Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023 #7

[Charlot123]

Were these terrorists home grown? Is dad still alive and teaching his grandchildren the same values he taught his son?

Not the father, the mother called the terrorist “my hero”.

And I looked up captagon. Captagon: the drug fuelling the Gulf party scene - and Syria's finances

In short, it would be like a mixture of amphetamines and coffee.

And now imagine these jihadists on captagon. The land of Gaza is not poor, on the photos they are tall and strong, these jihadists…

 

[BayouBelle_LA]

It's what I've been saying all along ... these young adults, who enjoy violently brutalizing others, are a product of their society, their education and their government's goals. We have proof not only in documentation about the Gaza curriculum, but in the messages from terrorists to their parents. Those parents are proud of their murderous children. Gaza is a society that produced an Hamas army of brutal murderers for the Hamas government.

Sure, there are young children who are not yet fully indoctrinated with goals to murder people who have different beliefs and values. There are some people who perhaps want nothing to do with it, but there are enough people who proudly raised their sons to decapitate, mutilate and violate in genocidal war making October 7 a reality.

That’s one of the reasons why it’s so hard to eradicate terrorism. The next generation has already been created.

Somebody linked a video (don’t rememer who) in one of the previous threads. The video shows someone interviewing grade school children. They want to “run over Jews and stab them with a knife”. One little boy wants to be a jihadist. It doesn’t give much hope for the near future. imo

 

[Momoffourboys]

DEFCON (Defence Readiness Condition)

Has been around for decades as a military system of determining the state of readiness military forces are "currently" subject to based on monitoring of situations developing or developed in the world forum for Nuclear War etc. Based on a number of monitoring factors that intelligence gathers, the DEFCON Level will be raised or lowered etc to put us on alert for threat response as required - our weapons state and NTM (hours Notice to Move) etc.

Many of the Governmental Travel Advisories and Terror Alert Levels that you see in public are actually derived from the same intelligence monitoring that feeds the DEFCON system.

Nice to see it (the level) being tracked on an OSINT forum these days. The highest we (NATO) ever got was DEFCON 4 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The higher the number (1-5), the higher the threat level.

Here's a great video that explains it:

Thank you @Vern for your invaluable expertise. I have learned so much from you and thankful to have you in this vile thread.

 

[Charlot123]

Live updates: Israel-Hamas war rages as Gaza hospitals warn of "humanitarian catastrophe" (cnn.com)
24 min ago

Thai death toll rises to 30 in Israel attacks​

The number of Thai nationals killed in Israel following Hamas' October 7 attack has risen to 30, Thailand's Foreign Ministry said on Sunday.

Thailand, which for decades has made up one of the biggest sources of migrant labor in Israel, has suffered one of the highest tolls of any nation beyond Israel itself.

A total of 18 Thais have been injured in Israel, while 19 Thai nationals are believed to have been taken hostage by Hamas, the ministry said.

I feel very sorry for Thailand, these are their poor, hard-working people who came to Israel to make some money. And Nepal, too, lost some of its own. Very sad, may ther rest in peace.

 

[Brightchaser47]

Israel-Hamas war live updates: Aid heads into Gaza; Israel steps up airstrikes (nbcnews.com)
2m ago / 6:54 AM PDT

An underground labyrinth: challenges await troops in Hamas tunnels​

A possible ground offensive or hostage rescue in Gaza will present unique challenges because of Hamas’ extensive underground warren of tunnels.

Military experts warn that the system could be a soldier’s nightmare and caution against sending personnel inside the stuffy, narrow passages, which are low on oxygen but full of twists and turns. Many of the high-tech advantages Israel enjoys above ground disappear when soldiers go underground.

Regular night vision goggles don’t work, communication among the IDF tunnel combatants is highly limited, and soldiers must bring their own oxygen supplies, respirators and chemical protective masks.

“It’s like being underwater,” said retired U.S. Army Lt. Gen. Mark Schwartz, who ran U.S. security coordination in Israel and the Palestinian Authority from 2019 through 2021.

Read the full story here.

I had wondered about the oxygen bit. That's one reason I've questioned the idea that Hamas is actually holding hostages in the tunnels. Logistically, it would be difficult, imo.

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716519118088913070

 

[Arkay]

WARNING: GRAPHIC DESCRIPTIONS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716515037173481775

It’s important to know the facts.

I applaud these journalists who had the courage to see for themselves, no matter how revolting the truth is.

IMO it is extremely discouraging that civilians in Gaza rejoiced. In the Arab world, it is a grave insult to have a shoe or foot on you, even facing you, so trampling on the dead Israelis was the ultimate insult.
(Remember when an Arab journalist threw a shoe at President George w. Bush).

I want to have sympathy for civilians in Gaza, but IMO they make that difficult. It was both a victorious slaughter and a treasure chest for them. At least the ones we are hearing about.

Arab culture: the insult of the shoe

Showing the sole of your shoe has long been an insult in Arab culture.

www.telegraph.co.uk

https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/06/world/meast/shoe-throwing-significance/index.html#:~:text=“Traditionally%2C%20it%20was%20also%20offensive,throwing%20dirt%20on%20that%20person.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I feel very sorry for Thailand, these are their poor, hard-working people who came to Israel to make some money. And Nepal, too, lost some of its own. Very sad, may ther rest in peace.

So sad. I read a story last night about a Philippine caretaker for an elderly man at a kibbutz who gathered 30 of the elderly and cared for them in a shelter. She saved their lives. She said she was so worried that she would be killed and they would be left there to die. IMO

 

[whitelilac]

Hamas’s al-Qassam Brigades has released two captives from Gaza after Qatari and Egyptian mediation, spokesman Abu Obaida has said.

The two captives are Nurit Yitzhak and Yocheved Levschitz, a statement on al-QassamBrigades’ telegram said.

These are the same two captives that the group tried to release since Friday, but Israel had refused to take them, he said.

“We decided to release them for humanitarian and medical reasons.”

Israel-Hamas war updates: Hamas releases two captives as Israel pounds Gaza

Hamas armed wing says it released captives for ‘humanitarian and medical reasons’ as Israeli bombardment intensifies.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[Charlot123]

From Israeli news channel: HAMAS plans to release 50 hostages with dual citizenship

i24NEWS

www.i24news.tv

And this is how taking hostages was planned

i24NEWS

www.i24news.tv

“The terrorists disclosed that in Gaza, anyone who brought a hostage was promised a grant, which included an apartment and a sum of $10,000”

 

[sds71]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716519774560076218

 

[Vern]

I expect several investigations will ensue after this. MOO

But, in the past, complaints were lodged against Israel for this same thing -- and eventually, Israel was cleared of wrongdoing for those very reasons.

At least in the cases I've read about. Of course, there could be some I'm not aware of.

There will be a BOI (Board of Inquiry) by the UN and investigations for sure.

There's certainly a factual history of terrorists reapeatedly using UNRWA Schools etc for storage and launching activites to say the least:

Warning: The link immediately below also shows photos of children at UNRWA school 'exercising' (simulating/practicing how to) the kidnapping of Israeli Soldier:

https://embassies.gov.il/MFA/Hasbara/Pages/Hamas-uses-Gaza-schools-for-military-terrorist-purposes.aspx

Watch: Hamas tunnels, weapons near school, Pepsi factory

IDF releases documentation showing Hamas military assets such as tunnels, weapons facilities embedded in civilian areas.

www.israelnationalnews.com

The UN Reports from earlier incidents:

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-strongly-condemns-placement-rockets-school

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/unrwa-condemns-placement-rockets-second-time-one-its-schools

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/official-statements/statement-about-discovery-military-items-unrwa-school-gaza

https://www.unrwa.org/newsroom/press-releases/cache-rockets-found-un-school-gaza

Pavlich: Throwing good money to Iranian terrorism

In 2014, during Operation Protective Edge, the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) officially admitted rockets were found, again, in one of their internationally funded schools in the Ga…

thehill.com

I guess the real issue is, how does this keep happening? To repeatedly use UNRWA Schools, Mosques etc for storing/hiding munitions and weapons for use by terrorists must at some point have complicity by at least oe person working in/having unimpeded acces to areas those buildings.

Hamas does not care about Palestinian civilians nor about casulties amongst them.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Hamas’s al-Qassam Brigades has released two captives from Gaza after Qatari and Egyptian mediation, spokesman Abu Obaida has said.

The two captives are Nurit Yitzhak and Yocheved Levschitz, a statement on al-QassamBrigades’ telegram said.

These are the same two captives that the group tried to release since Friday, but Israel had refused to take them, he said.

“We decided to release them for humanitarian and medical reasons.”

Israel-Hamas war updates: Hamas releases two captives as Israel pounds Gaza

Hamas armed wing says it released captives for ‘humanitarian and medical reasons’ as Israeli bombardment intensifies.

www.aljazeera.com

Such humanitarians. Nobel peace prize candidates. IMO

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716521713381343710

 

[Vern]

Seeing posts on the booby traps being found that were set up & left by terrorists in Israel. Suspect many more await the ground troops who will enter into Gaza.

Setting up and placing Booby Traps is also a War Crime.

Bosnia was full of them (and land mines). Frequently "found" by innocent & curious children & civilians because "soldiers know better than to touch without 'investigating'". Ughhhhh.

 

[Mo Thuairim]

‘Like a terrible dream’: tense wait for Israeli soldiers near Gaza border​

More than 350,000 reservists have joined the forces massed in southern Israel and awaiting orders

(...)

Anat and Nurit (not their real names) were far away at the time of the attack: Anat was on a trip to Bali, which she had hoped would help her decide what to do with her life. Nurit was in Perth, Australia, visiting friends and relatives. They watched the news on television and quickly realised this was not business as usual, one of the periodic periods of hostilities they had experienced when they did their national service six years ago.

“At first, I thought I would just stay in Australia, but then it was clear there was no way I could,” Nurit said. Both women are in their mid-20s and had friends who had been at the Supernova music festival where 260 young people were gunned down. Some had survived. The body of another has only recently been found.

“It is real and immediate for us. These were people we knew,” Anat said. Her mother is from Bolton and became an Israeli after coming to work on a kibbutz and marrying a local. Anat returned from Bali last week in a plane sent specially to gather Israel’s young diaspora, which flew back full of reservists.

Anat and Nurit are now in military fatigues, eating lunch in the cafe at a petrol station, with assault rifles on their laps. They are part of a military intelligence unit, and underneath the uniforms they are still wearing the summer clothes they packed for their holidays.

“I still wake up and the shock is new again, that all this has happened. It feels like a terrible dream, and then I remember each morning that it’s real,” Nurit said.

They said their moods swung widely from despair to feeling that something positive will come out of this war, and back to despair again. At a neighbouring table, another young Israeli woman in military fatigues, about the same age, was weeping with her head in her hands, the tears dripping through her fingers.

The soldiers here have no idea when the order to attack will come.

“It is a rollercoaster,” Anat said. “Sometimes everything is tense and we are on alert, and then it relaxes again.”

(...)

‘Like a terrible dream’: tense wait for Israeli soldiers near Gaza border

More than 350,000 reservists have joined the forces massed in southern Israel and awaiting orders

www.theguardian.com

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716523529045237838

 

[Friday Fan]

DEFCON (Defence Readiness Condition)

Has been around for decades as a military system of determining the state of readiness military forces are "currently" subject to based on monitoring of situations developing or developed in the world forum for Nuclear War etc. Based on a number of monitoring factors that intelligence gathers, the DEFCON Level will be raised or lowered etc to put us on alert for threat response as required - our weapons state and NTM (hours Notice to Move) etc.

Many of the Governmental Travel Advisories and Terror Alert Levels that you see in public are actually derived from the same intelligence monitoring that feeds the DEFCON system.

Nice to see it (the level) being tracked on an OSINT forum these days. The highest we (NATO) ever got was DEFCON 4 during the Cuban Missile Crisis. The higher the number (1-5), the higher the threat level.

Here's a great video that explains it:

Thanks.
Thought it had been around longer than 10 years. There are alot of defense related acronyms out there!

 

[Momoffourboys]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1716519253967536451

 

[arielilane]

This one minute video is from Oct. 17, 2023. Posting for those who may not have seen it.


Amir Tibon and his wife and two very young daughters waited 10 hours for someone to rescue them as Hamas fired into their home. His father, a retired general is the one who finally did

https://twitter.com/x/status/1714151609448509594