the top except for one. How many inches of flow would be required to topple a body from the upper section near where her car was parked to the lower section with the sandbar in the park? My guess is 4 or 5 inches would probably do it...

 

[KathCurious]

The Nancy Lyons case is eerily similar. Her car was found in Rush County but her body was found in Columbus, IN. This was in the early 2000's.

"Her vehicle, a 1993 red Nissan, was found hours later on CR 700W near CR 500N. At the time the vehicle was discovered, the engine was still running and personal belongings including those Lyons had purchased hours earlier at the local retail outlet were still inside."

http://www.rushvillerepublican.com/...cle_a467cef1-c4f5-54ef-a540-d4548afa4992.html

 

[Coquette]

If she fell in the water north of the dam, she would be pinned to the dam not found by the sandbar. You can walk up to the dam on the south side where she was found. The water is not that warm. But is isn't freezing and it's quite shallow.

That's really helpful, thank you!

 

[margarita25]

FTR, "taunting LE" is often part of "the game". IF it turns out that foul play is suspected, and IF there's a chance it's the same guy as A and L, I would consider this to be clear taunting for a variety of reasons. Since none of this been indicated as of yet, and there's a still a chance LE might rule this an accident (or "inconclusive", which I'm worried about as this seems to be common in "water cases"), I will refrain from going off on this speculative tangent til we hear more.

Eta: Beautiful lady. Thanks for caring about doggies, Jacqueline. I'm sure you helped give many animals happy homes and better lives.

 

[margarita25]

If we did a triangle, Evansdale, Delphi, and Columbus, what does this look like? Just wondering. Again, I'm not going to go off on this tangent extensively, but I have to a least look at it. Just have to.

Eta: Maybe I should just sit this one out til we hear more...

Jacqueline's family is grieving. The last thing they need is this. If there's a connection, or not, we will know soon enough.

 

[margarita25]

The Nancy Lyons case is eerily similar. Her car was found in Rush County but her body was found in Columbus, IN. This was in the early 2000's.

"Her vehicle, a 1993 red Nissan, was found hours later on CR 700W near CR 500N. At the time the vehicle was discovered, the engine was still running and personal belongings including those Lyons had purchased hours earlier at the local retail outlet were still inside."

http://www.rushvillerepublican.com/...cle_a467cef1-c4f5-54ef-a540-d4548afa4992.html

Yikes, does she have a thread here?

 

[Mercedes]

Was trying to help you all understand what happened to Jackie. Since my input is not wanted, and I already know she didn't commit suicide and wasn't murdered, my time here is done. Good luck with your wild theories.

Perhaps you could become a verified insider. Just saying.
I am sorry if she was your friend.

 

[whiskers]

Evansdale. People keep mentioning it. What happened there? TIA.

 

[Krwiley60]

Not to speak for them but I took that to mean how a ton of people on Facebook are referring to that story that one person put out there as gospel and it's all over when you look at any info on Jackie-and someone had posted that story with a screen shot on here and stated when they took it down they were taking down the only factual info on here..which again is just the words of someone on social media. Again, it may be logical and may end up being true, but we don't know that to be factual right now..


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[Gunslinging Granny]

All historic satellite images I can find of the dam/weir show water tumbling over the top except for one. How many inches of flow would be required to topple a body from the upper section near where her car was parked to the lower section with the sandbar in the park? My guess is 4 or 5 inches would probably do it...

If her body was floating it would topple over the dam, but dead bodies, in cold water, don't float in 12 hours. They take weeks to float to the top.

 

[margarita25]

Evansdale. People keep mentioning it. What happened there? TIA.

Elizabeth Collins and Lyric Cook. July 13, 2012, Evansdale, Iowa. Both Murdered. Bodies found at Seven Bridges. Case unsolved.

Thread 1:

Cold Cases IA - Elizabeth Collins, 8, & Lyric Cook, 10, Evansdale, 13 July 2012 - #1
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?178723

(We are currently on thread thirty something.)

 

[MaryG12]

OK


My suspicions as to what that thing my arrow was pointing to in my post with the first map was correct: a cemetery.

Shell's Graveyard



N. of Flatrock Dr.
W. of Washington St.


PRIVATE PROPERTY
Site Status: RELOCATED
A.K.A.: Perry Estates
Deeded as: n/a (never mentioned)
Affiliated Churches: n/a
Time Period for Burials: about 1820-1860
Platted?: No (assumed)
Approx. # of Headstones in Place: 0
Approx. # of Graves: 25
# of Graves Relocated: 8
Relocated to: City Cemetery in 1915
Size: 1.83 ac
Primary Use of this Parcel: golf course
Legal Owner: ?
Parcel ID#: 03-95-13-310-001.900-005
Size: 6.25 ac
Primary Use of this Parcel: residential
Legal Owner: private citizen




Also:


https://secure.in.gov/apps/dnr/shaard/r/43846/N/Shell_map.jpg


https://secure.in.gov/apps/dnr/shaa...D04548B_k3B792C85-7882-E78A-8E5C-7733E6869411


Golf course?


Didn't the police originally cordon off the area just north of this lake/pond/golf course/graveyard?

What if there was some kind of foul play, the wrong person present at the wrong time that J ran into?

What if an unconventional weapon was involved?

Say, a golf club?

MOO

 

[margarita25]

Re post 242

Ugh. Graveyard.

Could be a coincidence. Or not.


I don't think we can even begiiiiiin to speculate about the use of a weapon at all as of yet, not even close. Sorry if f that ones off bad, don't mean it to. I know it's a fine line here, I'm anxious for any lead on BG, but Jacqueline's death has noooot been ruled a homicide.

 

[MaryG12]

Ugh. Graveyard.

Could be a coincidence. Or not.


I don't think we can speculate about a weapon at all as of yet, not even close. Sorry if f that ones off bad, don't mean it to.

Understandable, about any murder weapon. Guess I operate on the theory if a criminal is in a particular area, tries to "blend in" with the immediate environment.

I know what you mean about the graveyard, it does seem kind of creepy being located so close to the river, the lake and 2 lagoons. It took some Googling to find the name of that graveyard. Found one other link with some history about that graveyard:

http://barthgen.org/members-only/BCGS_2012_Q4_Newsletter.pdf

About halfway down, Random Perry.

 

[margarita25]

Until we get mod.

(Manner of death, cod, etc)

 

[Ray_of_hope]

<modsnip>RIP Jacqueline :rose: My thoughts and prayers to her loved ones. The world needs more loving and compassionate people like her

I apologize sillybilly, I know better than that. Twice in one week. Too many senior moments. :blushing: