Maybe swinging by to pick up cigarettes and was cold with come down from drugs or alcohol and grabbed the blanket but as another poster has stated the hotel that the blanket pics are from aren't the hotel that jay stayed in and blanket could easily been in the Airbnb ,I think criminal behaviour and youthful naivety on Jay's behalf played a major part in his down fall and likely death I feel he was played by the two older possibly more criminally seasoned guys God love his parents dealing with all this and quite possible all this information only coming to light now as media wanted to provide some kind of privacy to what their son was up to while they had some kind of time to process this information themselves ,A stark reminder to why crime doesn't payJMO but do young people at raves travel with gaudy blankets in case it gets a bit nippy late at night?
Sounds like something your nan might do, how would that play out? Yes, I'll come to yours to after party/deal in stolen watches/other nighttime activities but could we swing by and pick me up a blanket for the journey![]()
Forgot about that Dotta yes he did actually you are right ,so much noise about this I got confused about original reason for not going back in conversation with Lucy, I also think perhaps Lucy maybe made the conversation out to be more innocent than it was and in order to get police to listen and act she needed to use key words like lost ,thirsty ,phone dead /dying because if you relayed to the police what has only come out in msm they may not have acted as promptlyAs I understood:
He COULDN'T return
because
he was ALREADY LOST.
Didn't he tell Lucy
"I don't know where I am"???
Or something like that?
JMO but do young people at raves travel with gaudy blankets in case it gets a bit nippy late at night?
Sounds like something your nan might do, how would that play out? Yes, I'll come to yours to after party/deal in stolen watches/other nighttime activities but could we swing by and pick me up a blanket for the journey![]()
I had wondered if the fall jay had in the nightclub was the distraction and the two Airbnb guys told jay they would give him his cut of the deal at their Airbnb I will find pic of fall for reference and postI was once made the distraction in a shop theft - two men tripped me up in such an OTT way that I responded and got mad. They threatened me in an OTT way so lots of noise and arms flailing. Meanwhile I see their mate stealing stuff off the nearby shelf and signalling to one of the men who tripped me up. So yes it would be easy to do similar and undo a watch. JMO
noMay have missed it, who did the watch belong to? Has that person come forward?
TIA
In MWT he goes on to say ‘we have information that suggest Jay left the rental feeling scared……’As I understood:
He COULDN'T return
because
he was ALREADY LOST.
Didn't he tell Lucy
"I don't know where I am"???
Or something like that?
I had wondered if the fall jay had in the nightclub was the distraction and the two Airbnb guys told jay they would give him his cut of the deal at their Airbnb I will find pic of fall for reference and post
In MWT he goes on to say ‘we have information that suggest Jay left the rental feeling scared……’
So I think it’s both, he couldn’t go back because he was scared of going back & because he had become lost.
Kids these days refuse to even wear a coat to school when it's raining. I doubt he'd have been carrying around a blanket.JMO but do young people at raves travel with gaudy blankets in case it gets a bit nippy late at night?
Sounds like something your nan might do, how would that play out? Yes, I'll come to yours to after party/deal in stolen watches/other nighttime activities but could we swing by and pick me up a blanket for the journey![]()
She did say he was walking very fastHe didn't sound/look scared
while talking to Brad and the local woman.
He left because he wanted to.
(For whatever reason)
But not ran away.
JMO
She did say he was walking very fast
And I’m still not sure we can take Brad/Lucy’s conversations with Jay as gospel/verbatim.She did say he was walking very fast
That was an observation from Ofelia.And I’m still not sure we can take Brad/Lucy’s conversations with Jay as gospel/verbatim.
Yes, sorry, I was replying to the point about the conversation with Brad. I’m not sure we can take that at face value - but if we do believe what he said about Jay’s state of mind, yes absolutely, it could have changed between the two calls, either adrenaline wearing off as you say, realising he was in a more precarious position location-wise, seen someone catching up with him etc. JMO.That was an observation from Ofelia.
There's a good chance that he wasn't afraid when he left the AirBnB as the adrenaline would still be flowing. By the time he made it some way up the road, the adrenaline would have worn off. This would explain why he sounded upbeat with Brad, but distressed a while later with Lucy.