Found Deceased Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024 #3

[jackal67]

Quite possibly, if that is the case let's hope they know realise they need to tell them the whole story

They may be with holding information for their own protection if they were all mixed up in something bad?

 

[jackal67]

Now with the watch theory being spoken about it's worth remembering the quote from Lucy in the early days of the search
"I'd left the festival to come back to my hotel early because I was tired. Jay had stayed on with two new friends he'd made and a guy who we'd come with so there were four of them"

There was a fourth person with them, could have been Brad but people seem to think he went home early too.
How many people were they on the trip with? We only know of Lucy, jay and Brad so far...

I believe Brad stayed on longer than Lucy but then went home by himself later on

 

[Shellie85]

When I heard that, I thought to myself if it takes specialist to search the area how likely is it this is where he disappeared?

It could be areas where, if he has fell, he would have maybe landed in. Unfortunately these areas are so dense that even the dogs can’t get to them and the drones have no visual.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Unfortunately I think this young lad was in a inebriated state and decided To go for a walk in the hills. He may have been dehydrated and disorientated which may have led to poor decision making on treacherous terrain. Misadventure I'm guessing.

 

[johnlair]

I believe Brad stayed on longer than Lucy but then went home by himself later on

See she's saying festival I thought that had finished and his last sightings was at the club on the strip, maybe just the newspaper getting it wrong

 

[johnlair]

Unfortunately I think this young lad was in a inebriated state and decided To go for a walk in the hills. He may have been dehydrated and disorientated which may have led to poor decision making on treacherous terrain. Misadventure I'm guessing.

And everyone is entitled to their opinion, certainly seems like the most obvious answer but could he really have got that far. Would have thought there would have been a lot of birds about feasting

 

[jackal67]

See she's saying festival I thought that had finished and his last sightings was at the club on the strip, maybe just the newspaper getting it wrong

The rave was held at a club on the strip. Papagayo I believe People stayed behind at other bars and clubs that were still open after it had finished

 

[Winterbells]

In one of the threads someone posted a picture that showed several cactuses on the side of the road in the area he was walking, while he was walking along the road it is possible a car/lorry/bus came towards him in a narrow area and he moved out of the way cutting his leg on cactus in the process

What a shame he didn't manage to flag down whatever vehicle forced him into a cactus.

 

[Dotta]

What a shame he didn't manage to flag down whatever vehicle forced him into a cactus.

I don't think that any car "forced him into a cactus".

IMO
he decided to cut the way leaving the road.

As his call to Brad indicated.
He left the road, and was not cut by a plant.

It happened later.
As was reported during a call with Lucy.

His good mood vanished.
He became disoriented, thirsty and was injured.

JMO

 

[thewoodsman]

They may be with holding information for their own protection if they were all mixed up in something bad?

I don't understand why he wouldn't have just gone back to the house where the 2 people were- either to wait for the bus or ask for a lift if it was only a 15 min drive. They were supposedly friends so it shouldn't have been a problem.

 

[jackal67]

What a shame he didn't manage to flag down whatever vehicle forced him into a cactus.

Also a shame if none of the drivers on the road that day have come forward and reported seeing Jay , That is if Spanish police have made an appeal requesting this. Dash cam footage etc, It seems strange that no one saw him on the road that day

 

[jackal67]

I don't understand why he wouldn't have just gone back to the house where the 2 people were- either to wait for the bus or ask for a lift if it was only a 15 min drive. They were supposedly friends so it shouldn't have been a problem.

Or asked to borrow a phone to call a taxi back to his hotel ?

 

[Winterbells]

I don't think that any car "forced him into a cactus".

IMO
he decided to cut the way leaving the road.

As his call to Brad indicated.
He left the road, and was not cut by a plant.

It happened later.
As was reported during a call with Lucy.

JMO

I agree.
There may well be cacti encroaching onto the road, but it's obvious Jay was cut by one when he was off road.

 

[jackal67]

Or asked to borrow a phone to call a taxi back to his hotel ?

I believe it was a 50 minute drive back to his hotel not 15.

 

[Dotta]

ask for a lift if it was only a 15 min drive. They were supposedly friends so it shouldn't have been a problem.

50 minutes drive!!!

 

[jackal67]

I agree.
There may well be cacti encroaching onto the road, but it's obvious Jay was cut by one when he was off road.

We only know that about a cactus according to Lucy's version of events. It is not a verified fact , much like all the other information out there MOO

 

[jackal67]

50 minutes drive!!!

Yes ! Hence a 10 hour walk, Masca is a long way out from the resort.

 

[markoid]

It would matter though if foul play had occured which is still a possibility . There is no firm evidence that he walked off into the mountains. MOO

But there is, witness testimony is evidence. He states he was lost, doubtfully on the road. His friend also states he watched him sliding down a slope and walking off-road. Two of his closest friends place him off the road. That’s evidence. The police clearly have no reason to dispute that, hence the searching.

 

[imstilla.grandma]

Reacting to the police update, family friend Rachel Hargreaves, whose son Brad was partying with Jay at the three-day NRG festival in Tenerife, told MailOnline today: 'No one is leaving until we find Jay.'

She added: 'We stay and we do what we need to do. Nothing has changed. We will continue to search for him.'

Volunteers who have joined the desperate hunt for Jay in Tenerife are also set to stay - and will explore new areas over the coming days.

Although Spanish authorities claim the case has been clouded by 'inaccurate' conspiracy theories on social media, Jay's desperate family have called in the help of one social media sleuth - Paul Arnott.

The TikTok climber, who has spent more than a week in Tenerife, posted on his Down The Rapids account today: 'I'm possibly going to move the search over to another area, either tomorrow (Monday) or this evening (Sunday) but I will tell you about that later.'

Jay's mother, Debbie Duncan, told The Telegraph earlier this week: ' can't thank Paul Arnott enough, also Callum Rahim [another TikTok creator] and his friends for working alongside with the search and rescue teams.

'Myself, well you know the state of my mental health and my paranoia, you saw it first hand. As a family, we are in a living nightmare.'

Jay Slater's family to stay in Tenerife after cops ended search

Apprentice bricklayer Jay, from Oswaldtwistle, Lancashire, has not been seen since he went back to an Airbnb near the remote village of Masca with two men following a night out.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[jackal67]

But there is, witness testimony is evidence. He states he was lost, doubtfully on the road. His friend also states he watched him sliding down a slope and walking off-road. Two of his closest friends place him off the road. That’s evidence. The police clearly have no reason to dispute that, hence the searching.

Sorry but that is not evidence, it is his 2 friends version of events as told to journalists and possibly the Police. It may or may not be the truth and there is no way to verify these phone conversations with Jay.