Thanks for clearing up the Lauren Renee Smith/MS entry. Sorry for the mistake. I'll correct my list.
JLM: Other Possible Victims - #2
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Thanks for clearing up the Lauren Renee Smith/MS entry. Sorry for the mistake. I'll correct my list.
In 2004, he could have been living with his family in another state, visiting his friend in California, or looking for another college to play football.
In 2004, he could have been living with his family in another state, visiting his friend in California, or looking for another college to play football.
A Sleuth corrected my list - I had the right date but the wrong Lauren Smith, so I corrected the list above in bold.
Another Sleuth posted that there were NO Liberty U games the days that Alexis Murphy and Cassandra Morton were abducted, though Alexis disappeared on a Saturday.
Was there a special practice game that day? Anyone know the coaches at Liberty?
Heidi Childs and David Metzer do not fit JLM's MO - since they were shot. Unless he was out hunting while visiting a relative.
However, a dark green Dodge automobile is on the LE list as a possible perp-mobile. Jesse's burnt orange slightly pimped up Chrysler coupe (added lower features) could pass for a Dodge and looks like a re-paint. Wonder if there is any little bit of dark green paint to be found under the orange paint and the primer?
My mistake - I've corrected my list. Thanks so much!
OK - let's consider and list those attacks that occurred on 'game weekends' at both CNU and Liberty. He may have been tired from playing or unsuccessful the first night out.
Also, what about Spring games and any Championship play-off games. There are clusters of disappearances in January and in the Spring.
This is chilling.
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Bethany Anne Decker was in my town Ashburn (in No. Va). and there's a thread here on Websleuths about her> http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?129923-VA-Bethany-Anne-Decker-21-Ashburn-29-Jan-2011
She actually went missing 1/29/11 and it is strongly suspected that an alleged abusive boyfriend who was the supposed father of her unborn child played a part in her disappearance. There was also a "Disappeared" episode on the ID channel that aired about the case if anyone's interested..... IMO her case is definitely unrelated to JM (even though she was attending GMU in Fairfax at the time of her disappearance- she was last seen at her apt. in Ashburn).
She actually went missing 1/29/11 and it is strongly suspected that an alleged abusive boyfriend who was the supposed father of her unborn child played a part in her disappearance. There was also a "Disappeared" episode on the ID channel that aired about the case if anyone's interested..... IMO her case is definitely unrelated to JM (even though she was attending GMU in Fairfax at the time of her disappearance- she was last seen at her apt. in Ashburn).
Two corrections:
Alexis Murphy was last seen in Lovingston, Va
Heidi Childs and David Metzler were found murdered in Blacksburg, Va
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Also someone pointed out recently, either here or on one of the UID threads, the belief that Gracie MacCord is alive and well according to an active FB account.
Regarding the matching of game days to missing persons dates, Pacific2011 on the 'waiting for results" thread pointed out that the date reported missing is not necessarily the actual date the girls disappeared. I think that's very important to consider here. Perhaps those of you with the game date list could do a side-by-side matching with games anywhere from 0-3 days prior to the date listed missing? Remember, we only know Hannah's actual disappearance date because of the videos. She wasn't reported missing until late the following day, if I recall.
Very good point, mainemom!
I'm not going to have a lot of time in the near future due to family obligations, but will do a little at a time to research dates, etc. and correct my list/s. Maybe others can do the same and over time, we can compile a single list to send to LE and perhaps Coy Barefoot.
It's good to copy anything sent to LE to a trusted journalist to increase accountability both ways. Coy has reported with integrity and discretion. I especially appreciated his interviews of Dr. Jeffrey Fracher and Shanlon Wu on Inside C-ville radio...and the timeline of the evening Hannah Graham disappeared was stunning.
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That was me. I was trying to find more details surrounding her disappearance and instead I found her FB. It's current and active. It's definitely her and she is alive and well. Something positive among all this tragedy.
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Can we agree on a format for our individual lists and what information we need on them?
What about this:
month/day/year abducted (so that we can correlate the date with ball game weekends)
Then full Name, place of abduction, date/place body discovered if applicable, POI/suspects if any, date of ball game.
That's 6 categories. Do we need anything else?
Any other considerations/ideas?
What about this:
month/day/year abducted (so that we can correlate the date with ball game weekends)
Then full Name, place of abduction, date/place body discovered if applicable, POI/suspects if any, date of ball game.
That's 6 categories. Do we need anything else?
Any other considerations/ideas?
Excellent article, I feel , re the perp JLM and Alexis
http://wtvr.com/2014/10/23/the-5-th...exis-murphy-and-jesse-matthew/comment-page-1/
http://wtvr.com/2014/10/23/the-5-th...exis-murphy-and-jesse-matthew/comment-page-1/
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OK. So when Hannah Graham went missing, her phone texted that she was lost and near 14th and Wertland Streets at 1:20 AM, right. That text was inaccurate, right? What if LJ Matthews texted that on Hannah's phone to throw people off the trail? It's possible right.
OK, so Joan Renee Cook went missing Jan. 24, 2010. She apparently got in to a fight with her husband and left her child behind with him to go stay at a friend's house. She never made it to her friend's house. It was cold and rainy that night. Perfect opportunity for a predator to offer someone walking on foot a ride.
So the morning after Joan disappeared, she sent out a text message.
http://projectjason.org/forums/topic/2051-missing-woman-joan-renee-cook-va-01242010/
At 5:30 the next morning, phone records show a text message was sent from Cook's phone to another friend. The message was inconsequential, Morris said, nothing mysterious or unusual. There's no way for police to prove Cook typed and sent it.
And then, did JLM ever hang out around South Boston? Because they found Hattie Gertrude Brown's burnt car behind an abandoned farm, which sounds very Jesse Leroy Matthews Jr.-esque.
OK, so Joan Renee Cook went missing Jan. 24, 2010. She apparently got in to a fight with her husband and left her child behind with him to go stay at a friend's house. She never made it to her friend's house. It was cold and rainy that night. Perfect opportunity for a predator to offer someone walking on foot a ride.
So the morning after Joan disappeared, she sent out a text message.
http://projectjason.org/forums/topic/2051-missing-woman-joan-renee-cook-va-01242010/
At 5:30 the next morning, phone records show a text message was sent from Cook's phone to another friend. The message was inconsequential, Morris said, nothing mysterious or unusual. There's no way for police to prove Cook typed and sent it.
And then, did JLM ever hang out around South Boston? Because they found Hattie Gertrude Brown's burnt car behind an abandoned farm, which sounds very Jesse Leroy Matthews Jr.-esque.
yeah he had a gf from the time MH was killed until just recently.