Inconsistencies/Discrepancies & Timeline discussion

[natsound]

Meredith Viera: Why were there inconsistencies?

Misty Croslin: I don't know.

MV: But you know, you did do that.

MC: Yeah.

MV: And you're not sure why?

MC: No.

Oh boy.

When I saw that snippet, I couldn't believe it. She looked at RC like he was her lawyer. He didn't flinch. Then she kept answering "I don't know". Boy, she is naive. If she's not guilty of anything, she's hurting herself by making comments like that.

 

[raisincharlie]

I'm going to put this here - don't know where it belongs but there are inconsistencies:

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topsto...ce-In-The-Haleigh/1k5Lp9GD2E2M74ZPyUJb7g.cspx


There is a video also - so you can cross reference the quote of Chelsea about talking with Misty versus what she really says in the video. The news article is not a mess up. Ga ga gooo gooo which way is up?



The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said 'Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.' I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van," said Chelsea.

 

[txsvicki]

sorry to disagree with you but IMO Misty's/Ron's age DOES have something to do with the case of this missing child. Everything in, around, beside, nearby, under...etc has to do with this child. Their ages, Misty underage, friends/associates who may do/sell drugs, child *advertiser censored*, theft, petty criminals, people in neighborhood, all family members or all bio/step people in this case must be looked at. If we exclude anyone or any thing as being irrelevant then we may have just ignored a very important clue that lead to the next clue to bring Haleigh home....don't limit, do expand. That is the only way to bring this child home IMHO.

I agree that Misti's age is important to what may have happened. An older woman with her own kids might not have allowed the cousin to even come near the home, might not have an old geezer questionable friend, and probably wouldn't be as influenced by possible pedophiles online looking for young girls with kids. A more mature girl would surely be able to answer questions better and more consistently. All of these things that have went on with Misti have hampered the investigation and taken focus off Haleigh. That is, if some of this isn't the reason for what happened.

 

[SuziQ]

I'm going to put this here - don't know where it belongs but there are inconsistencies:

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topsto...ce-In-The-Haleigh/1k5Lp9GD2E2M74ZPyUJb7g.cspx


There is a video also - so you can cross reference the quote of Chelsea about talking with Misty versus what she really says in the video. The news article is not a mess up. Ga ga gooo gooo which way is up?



The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said 'Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.' I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van," said Chelsea.

I am so confused. Who's van is this?

ETA: I'm going to start a thread for this.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Yeah, I remember that, too. But it still becomes irrelevant since she didn't get her drink, either after she saw the light on.

Oh I find that very relevant. The best place to look for truth is the very beginning of a situation...and that is where it all went haywire. That is not a trivial matter to overlook. If her reasoning was to get up to get a drink and then it changes to "the bathroom"...sorry but there is no reason for that to be changed unless she changed it to make a story "fit". I personally believe she left those children alone...discovered Haleigh missing a lot sooner than 3 am and that is what bothers me the most...her lying (of which I believe she is) is throwing the investigation completely off by her not telling the truth.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

I'm going to put this here - don't know where it belongs but there are inconsistencies:

http://www.cbs47.com/content/topsto...ce-In-The-Haleigh/1k5Lp9GD2E2M74ZPyUJb7g.cspx


There is a video also - so you can cross reference the quote of Chelsea about talking with Misty versus what she really says in the video. The news article is not a mess up. Ga ga gooo gooo which way is up?



The day Haleigh went missing, everyone was looking for her…she (Misty) called me later that night and said 'Chelsea, please tell me you’re the one who put the scratch in my van.' I started crying and told her there’s no way I put the scratch in her van," said Chelsea.

Ok. I read it and re-read it. I'm confused. WHOSE van? Maybe too early for me this morn, but I understand the van belongs to Misty's sister...Chelsea. Correct? So why would Chelsea say that Misty said the above? It's written like the van was Misty's? Am I missing something?

 

[yosande]

I noticed that too. She just stopped being all hysterical..and said.."What?" or was it, "huh?" Anyway, whatever the case may be...she just turned off her hysterical crying switch.

I might not have noticed a "huh?"
What she said was, "Numerical, what's that?"
She went from panic, fear, confusion, to calm, and questioning, then right back to panic, fear and confusion within seconds, like 3. I have Never heard anyone do that before. It makes the panic, fear, and confusion sound like phoney baloney acting.

Also, I don't know how Ron could go from sobbing like a baby on national tv, and threatening homocide to the perp, and having a breakdown, per TN 2 weeks ago, to smiling like the cat who just swallowed a fish out of the fishtank since his engagement/marriage.
Talk about inconsistency, and change. It's mindboggling.
But this is jmoooc.

 

[yosande]

I'm not sure this is exactly the place to post and I admit it does show my ignorance of Florida weather, but if it was 40 degrees that night, why would they have AC repairman in February? People who don't have a stack of money sitting around tend to wait until the last minute to take care of such things.

Again remember I'm in Central Illinois and we were still talking snow.

I asked this same question early in the case. I was told that a/c guys were hard to come by once it got warm so it wasn't unusual to have them come over off season.
Though that might very well be true, I'm gonna guess not so much with a rental. Many mh where I live have central air which is heating and air conditioning in the same unit. I don't know if they have that, but doubt it because they are expensive and not likely to be in a rental. just my opinion only of course.

 

[lakelandladi]

I have rented mh all over florida and they have all had central heat and air. From what was said by a local, Ron's landlord had several rentals that are managed by a company, and that the AC man was doing routine maintenance on all of the landlords properties, so he probably was not out there to do a repair but just the normal routine maintenance that is done on units...or should be done...every year.

 

[tfrohning]

I might not have noticed a "huh?"
What she said was, "Numerical, what's that?"
She went from panic, fear, confusion, to calm, and questioning, then right back to panic, fear and confusion within seconds, like 3. I have Never heard anyone do that before. It makes the panic, fear, and confusion sound like phoney baloney acting.

Also, I don't know how Ron could go from sobbing like a baby on national tv, and threatening homocide to the perp, and having a breakdown, per TN 2 weeks ago, to smiling like the cat who just swallowed a fish out of the fishtank since his engagement/marriage.
Talk about inconsistency, and change. It's mindboggling.
But this is jmoooc.

what is crazy is misty is acting a little cockey , maybe it the new bride thing.
But she not acting right, why to happy

 

[yosande]

ITA, and the same with Ron, imo
Normal if you just got married,
not so normal if your 5 year old child/stepchild just recently vanished without a trace. very weird.

 

[debs]

Oh I find that very relevant. The best place to look for truth is the very beginning of a situation...and that is where it all went haywire. That is not a trivial matter to overlook. If her reasoning was to get up to get a drink and then it changes to "the bathroom"...sorry but there is no reason for that to be changed unless she changed it to make a story "fit". I personally believe she left those children alone...discovered Haleigh missing a lot sooner than 3 am and that is what bothers me the most...her lying (of which I believe she is) is throwing the investigation completely off by her not telling the truth.

Lavanda Dolce, you're quite correct it is relevant in that it establishes that she's changed her story. Once she's changed her story we can assume that those things she said PRIOR can be dismissed. The only thing then that is relevant is that she changed her story, not the tiny details of what she changed it to. Whether she was on her way to the bathroom, or to get a drink of water, or whether she was going to the bathroom to get a drink of water, what hasn't changed is that, once she got up, she saw the light on in the kitchen and she did not complete her task. Does that make sense?

Along with this van issue, I'm starting to get a really bad feeling.

 

[Whisperer]

What is the difference in miles from Chelsea's house to Ron C's place?

 

[Ames]

I might not have noticed a "huh?"
What she said was, "Numerical, what's that?"
She went from panic, fear, confusion, to calm, and questioning, then right back to panic, fear and confusion within seconds, like 3. I have Never heard anyone do that before. It makes the panic, fear, and confusion sound like phoney baloney acting.

Also, I don't know how Ron could go from sobbing like a baby on national tv, and threatening homocide to the perp, and having a breakdown, per TN 2 weeks ago, to smiling like the cat who just swallowed a fish out of the fishtank since his engagement/marriage.
Talk about inconsistency, and change. It's mindboggling.
But this is jmoooc.

Yeah, that's it. I couldn't remember her exact words...guess it would have helped me to go back and look it up, huh? Anyway...I agree with you. I noticed that too...she went from panic, to being calm and saying.."Numerical, what's that?" Like she wasn't expecting that "hard" question.

 

[passionflower]

Inconsistencies used to be called LIES..............IMO

 

[seekjustice]

Whether the master bathroom or the one across the living room, Misty has contended she never used the bathroom at all once she saw the light on in the kitchen.

I'm having a very hard time sifting through this mess but it was my understanding per Ron on NG that they always slept with the master bedroom door open from which the kitchen light was viewable. I took this to mean the light was not on until Misty came back from...1. bathroom 2. getting drink?? However if Misty never actually accomplished her mission, when exactly did she notice the light on? It would be my understanding the light would have been noticed immedeately upon awkening without even leaving the bedroom.

What on earth are the odds that someone broke into a locked back door at the exact time Misty happens to awaken to use the restroom and is able to sneak Haleigh out before Misty can return??

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Inconsistencies used to be called LIES..............IMO

inconsistencies = :liar:
Yeah. I think it's the "new" political correct way of saying things. A sort of liberal statement to go along with the liberal media. OOOPS. Did I say that? Sorry.:silenced:

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

Lavanda Dolce, you're quite correct it is relevant in that it establishes that she's changed her story. Once she's changed her story we can assume that those things she said PRIOR can be dismissed. The only thing then that is relevant is that she changed her story, not the tiny details of what she changed it to. Whether she was on her way to the bathroom, or to get a drink of water, or whether she was going to the bathroom to get a drink of water, what hasn't changed is that, once she got up, she saw the light on in the kitchen and she did not complete her task. Does that make sense?

Along with this van issue, I'm starting to get a really bad feeling.

Again, I'm really in firm belief that these "inconsistencies" are very important. And those details are telling. It goes to show she was not stating facts as they were, or that she was making up a story, as you agreed. However, the "I never went to the bathroom" also makes me curious as to WHY she said that. Was it to just add embellishment to her story? Or did something occur in THAT bathroom that has relevance? Remember...if the doors were locked, as they said, what happened started IN the house. No signs of a break in was present. Was a bathroom window open and she closed it and "I never went to the bathroom" was to cover up a dumb mistake? See this is why those details are indeed relevant. This may not have a hill of beans to do with what actually occured...but it is reasons as to why every inconsistencie may have a purpose. It could be something as explainable as stressed and not thinking, etc. but it could also be something as serioius as "she knows more than what she is telling". That's what makes all inconsistencies relevant.

 

[Lavanda Dolce]

My thoughts:

1. If it was 3:00 am and she was truly on her way to the bathroom and she saw the glow of the kitchen light and it startled her enough to go look....WHY? That would have been close enough to the time that Ronald got home from work. Why did she assume immediately something was wrong, in a groggy state of mind from waking up....because you all know when one wakes up from deep sleep to go to the bathroom...or get a drink of water...whatever...one is still groggy.

2. When she woke up to go to the bathroom, wouldn't it make sense if she were sleeping in the same bed as children her first instinct was to look at the children as she quietly got up to go to the bathroom so as to not wake them? Did she not notice right away that Haliegh was not in the bed? Sometimes kids get 'lost in the covers" so wouldn't instinct have told her if anything was questionable to reach out and pat the bundle?

3. But more importantly.......WHY all the blabber about blankets washed, etc.?? What relevance does that have? Seems to me she wasn't the type to be so concerned about the children and their blankets when the gross pillow didn't even have a pillow case on it. ya know? Do you recall AT THE ONSET she stated "I even washed the blanket on the window"? What was that about? Was a blanket on a window instead of curtains? So why at the spur of the moment...in the eve...would she have put kids to bed and grab a "curtain blanket" and washed it too? Something not right there.

4. What possessed her to become high alert and then to go towards that light? It could have been Ronald in the kitchen for all she knew coming in from work. Seems to me the bathroom is what woke her...is where she would have went first....when people lie...they give TOO much information. Her statement of "I woke up to go to the bathroom, saw the light, saw the door, and never went to the bathroom"....is what totally snagged me at the onset. It was NOT necessary to add the "I never went to the bathroom" part.

She embellished enough words in her statements about the events in that evening , in my opinion...to make a lie believable. Enough so that the investigators agree with her "inconsistencies" as being important enough that they keep bringing her back in.

 

[radio]

This Cummings family has me like so fried on their stories.
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