Lacyanna
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I keep thinking about the phone. Maybe she didn't leave it in the restroom after all. Maybe someone else did.
I wish we could get the timeframe pinned down a little bit better. The reason I asked what time the VFW closed is that someone had said they were closing "early" that night. I thought a local also said that they normally stayed open until 4am and we all remarked about how late that was? Anyway, if Kristy was seen on the first surveillance footage passing by the TF 20 minutes after she was last seen (which I have read was around 1:30am), then 20 minutes after that (per the second surveillance footage...if that was her), which would be around 2:10 am....for sure, the VFW would have been closed. I was just trying to pinpoint whether or not it was closed IF she went back to get her phone. I would really like to know because if they were still open, then why wouldn't she have stopped IF that was her on the video the second time? It seems to me that the timeframe is a little curious. It means that everyone got out of there pretty quick IF the VFW was closed. Also, what about the cleaning guy? Surely he would have been there? Or, was he done for the night too?
I just have a ton of questions. I also still REALLY want to know about the rumor of the "dispute".
Ugh. Where are you Kristy??
Well that's another story - lol! Maybe not as it was during the day though but still the employee/s would need to go at some time. If they're open to 4:00 a.m. normally (can't believe that), what time do they open? Maybe the VFW doesn't open until late afternoon. Do they have a Friday fish fry? Friday could be a busy time at the VFW.
OMG, I'm laughing really hard. I read your grandmother and companion are truly enormous!
Maybe the perp came back to see if anyone was talking about KAnother crew comes in early and opens at 5am.
I do not know of any bars or clubs in Indiana that stay open until 4am. Most close at 2am and dance clubs or rowdier places stay open until 3am. Very rare for anything to be open @ 4am except Waffle House or 24 hour Wal-Mart. JMO
There are a few circumstances nagging at me:
1. Kk was supposed to go out with the bartender after she closed up, but when the bartender came out kk was gone.
2. Kk's cell phone left in the bathroom.
These two events lead me to believe her disappearance happened at the vfw.
I hope they find her, but with all of this talk about stripper pits, I'm starting to think otherwise.
Can LE pull camera footage from other businesses along possible routes to see if her car is spotted further out?
My thought is when a woman has small children, she's even more diligent about keeping her phone handy.
Obviously that's how I think but realize everyone isn't the same.
I dont feel like an abduction took place at the vfw. I feel that her phone was left by mistake. Here's what i think...
She left vfw, headed to the ss, ran into someone she knows or someone she had recently met in the ss parking lot and they talked in the parking lot for awhile (maybe an ex lover? A new love interest), i dont believe it was a stranger. either the person she ran into in the parking lot rode with her somewhere or she left alone and something happened after this. Based on the second footage of her driving I think after leaving the ss parking lot she headed east on walnut which eventually turns into degonia rd.
If she was meeting somone at their place, like driving seperately, and that person lived on the northeast side of town that person could have drove north on third and then turned on an east bound rd. To get home. Wonder if any cameras picked up any vehicles heading north on 3rd st around the time she was caught on video the seond time? If they took seperate routes she would have had to have been familar with where this person live otherwise she would have followed that person.
Or something happened around the ss and the perp was driving her vehicle out of town.
The small duspute still sticks out to me though.
At first i leaned towards she just took off but as times goes on i find myself less set on this being a possiblity.
I'm with you on most of this. I keep coming back to SS bar or the dispute. SS is not the most savory place to be, even early in the evening. I can't imagine what's going on there at 2 am. I know she never made it inside SS, but I just wonder if something happened in the parking lot? The only thing that doesn't work for me with this scenario is that she took off without telling the bartender at VFW she was going ahead without her. The only way her leaving without saying something to the VFW bartender makes sense to me is that she got tired of waiting on the girl to write up deposit slips in the back and decided to go home because it was getting so late and she had to work the next morning. I thought of myself in that situation and if someone was back in the office and I had waited a really long time and was getting super tired, and I was uncomfortable going behind the counter or back to the office to find the person, I might get annoyed and leave.
Or, she was forced to leave, which seems a long shot.
The dispute bothers me. I don't fight with my friends, and if I did it wouldn't be in public. Although I expect a little of this sort of thing from very young people, Kristy is a divorced mother of two who is approaching her 30s. She isn't a teenager. Having a verbal altercation of any sort in public with the friends you are out having a good time with seems really strange to me.
If in fact her car is in one of these lakes/stripper pits (which is what I suspect), I don't know how they are going to locate it unless they get some sonar in here or something to help them narrow it down. So far, I've seen zero indication of them considering that, or even if it is possible, but I might just not be informed on that front.
Weird there is a plane flying low keeps circling a wooded area in N Spencer co
Kristy has a dispute with a friend, leaves her cell phone behind and then disappears. Nope, nothing shady about any of that. :gaah: How can those things NOT be related? There has to be SOMETHING that led to her disappearance. I just can't reconcile the fact that all of that was just normal stuff and then Kristy went missing.
Considering she was the last to leave, it might seem obvious it could have been her phone or someone would have turned it in earlier. Right? Maybe I'm assuming too much about what small town mentality might be like but I imagine these types of situations might be handled more personally considering you'd know your regulars and take better care of them (like so and so needs to know asap they left their phone behind cuz they're probably worried about where they left it type of thing). Am I off base with my assumptions? The VFW being the venue makes me think this way even more.
Lauren Spierer did.
I have a hunch the phone is irrelevant to KK's disappearance except for the possibility that she drove back to the VFW to retrieve it. JMHO.
Weird there is a plane flying low keeps circling a wooded area in N Spencer co