Spain Jay Slater, 19, missing on holiday in Tenerife, 17 June 2024 #4

[CoverMeCagney]

Just to clear up some confusion about why Jay might have walked the wrong way - if you put Masca to Los Cristianos into iPhone maps and click the walking tab, it does tell you to head up that road to get onto a walking trail. Not sure if android would give you the same directions.

* the walking trail is actually on the opposite side of the road to where Jay’s phone allegedly pinged. I hope that dude had also been searched.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

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You're all welcome to tell me I've lost my marbles but.... if Jay had come to that sharp bend in the road which then turns back on itself, is it at all possible that he could see the other side of that 'V' of road and decided to cut across country to the other side to save time and distance?

Anything is possible at this point, so I don't think you've lost your marbles.

But I don't think anybody with hiking experience (which it appears Jay didn't have) would ever consider that to be a "shortcut". Following the road around the bend would almost undoubtedly be easier and faster.

You hike through mountains because you enjoy the challenge, not because it's easy or quick.

 

[Sara11272]

But he wasn't going a planned hike...

no, but - hypothetically speaking of course - if you were concocting a story about someone who was lost, might you look at the three things they needed to survive in the area you said they were lost in, and make sure your story referenced them DEFINITELY not having those things… MOO

 

[Smccat]

The watch thing is a red herring, even if he stole it where would he sell it? it was his first trip abroad, wet behind the ears, no contacts or known fences in Tenerife to sell to if he had run off with a watch from Quasssim’s airbnb, not like he could sell it in a random bar

The only possibility of anything watch related is he was promised a cut by Quassim/his mate and was then double crossed at the villa and fled empty handed

Yes I’ll bow to any greater knowledge but I don’t think fencing is easy at all for amateurs and with no contacts too.

 

[Curiousraccoon]

Just to clear up some confusion about why Jay might have walked the wrong way - if you put Masca to Los Cristianos into iPhone maps and click the walking tab, it does tell you to head up that road to get onto a walking trail. Not sure if android would give you the same directions.

* the walking trail is actually on the opposite side of the road to where Jay’s phone allegedly pinged. I hope that dude had also been searched.

Android does not send you on those/any trails, I checked back when he disappeared and Android sent me to walk on the windy road down south (yes, I did select walking directions)
Edit: I mean Google maps on Android.

 

[su5ie]

Just to clear up some confusion about why Jay might have walked the wrong way - if you put Masca to Los Cristianos into iPhone maps and click the walking tab, it does tell you to head up that road to get onto a walking trail. Not sure if android would give you the same directions.

* the walking trail is actually on the opposite side of the road to where Jay’s phone allegedly pinged. I hope that dude had also been searched.

I was thinking same I hope they have searched both sides surely that's the logical thing to do imo

 

[su5ie]

no, but - hypothetically speaking of course - if you were concocting a story about someone who was lost, might you look at the three things they needed to survive in the area you said they were lost in, and make sure your story referenced them DEFINITELY not having those things… MOO

I have said that I feel Lucy used key words when reporting an adult missing ,hurt/ injured, thirsty /dehydrated, low phone battery ,lost bearings etc in order to make law enforcement act quickly as reporting a missing person who you have seen a couple of hours ago and gone on holiday together wouldn't exactly make them sit up and listen in their minds jay could have hooked up with a girl and Lucy was a jilted girlfriend trying to find a wayward boyfriend in the throws of passion

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

There appear to be at least two radio (phone?) towers in the vicinity, one on each side of the Barranco Juan Lopez ravine. So if the last contact was from a phone ping, the location derived from multiple towers should be fairly accurate:

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[statt#1]

There appear to be at least two radio (phone?) towers in the vicinity, one on each side of the Barranco Juan Lopez ravine. So if the last contact was from a phone ping, the location derived from multiple towers should be fairly accurate:

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Excellent! This is what I was trying to get at a couple pages back. It appears that the phone ping location might be fairly accurate, even though it's a mountainous region. And the off the cuff mention of the general vicinity of that ping being a spot where it appeared that phone would have had to have been 'thrown' in to that area....well, either somebody tossed it in to that dense brushy near impenetrable area, or it was dropped in there from above, or somebody went in there with it.

And....if nobody has retrieved that phone, then it just might still be layin' in there somewhere.

Maybe a raven picked up that phone, or an armadillo, or something, and carried it in to that location??? No armadillo's on Tenerife???

Something smells bad...y'all smell it?

 

[Dotta]

Jay Slater's father ​

calls for Interpol ​

to get involved in the search for his teenage son ​

after claiming ​

the Spanish police probe into his son's disappearance​

'stinks'."​

Jay Slater's father calls for Interpol to get involved in the search

Missing raver Jay Slater's father has called for Interpol to get involved in the search for his son who has now been missing for three weeks on the Spanish island of Tenerife.

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[tedtink]

Jay Slater's father ​

calls for Interpol ​

to get involved in the search for his teenage son ​

after claiming ​

the Spanish police probe into his son's disappearance​

'stinks'."​

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Jay Slater's father calls for Interpol to get involved in the search

Missing raver Jay Slater's father has called for Interpol to get involved in the search for his son who has now been missing for three weeks on the Spanish island of Tenerife.

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"Stinks"
He's not wrong.

 

[su5ie]

Jay Slater's father ​

calls for Interpol ​

to get involved in the search for his teenage son ​

after claiming ​

the Spanish police probe into his son's disappearance​

'stinks'."​

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Jay Slater's father calls for Interpol to get involved in the search

Missing raver Jay Slater's father has called for Interpol to get involved in the search for his son who has now been missing for three weeks on the Spanish island of Tenerife.

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Does interpol get involved in missing person cases or is it just crime I know there is a criminal aspect suspected in Jay's case but so far not proven by evidence I thought interpol is a crime sharing network between countries

 

[su5ie]

What is INTERPOL?

Imagine you are the victim of a crime committed by someone from another country. How can police catch the person?

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About Yellow Notices

A Yellow Notice is a global police alert to help locate missing persons.

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Seems they do just searched

 

[Lincoln34]

I had to ask Google as English is a foreign language for me, haha
"Food" as in slang.

Teens have their own specific language.
Even their parents don't understand half of their expressions.

My 3 teens - and we are North West England have no idea what scran means. I had to explain to them .

 

[Eyes-on]

Jay Slater's father calls for Interpol to get involved in the search

Missing raver Jay Slater's father has called for Interpol to get involved in the search for his son who has now been missing for three weeks on the Spanish island of Tenerife.

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I honestly believe we are being deliberately misled by some of the people involved in this.
Questions: Were any cars forensically examined? Surely DNA would be present if J had been in the car or the Airbnb. Easy enough to obtain from a cigarette end.

Why did Q mention what footwear J was allegedly wearing, unless it was to try and convince LE that it was J in the photo sent from the Airbnb? I suspect it wasn't J.

 

[hoodunnit]

I had wondered if Potter was the second guy too

I would think though if it was him, J would have bragged about being with him (he being somewhat of a "famous" personality), like he did, allegedly, about the watch?

 

[thinker47]

My brain hurts and my teeth itch over this and nothing adds up and something stinks but in order to calm both the brain and the teeth, I;m gong to grass roots.

The few things we know (or can actually safely believe) from witnesses are as follows...

We know he was at the rave
We know his friends left without him
We know he went to the Airbnb with two men
We know he was there at 8am
We know he was on the road shortly thereafter
We know he was walking on 'stones'
We know he was lost and without water or the wherewithal to contact anyone shortly thereafter
We know (if we believe he was lost) that he was no longer on the road, since it is one mountain road and he could have just turned round and retraced his steps

End of story. I think he left, he strayed off the road for whatever reason, I think we'll never know why and I am very sad to believe that he was in an inhospitable area, died by methods we shall never discover and, the ultimate sadness, will probably never be found. I believe that MWT will go deep into it and find what can be found but this ultimately happened away from the mainstream, with only 3 people able to confirm that essentially nothing happened there except that he arrived and left. After that, only Jay knows and I don't believe there is anyone who can tell MWT or anyone else anything different. Now, will that shut the brain up? (I'm assuming the stories of his sitting watching the Euros in a bar in the early evening have been debunked? I haven't managed to find that.... And did he ever reach the cafe at the lookout point above the village? Hah - hopeless case here....)

 

[Inspector R fowler]

Why go north?

If your destination is in the southern part of the island? The route back along the road is fairly populated the further south you go and after a few isolated spots is somewhat easier to travel.

Why did Jay need to leave the house so soon? He had two much easier ways to get back to his apartment 20+ miles away, Wait for an alleged ride back with Qassim, or wait for an hour or two for a bus? Surely an 11hr+ walk back was a foolhardy option and somewhat odd if his last Snapchat was North of his start location? The last photo of him with his exact location typed in the text could be him leaving a sign of life and documenting his location.

My current theories:
Could Jay have wanted to get to a bus stop further away from Masca to distance himself from the individuals involved, going north along trails would mean he was less likely to be seen. Maybe it was a random direction to hide as he may have been chased or thought as much at least. Gotten lost and may have succumbed to the elements.

Did Jay get taken by "someone" looking for him and the last Snapchat was sent under persuasion by a third party looking to confuse the search? Did he leave the flat as it is quoted "He left alive" The Scran remark seems ambiguous as if he was so hungry why did he not go and get food? Did he leave the house or was he found and picked up later? His fate is in their hands and unknown to us where only speculation exists.

I'll say it again why go North?

 

[thinker47]

Why go north?

If your destination is in the southern part of the island? The route back along the road is fairly populated the further south you go and after a few isolated spots is somewhat easier to travel.

Someone posted earlier that if you ask for the walking route from Masca to San Cristianos on Google Maps, it tells you to go north from the Airbnb to join a southbound trail farther up,