Israel - Palestinian militants launch massive attack, 7 Oct 2023

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US says it always urges Israel to avoid civilian casualties​

One more question and answer from the news briefing that the US Department of Defense has been holding at the Pentagon near Washington DC.

A senior official said the top priority of the US is to "contain the conflict and support the defence of Israel".

She said the US government is monitoring groups across the Middle East for anyone who "would consider joining or piling onto this conflict in a way that escalates it".

She then asnwered the BBC's Barbara Plett-Usher's question: "We all know that a lot of Palestinians will die... where will the US draw the line?"

"We are always urging our Israeli partners - all our partners - to avoid civilian casualties. I would note here that's absolutely something that Hamas did not do."

Biden confirms 11 Americans killed​

US President Joe Biden has confirmed at least 11 Americans have been killed in the Israel-Hamas conflict.

"Sadly, we now know that at least 11 American citizens were among those killed — many of whom made a second home in Israel," he said in a written statement from the White House.

US has 'no comment' on alleged Hamas meeting​

A senior US defence official says they would "not comment on intelligence matters today" after a question from Fox News reporter Jennifer Griffin about an alleged meeting between Hamas and Lebanese Islamist group Hezbollah that was reportedly brokered by Iran.

A report in the Wall Street Journal newspaper says that Iran played a key role in helping Hamas prepare for its surprise attack.

The newspaper said talks in Beirut began in August and included members of the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corp.

The US has not specified what role Iran may have had. "Iran is in the picture here," the unnamed official said.

"We've been clear for years in Iran's role in fomenting instability across the region," the official added.

Pentagon confident it can provide support to Israel and Ukraine​

The US defense department would not go into specifics about the type of weaponry and defence support it is sending Israel.

But a senior defense official said on background on Monday they are "working to assess what munitions are in the US inventory that can be made quickly available to Israel".
She said that aircraft had already taken off with munitions and added that the Pentagon is in constant contact with counterparts in Israel.

When asked if the US is worried they have used up ammunition supporting Ukraine, the official said they are able to support the armed forces there as well as Israel.

US warns those looking to bring instability to the region
The US Defense Department is sending a firm message that it is "supporting Israel's defence" in this conflict.

A senior official said on background that adversaries looking to take advantage of instability in the region should "think twice" before stepping in.

The warships the US has deployed to the eastern Mediterranean - the USS Gerald R Ford strike group - are there to conduct a "full spectrum" of maritime operations, the official said.

Part of their mission is to "minimize risk to widespread conflict".

It comes amid concerns that Iran or other regional groups opposed to Israel such as Hezbollah in Lebanon may join in the conflict.

US calls Hamas attack 'Isis-level savagery'​

The US Department of Defense has been holding a news conference on the Israel-Hamas conflict.

A senior defence official said: "I want to differentiate this from other times we have seen between Israel and Hamas", calling it "Isis-level savagery" - referring to the actions of the so-called Islamic State group of militants.

The official said it was an “unprecedented attack on Israel” with houses burned to the ground and young people massacred at a music festival.

 

UK PM: People who support Hamas are fully responsible for this attack​


[…] Prime Minister Rishi Sunak has been speaking on Monday evening at a synagogue in London.

"The people who support Hamas are fully responsible for this appalling attack. They are not freedom fighters, they are terrorists," he said.

"There is no question of balance, I stand with Israel."

Sunak added that he will "stop at nothing" to keep the Jewish community in the UK safe.

 

Pentagon briefing: US warships and munitions en route to Israel​

A senior US defence official has been giving an update on the developing situation in Israel. Here are some of the key takeaways that were talked about.
  • They called the Hamas attack "Isis-level savagery", referencing homes burned to the ground and young people massacred at a music festival
  • The US is confident it can support both Ukraine and Israel with weapons
  • Aircraft are headed to Israel with munitions, but the US official did not specify the type of weaponry
  • The USS Gerald R Ford strike group has been deployed to the eastern Mediterranean
  • When asked by a reporter if the US is concerned Israel will kill Palestinian civilians with American weapons, the official said Washington holds Israel to the same standard all partners are held to - which is to avoid civilian casualties
  • The official did not confirm or deny if Hezbollah and Hamas had met in Iran prior to the attack. However the official did say Iran had been "fomenting instability across the region"
 
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Turkey ready to act as mediator, says Erdoğan​

Turkey is ready to act as a mediator between Israeli and Palestinian authorities if the two parties make such a proposition, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said.

Speaking during a press conference after a cabinet meeting in Ankara, Erdoğan said Turkey was making necessary preparations to send humanitarian aid to Gaza, Reuters reported.

He urged Israel to stop bombing Palestinian lands and Palestine to stop harassing Israeli civilian settlements, adding:

We believe that there will be no peace in the region without an independent, sovereign Palestine.
Erdoğan’s remarks came after he held calls with the Palestinian president, Mahmoud Abbas, and the Israeli president, Isaac Herzog.

The Turkish leader told Abbas that Ankara “is making every effort to end the conflicts in the region and ensure calm as soon as possible,” a statement from his press office said, AP reported.

In his call with Herzog, Erdoğan “emphasised that any step that could harm the people of Gaza collectively and indiscriminately will further increase the suffering and spiral of violence in the region,” the presidential office statement said.

Erdoğan also told his Israeli counterpart that it was “necessary to act with common sense and that establishing tranquility in the region as soon as possible is of great importance for the wellbeing of the entire region”, according to the statement.

 
Conditions in Gaza were horrible before this attack... Hamas made them even worse along with torturing/killing innocent Israelis. Even the pro-Hamas protesters don't "get it".
Me thinks those pro-Hamas protesters are "missing something".

This act of terrorism is not going to help anything.
It's only gonna make things worse.
 
This from jan 2022

8 Hamas, 'Islamic Jihad' Leaders Leave Gaza to Live Abroad


Others on the list include Salah al-Bardawil, a senior member of the group who obtained permission to leave Gaza with his family for one year; Hamas' spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri and veteran diplomatic advisor and Haniyeh’s personal deputy Taher al-Nunu.

Doha is not the only destination, with Turkey becoming the new home of Hamas top figure Fathi Hamad.



Not sure about now.

Eta i personally don’t trust erdogan.
 
There is only one real reason why there is no peace in Israel/Palestine IMO.
It's because the majority on both sides don't actually want what any normal civilised person would describe as "peace." Their idea of "peace" is genociding the other out of existence.

If they wanted peace, they would pursue a Northern Ireland-style settlement involving things like power sharing, dual citizenship and amnesty for political prisoners. Instead they choose hatred and endless conflict and it's all OK so long as they can claim the other side is worse.
 
There is only one real reason why there is no peace in Israel/Palestine IMO.
It's because the majority on both sides don't actually want what any normal civilised person would describe as "peace." Their idea of "peace" is genociding the other out of existence.

If they wanted peace, they would pursue a Northern Ireland-style settlement involving things like power sharing, dual citizenship and amnesty for political prisoners. Instead they choose hatred and endless conflict and it's all OK so long as they can claim the other side is worse.
IMO you are only half right.
 
This from jan 2022

8 Hamas, 'Islamic Jihad' Leaders Leave Gaza to Live Abroad


Others on the list include Salah al-Bardawil, a senior member of the group who obtained permission to leave Gaza with his family for one year; Hamas' spokesperson Sami Abu Zuhri and veteran diplomatic advisor and Haniyeh’s personal deputy Taher al-Nunu.

Doha is not the only destination, with Turkey becoming the new home of Hamas top figure Fathi Hamad.



Not sure about now.

Eta i personally don’t trust erdogan.

I don’t trust Erdogan either.
 
2 million people live in Gaza. It floors me how the cutting off of food, water, and electricity to 2 million--the vast, vast majority being civilians--is glossed over and accepted in the discourse on this conflict.
Let’s be real - there have been major issues there for years and decades with living conditions for everyone there as it is. :(
 
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