Found Deceased IN - Jacqueline Watts, 33, Columbus, 3 March 2017

[WebSight]

I do not think she was chasing a dog. The water was to shallow to drown in they are saying too... Therefore although no one at this point wants to believe it because let's face it...It very hard to believe that a loved one has been a victim of a crime...I think that is exactly what happened.

Does anyone know what type of car she was driving? Did her car doors lock automatically when she started to drive?

Did someone get in her car on the passenger side and she jumped out the other door? The motive evidently if it was a crime was not theft it was her...

I absolutely do not think it was an animal....She had just dropped hers off. She was leaving...Someone kind to animals would not want to put them in a shelter. You don't take a stray to your parents or in laws to watch.


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I think we are in agreement about the dog issue except that it was plausible to me only if an injured dog came across her path.

I was listing my questions more as starting points to weigh what and what does not add up. I wonder others on the thread think in addition to your thoughts?

To me, the front passenger door open doesn't mesh with a dog scenario. That only works for me, IMO, if a back door was open or a hatch.


It still is so bizarre though, isn't it? And awful.

 

[Rosewater20]

Well this is all really sad. I just wondered if she was chasing a stray then she could have ran into the wooded area and someone was hiding in that area. I just will be interested in the results of the autopsy. It may have been a tragic accident but it all seems so strange . If my loved one was found like this I would hope they would explore every possibility. Accidents happen but I would want them to be 100 percent sure on this. Hope I am not being disrespectful or speculating too much. I am only going on what has been reported. If I as a resident nearby I certainly would be worried until it has officially been confirmed as an accident.

 

[JeannaT]

I think we are in agreement about the dog issue except that it was plausible to me only if an injured dog came across her path.

I was listing my questions more as starting points to weigh what and what does not add up. I wonder others on the thread think in addition to your thoughts?

To me, the front passenger door open doesn't mesh with a dog scenario. That only works for me, IMO, if a back door was open or a hatch.


It still is so bizarre though, isn't it? And awful.

I'm a dog chaser too, and could see pulling up beside a dog, getting out and opening the passenger door and trying to coax the dog in. The dog doesn't get in but walks off, and off I go to try to catch it.

Very sad story.

 

[WebSight]

I'm a dog chaser too, and could see pulling up beside a dog, getting out and opening the passenger door and trying to coax the dog in. The dog doesn't get in but walks off, and off I go to try to catch it.

Very sad story.

Good, I am glad you responded. But would you open your front passenger door or the back passenger door? See, I just would be jittery about any dog I do not know in the front with me, I have only put a dog in the back. Thoughts?

And yes, just the moment you think they might be coaxed, off they run, and usually across the street, in the opposite direction.

The front door/back door issue is what bothers me, at this point, otherwise I could totally see her stopping for an injured animal.

 

[Gardenista]

That must be the railroad bridge? Thank you for posting the image.


I wonder how many vagrants have traveled that stretch of track by foot?

Yes, if you go to the link, you can see other photos that show the track.

 

[Gardenista]

More info on the bridge I just posted about:

http://1061theriver.com/2016/08/22/railroad-bridge-replacement-will-mean-more-trains/

 

[CatsInTheCradle]

I wish we had a timeline. I would like to know when she was expected home; how much time elapsed from the time she should have been home to when the suspicious car was reported; how long the search was Friday night, etc. Just trying to make ANY sense of this whatsoever. Its just so heartbreaking and I know her family has to be beyond devastated. I feel so bad for all of them, including her doggies and rabbit who will be awaiting her return JMO

 

[WebSight]

I'm new to this case, and I think I've changed my mind about what happened. I went to Google maps and I was surprised to see how far the river is from where she parked. There is no way I would chase a dog on foot that far - I'd run back to my car and drive closer to where the dog went and begin again. The problem with chasing a dog that far is that if you're lucky enough to catch it, you've got a LONG haul back to your car with it.

This is mysterious. Putting on flashers, to me, is something someone who routinely chases after dogs does. It's hard to think someone intent on hurting her would do that.

Yes, very good point about the distance and I concur, any evidence to the contrary withstanding. I would do the same - get back in the car and drive around. I was forgetting how far away she was in the end.

 

[CrimeDawg123]

Yes, very good point about the distance and I concur, any evidence to the contrary withstanding. I would do the same - get back in the car and drive around. I was forgetting how far away she was in the end.

IMO it might not be a long way if she had lived on Flatrock Rd. and was intimately familiar with the area.

 

[JeannaT]

Yes, very good point about the distance and I concur, any evidence to the contrary withstanding. I would do the same - get back in the car and drive around. I was forgetting how far away she was in the end.

When I posted that, I was actually looking at the wrong map. If she got in the river right near her car, could her body have washed up on the sandbar? Does anyone know which way the river flows?

edited to add: I read the entire thread, and it seems likely the river did flow that way.

 

[Gardenista]

Does anyone know how to change the date on google maps so we can see a view of the area in the winter?

 

[CrimeDawg123]

When I posted that, I was actually looking at the wrong map. If she got in the river right near her car, could her body have washed up on the sandbar? Does anyone know which way the river flows?

To the south/southwest.

 

[WebSight]

Did the initial reports say that her car engine was running when they found it?

Answered my own question:

"Her vehicle was located running and the four-way emergency flashers were on the vehicle when our officers located it shortly before 5 p.m.," Harris said.

I cannot imagine a benign scenario where I would leave the car actually running.

 

[Theforeigner]

I did some research and it seems like Jacqueline Watts parents/mother? (or maybe it was her mother-in-law ?) live at 3xx Flatrock Dr, Columbus, IN,
which is right next to the river and only ca 300 meters (0.2 miles) from the corner of Riverside Dr and Flatrock Dr where (as I understand it) Jacqueline's car was found

 

[WideOpen]

I think this could be a tragic accident as simple as she injured herself, was wet and cold, and succumb to hypothermia.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...iver-may-missing-indianapolis-woman/98735796/

Jacqueline Watts was reported missing by her family at 4:30 p.m. Friday, shortly after police found her running car.

I guess what I am wondering is why weren't the police out searching for her during the overnight hours. Seeing she was found so close to her car, she perhaps IMO could have been saved from the sandbar...however she got there.

ETA; IMO, respectively, her dogs probably could have found her if given the chance.

JMO

 

[skibaboo]

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For the record?

But wasn't it said she was coming from her parents house after dropping off her dogs.

Skibs - can you add "where" her parents house is and "where" her car was found? TIA! :wave:

I did put where the car was found, but not her parents house, according to a screenshot a reporter posted on twitter, she marked it on a map where the car was, obvs google maps on a mobile device as it had the little glowing blue dot of where the reporter was at the time lol

I have a few things to do and need to wake up! Crikey its almost 3pm lol (I didn't go to bed until 5:30am, sigh) I can do a proper map if it is needed

 

[JeannaT]

Did the initial reports say that her car engine was running when they found it?

Answered my own question:

"Her vehicle was located running and the four-way emergency flashers were on the vehicle when our officers located it shortly before 5 p.m.," Harris said.

I cannot imagine a benign scenario where I would leave the car actually running.

It's probably not the smartest thing to do, but I've done it. You just think you'll catch the dog right there . . . and then you go further and a little further in pursuit.

 

[Gardenista]

I think this could be a tragic accident as simple as she injured herself, was wet and cold, and succumb to hypothermia.

http://www.indystar.com/story/news/...iver-may-missing-indianapolis-woman/98735796/


I guess what I am wondering is why weren't the police out searching for her during the overnight hours. Seeing she was found so close to her car, she perhaps IMO could have been saved from the sandbar...however she got there.

ETA; IMO, respectively, her dogs probably could have found her if given the chance.

JMO

She sank to the bottom of the river and washed up on the sandbar. There was no saving her

 

[jashrema]

The Nancy Lyons kidnap and murder that was referenced previously...Nancy had come from a WalMart and her car got a flat..her door was open, personal effects left behind...but she had a flat. A killer just "happened" to come across her, offered to help, etc. OR the killer saw her leave her car at the Walmart and intentionally flattened the tire (that seems out of reach because who would know when it would go flat? It could have gone flat and she pulled into a gas station or something) so I have more of a tendency to believe that some random killer just happened to cross paths with her , saw the opportunity, and took it. Killer was never caught sooo...there's that guy still roaming around.

Since we can't link to FB stuff, I think I can say that the "justice for Sierah" page received a post from Jacki's SIL when she went missing because they wanted us to share it. Her SIL stated in her post that the dogs and rabbit HAD BEEN DROPPED OFF already.

So...there's that.

If people are thinking she was attacked, it would make sense that the animals were NOT in the car. i don't think many perps would approach a car to carjack or enter when there were 2 big boxers in it.

I am still of the thought that she did not turn hazards on. The person that found the car and notified police is the one who turned the hazards on.

The only theory about an animal chase that makes sense now is that she was chasing animal, blindly ran into the river, hit her head and became unconscious, then drowned. We know the water wasn't deep enough to drown in if you were conscious, so she had to have been unconscious when she went into the water...correct?

 

[Gardenista]

The Nancy Lyons kidnap and murder that was referenced previously...Nancy had come from a WalMart and her car got a flat..her door was open, personal effects left behind...but she had a flat. A killer just "happened" to come across her, offered to help, etc. OR the killer saw her leave her car at the Walmart and intentionally flattened the tire (that seems out of reach because who would know when it would go flat? It could have gone flat and she pulled into a gas station or something) so I have more of a tendency to believe that some random killer just happened to cross paths with her , saw the opportunity, and took it. Killer was never caught sooo...there's that guy still roaming around.

Since we can't link to FB stuff, I think I can say that the "justice for Sierah" page received a post from Jacki's SIL when she went missing because they wanted us to share it. Her SIL stated in her post that the dogs and rabbit HAD BEEN DROPPED OFF already.

So...there's that.

If people are thinking she was attacked, it would make sense that the animals were NOT in the car. i don't think many perps would approach a car to carjack or enter when there were 2 big boxers in it.

I am still of the thought that she did not turn hazards on. The person that found the car and notified police is the one who turned the hazards on.

The only theory about an animal chase that makes sense now is that she was chasing animal, blindly ran into the river, hit her head and became unconscious, then drowned. We know the water wasn't deep enough to drown in if you were conscious, so she had to have been unconscious when she went into the water...correct?

That's why I want to see a winter version of google maps. I want to see if the banks of the river are rocky and she could have hit her head before falling in.