IN - Lauren Spierer, 20, Bloomington, 03 June 2011 - #1

[aproudmom]

I don't think the last male to see her was her boyfriend

No it was not her BF It was the friend who was walking with her to his apartment that night

 

[aproudmom]

Maybe phone records could help with that aspect of it all.
Probably went home but before she got inside she gets a phone call from someone and decides to go see them.
Just one theory why she would get to the building but not go into her apartment.

Of course I'm assuming the video shows her leaving the building voluntarily at 2:40 a.m.

Ven she did not have her phone she left her shoes and cell at Kilroy's the bar she left before heading to her apartment and then on to her friends apartment they did find her keys but think she dropped them on the walk to her friends a purse was found but ended up not being hers

 

[Ven]

There is a map on the left side of this Indianapolis Star article:
http://www.indystar.com/article/201...-reward?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com

From what I can gather, if the reporting is accurate, is that LE doesn't believe the male "friend's" story adds up.

This is just intuitive speculation on my part, but perhaps he told LE that they stopped by at other apartments after 2:40,
but in truth LE has not been able to verify this with any other witnesses?

In the map I provided it says that one of the residences they stopped at has not been identified.
That's why I've posted all of this -- perhaps he told them but they cannot corroborate any of his story.

 

[Ven]

^^Also, that may be why they are so adamant to ask for any of her friends that saw her that night to come forward with information.
Maybe because the friend says one thing, but there are no other people that have said the same.

Just speculation on my part!

 

[Inspector Gidget]

From that same article
Police also have a small purse she used and some keys, both found in an alley that is along the route she walked with her friend after leaving Kilroy's.

Anyone local know anything about the alley they are talking about?
http://www.indystar.com/article/2011...t|IndyStar.com

 

[katydid23]

So here is a young pretty girl who is all alone and so drunk that she left her cell phone and her shoes back in the bar and lost her keys in the street on her walk to her 'friends.'
And she is with one male friend. Something tells me he is not that good of a friend or he would have taken her right to her home and left her with her roommates or called her home for them to get her or walked her out to breakfast and coffee so she could sober up. But they went back alone to his apt. That sounds hinky, imo.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

Yes and the male friend was the last person to see her.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

So how did this play out if her boyfriend was with her earlier and she ended up going to the
male friend's apartment.I wonder if the boyfriend was upset.He called at 4:30 to say she
never made it back.This is a small window of time.
"According to the log, Spierer’s boyfriend reported her missing at about 4:30 p.m. Friday"
http://www.heraldtimesonline.com/stories/2011/06/06/news.404668.sto

So she left the males friend apartment at 4:30 and the boyfriend reported her missing at 4:30.
Yeah something is really wrong here.

 

[blazelet]

4:30am is when she was last seen, the boyfriend called it in at 4:30pm that same say - 12 hours later.

 

[Inspector Gidget]

4:30am is when she was last seen, the boyfriend called it in at 4:30pm that same say - 12 hours later.

Now that sounds better.I was thinking something is not right

 

[ellehill]

Is this when BF called the police (4:30 pm) or when he called one of her girlfriends? I think if I was the BF I would be calling her friends as soon as I woke up to see if they knew where she was.

 

[Whatever1]

I'm interested to know two things...


1. Does the second apartment building have security cameras?


2. Was the last known male she was with a "friend" or a "new acquaintance" from earlier in the evening?

 

[cluciano63]

I keep waiting to hear of an arrest...for some reason I think one is coming. Hope that if it does, the person will lead the police to Lauren.

 

[Kat]

I'm reading here but might have missed posts so please forgive if this is posted here and alert on my post so a Mod can remove. Thank you!

http://www.idsnews.com/news/story.aspx?id=81840 Picture of map from this link.

I just thought it was a great visual for those of us that haven't followed every post.

 

[Whatever1]

sorry is this is a repeat...interesting


Argument between the "male acquaintance" she was with and some other boys

male acquaintance hasn't spoken to her parents

http://www.lohud.com/article/201106...-great-there-foul-play-police-say?odyssey=nav

 

[Inspector Gidget]

I agree they are moving in fast and I think that an arrest will be very soon

 

[Inspector Gidget]

So now we know the male acquaintance, is a student at the university.

 

[cluciano63]

sorry is this is a repeat...interesting


Argument between the "male acquaintance" she was with and some other boys

male acquaintance hasn't spoken to her parents

http://www.lohud.com/article/201106...-great-there-foul-play-police-say?odyssey=nav

OK, so her father told the media about the fight on the tape between her friend and some other males...and he has yet to speak to the male friend, though he has spoken to the others.

And now the purse in the alley is NOT hers again...

 

[Ven]

1. LE shouldn't discount all possibilities, often the worst thing that happens in these cases is they focus on one string of leads that turns out to be a dead end, and since they ignored everything else, they have to start at square one waaaaay too late.

For that reason, they should be looking into the missing purse/keys from the other homicide.
If someone committed a murder a few nights later, and travels to the area Lauren disappeared at and disposes of things there, then there is no reason he couldn't have been in that same area last Friday a.m. and encountered Lauren.

2. All that said, I think it has to come back to the male acquaintance. It seems very fishy that he has not been identified, that usually means he is a suspect. The fact that he says they went to other places but that those places are "not identified" yet, is also very suspicious. If indeed he refuses to talk to the parents, that's also very suspicious.

There is no crime for being the last person to see someone before they disappear, I know if someone is innocent and it happens, it would be very wrong to cast suspicion on someone who was also in the wrong place at the wrong time. But so far it's not all adding up for this character, and because of that I'm suspicious of him.

 

[webrocket]

I am getting a tad confused with the timeline and the number and identities of the males involved.

if I am reading it correctly she was with one guy leaving the bar, they went to her apt bldg, there was an argument between that male and a few other males, they depart the bldg without entering her unit, then walk to a different guys house? did I read that correctly?

then it was this second guy who says he walked her to the corner when she left for the night?

what happened to the first guy? which is the guy who stopped talking or was it the second? forgive me if I'm missing something.

there can be several explanations for why the last guy did not walk her home. maybe he wanted something and she was either too trashed to do or not in the mood for so he said goodbye. also, if she came to his place at some oddball hour of the night, maybe he wanted her out and was in no mood to walk her home. while it has been some time since it last happened to me, there are some people who overstay their welcomes and it is time to say get lost.

I'm not saying these things necessarily happened, but the fact something bad happened to Lauren does not mean that the last two guys had anything to do with it. also, not to sound contrarian, I don't blame some people for getting lawyers. if I was the last person to see someone I'd tell the cops what I know and if that is not satisfactory to them, it is time to get a lawyer as cops frequently want to trip someone up on a timeline, which if these people were partying, might be impossible to reconstruct and hence come across as lying.

for what it is worth, I went to college 25-30 years ago in a very bad area. other than a handful of muggings (Sony Walkmen were popular to steal back then) I do not recall a single student vanishing off campus and this was a dangerous area. perhaps because of the area, students did not walk alone which minimized that sort of risk. even so at this point I am disinclined to assume it was a fellow student who was involved. time may prove me wrong on this.