GUILTY Italy - Costa Concordia Cruise Ship runs aground/flips, 2012

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162...ruise-ship-missing/?tag=cbsnewsMainColumnArea


CBS News) MINNEAPOLIS, Minn. - A couple from White Bear Lake, Minn. is among those missing from the Costa Concordia cruise ship that crashed and tipped over off the Italian coast, according to family members.


Thanks for the link, some great photos there.

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Wouldn't it at least be a large jolt to anyone who wasn't on the upper decks?

yes, my best friend encountered a small iceberg in Alaska waters.
She and DH were knocked out of bed and onto the floor.
Everything was tossed around the room.
They had window rooms.
 
In this new article, they say that the boat deliberately went close to the island... so they could send a greeting to the villagers:


so-- 8 (?) people lost their lives, many others injured/traumatized, loss of a $300-$400 million dollar ship, thousands of passengers and crew lost their belongings plus rescue and recovery costs... JUST TO SAY HI???!!!


:banghead:
 
From the Daily News link above some explanation of how the ship is built and info on what happened:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ns-trapped-wreckage-capsized-cruise-ship.html

By Polly Dunbar - excerpts

However, as an industry, cruising has a safety record generally regarded as excellent. Over the past two decades, an estimated 90 million passengers have enjoyed a cruise without major incident. The overwhelming majority of deaths on cruise ships are from natual causes or suicides.

Although cruise ships appear to be top heavy, most of their weight is at the bottom, while the structure towards the top is designed to be comparatively lightweight.

According to Malcolm Latarche, editor of the global shipping magazine IHS Fairplay Solutions, the 950-ft Costa Concordia, which was built in 2005, was designed to standards comparable with ocean liners.

‘The Concordia was capable of travelling across the Atlantic, or anywhere in the world. It was considerably smaller than the Queen Mary II, but it was built to the same standards,’ he said.
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Mr Latarche believes the Concordia disaster may have been triggered by an electrical fault, which caused a loss of power in the ship and led it to crash into rocks.

‘Although the damage caused to the ship was severe, there are many safeguards in the design of a state of the art cruise ship to prevent it turning over. There is a second hull within the outer hull. Inside the inner hull there is a steel structure like an ice tray to contain the water and prevent it spreading through the ship.

‘In this case, the master rightly attempted to return it to the shore, but it seems to have keeled over because it hit shallow water on the coast. An ocean cruise ship is not designed to float in 20ft of water. It needs much more than that to remain upright.’


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From the Daily News link above some explanation of how the ship is built and info on what happened:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ns-trapped-wreckage-capsized-cruise-ship.html

By Polly Dunbar - excerpts

However, as an industry, cruising has a safety record generally regarded as excellent. Over the past two decades, an estimated 90 million passengers have enjoyed a cruise without major incident. The overwhelming majority of deaths on cruise ships are from natual causes or suicides.

Although cruise ships appear to be top heavy, most of their weight is at the bottom, while the structure towards the top is designed to be comparatively lightweight.

According to Malcolm Latarche, editor of the global shipping magazine IHS Fairplay Solutions, the 950-ft Costa Concordia, which was built in 2005, was designed to standards comparable with ocean liners.

‘The Concordia was capable of travelling across the Atlantic, or anywhere in the world. It was considerably smaller than the Queen Mary II, but it was built to the same standards,’ he said.
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Mr Latarche believes the Concordia disaster may have been triggered by an electrical fault, which caused a loss of power in the ship and led it to crash into rocks.

‘Although the damage caused to the ship was severe, there are many safeguards in the design of a state of the art cruise ship to prevent it turning over. There is a second hull within the outer hull. Inside the inner hull there is a steel structure like an ice tray to contain the water and prevent it spreading through the ship.

‘In this case, the master rightly attempted to return it to the shore, but it seems to have keeled over because it hit shallow water on the coast. An ocean cruise ship is not designed to float in 20ft of water. It needs much more than that to remain upright.’


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Wasn't the Titanic of the same double walled design? Wasn't that double wall why the Titanic was called "unsinkable?"
 
Cruise captain's conduct blasted as death toll rises; 'showing off' before crash'


"Maritime authorities, passengers and mounting evidence pointed Sunday toward the captain of a cruise liner that ran aground and capsized off the Tuscan coast, amid accusations that he abandoned ship before everyone was safely evacuated and was showing off when he steered the vessel far too close to shore."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/intern...stricken_vfsY3b8gtXFDXDs8tGRDAJ#ixzz1javFD7O4
 
This guy (the captain) sounds like a real piece of work.....


"Meanwhile, attention focused on the captain, who was spotted by Coast Guard officials and passengers fleeing the scene even as the chaotic and terrifying evacuation was under way."


"A French couple who boarded the Concordia in Marseille, Ophelie Gondelle and David Du Pays, told the Associated Press they saw the captain in a lifeboat, covered by a blanket, well before all the passengers were off the ship."



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/intern...stricken_vfsY3b8gtXFDXDs8tGRDAJ#ixzz1javgJhtw
 
"Maritime authorities, passengers and mounting evidence pointed Sunday toward the captain of a cruise liner that ran aground and capsized off the Tuscan coast, amid accusations that he abandoned ship before everyone was safely evacuated and was showing off when he steered the vessel far too close to shore."

This guy (the captain) sounds like a real piece of work.....

"A French couple who boarded the Concordia in Marseille, Ophelie Gondelle and David Du Pays, told the Associated Press they saw the captain in a lifeboat, covered by a blanket, well before all the passengers were off the ship."


it's a shame he didn't have any of captain sully's professionalism, courage and integrity!!
 
from redheadedgal, snipped for brevity:

it's a shame he didn't have any of captain sully's professionalism, courage and integrity!!

Just what we were talking about here at my home not 15 minutes ago. :-/

What kind of 'testing' do Captains undergo for emotional stability, lack of ego (sorry), and the like?

Human Error is likely the cause of this entire tragic event, imo...and it rests squarely on the shoulders of the Captain.
 
Was the Captain showing off? Disturbing claim that cruise ship sailed close to rocks to salute a fellow officer on shore
Francesco Schettino arrested on suspicion of multiple manslaughter and abandoning ship
Survivors vent fury over fleeing 'Captain Coward'
Women and children were barged out of way by crewmen during 'Titanic-like' escape
Six confirmed dead: Latest victim found wearing life vest on second deck in submerged part of ship
35 Britons on board reported safe and well
More than 60 people injured
Rescue divers continue to search submerged parts of ship before bad weather sinks it fully
Reports Schettino was dining with passengers when the accident happened


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...glio-salute-fellow-officer.html#ixzz1jbdTFtxI

(Thanks to wfgodot for the reference to the DM which has, imo, been the best source for updates and photos on this tragic event.)
 
Compare the captain of the cruise ship Costa Concordia, who some passengers have named (rightly or wrongly) "Captain Coward", to the behavior of Captain Carlsen of the Flying Enterprise:

Meanwhile, the Danish ship captain, Henrik Kurt Carlsen, stayed behind to assist in salvage efforts. More than 400 newspaper and radio reporters from 12 countries rushed to cover the story. It was, indeed, a compelling one - a single man alone on a ship with a list so great, it was impossible to stand on any deck. The only ocean-going tug capable of towing the ship was days away. As reporters watched from planes and nearby ships, every word of Carlsen's radio messages was captured, every event analyzed. Asked for a statement, Carlsen said "The thought of those toward whom I have responsibilities and of my loved ones keeps me going." When an attempt to get him food failed, to avoid risking the lives of his rescuers, Carlsen asked that further efforts wait until clearer weather. His unselfish attitude endeared him even more to people, and they couldn't read or hear enough about his plight.
http://www.opentheword.org/index.ph...lson&catid=144:e-gregory-blacklock&Itemid=317

I wonder when honor, duty, and integrity died.

My opinion only
 
I'm confused. How did the captain steer the ship too close to shore when he was reportedly dining with passengers at the time the accident occurred? Was it another crew member who wanted to show off and salute a friend on shore?

Nonetheless, the captain and crew should have stayed on board to help all passengers to safety.
 
Thanks for the overnight posts and updates. It will be interesting to see how Costa (Carnival Corporation) handles the fallout from this tragedy that could have been avoided. There is very picky, sticky wording in passenger contracts that severely limits the responsibility of the cruise line in the event of an incident such as this, although I feel certain that Costa/Carnival Corporate will extend a helping hand to these passengers. jmo

I'll try to find a passenger contract, but in the meantime WSleuthers might enjoy this website: http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2010/0...ise-line-a-year-late-and-in-wrong-courthouse/

Latest update on Comcast homepage:

http://xfinity.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20120114/EU.Italy.Cruise.Aground/?cid=hero_media
 
"Foschi said his company, which is owned by the world’s largest cruiseline, Carnival Corp., stood by the captain, Francesco Schettino, and would provide him with legal assistance. But he said the company disassociated itself from his behavior. "

"Costa ships have their routes programmed, and alarms go off when they deviate, the chief executive said in a press conference. "

“This route was put in correctly. The fact that it left from this course is due solely to a maneuver by the commander that was unapproved, unauthorized and unknown to Costa,” he said.

Residents of Giglio said they had never seen the Costa come so close to the dangerous “Le Scole” reef area."



Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/intern..._company_eCLJftFiH3iKOhAuqbn6oO#ixzz1jdF5cvp3
 
"Monique Maurek, 41, from the Netherlands, said: 'What scandalised me most was when I saw the captain spending much of the evening before we hit the rocks drinking in the bar with a beautiful woman on his arm."

"Most people didn't even have any idea of what the evacuation warning sound would be.
'It was only because some of us had already been on a cruise that we recognised that seven blasts of the horn was a signal to abandon ship."

"Italian investigators are working on the theory that the £390million vessel sailed close to the island of Giglio to greet an officer from the Italian merchant navy who was friendly with those on the Concordia."

"Reports in Italy said that investigators had identified the man on shore and he would be questioned as part of the inquiry into the incident."

Last August the vessel passed close to the island sounding its whistle – prompting the mayor to send a congratulatory email to the captain for providing such a ‘spectacle to tourists’ and ‘fantastic entertainment’.

"Prosecutors described Schettino’s handling of the giant craft as ‘inept’ and he was forced to deny additional damaging claims that he left the ship to save himself, had been spotted in the bar and even raided the safe before leaving."

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...inking-bar-abandoning-ship.html#ixzz1jdLhvrw9
 

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