jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND #51 *may contain graphic and adult content*

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I'm one of the mouthiest people you will ever meet. I'm also rather brave..... Until I had a gun stuck in my face. I froze ... Completely.


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Nobody knows what they will do in violent situations until they are confronted with the event. One might "think" they know but one really doesn't know until the situation presents itself.

Travis didn't have prayer in this situation. Not a prayer to get out of it no matter how quick, aggressive etc. "May the Angels keep his soul safe"
 
snap out of it. Lol this is jodi speaking. She never mentions this in her journal, nor in the phone conversation. Only the bubblebath is mentioned on the tape. He wouldn't kiss her after her giving him oral sex so what do we think. She probably made it up. Jmo

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Now I am spinning a bit about the black eye.....hmhmmmmmmm

He did have bruising and swelling over his left eye. It was evident in a photo I saw on another site that had all the autopsy photos. I showed my doc husband the photos and the ME report. I asked him the questions we all have had. These were his thoughts: Alot of the questions could not be answered by the ME report; decomposition prevented knowing what came first when; he felt the subclavian stab wound came first, and when TA did not die right away, she panicked and used the gun, then back to the knife when it jammed; TA probably died in less than 2 minutes, the throat wound being the accelerating factor. This is just his opinion based on what I showed him. He also said that without examining TA, this is his best guess.
 
.... Until I had a gun stuck in my face.


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yeah when that happened to me, I said whatever I needed to say to let me get away, I became a biotch, at least a living one.

We had a saying when we were younger.

He who runs away will live to fight another day!
 
I have a problem with that, because I think her entire purpose for going there was to hold him at gunpoint/knife point and TELL HIM why he was about to die. She would not kill him without telling him all of her complaints, imo.

She certainly loves to talk and explain things doesn't she?


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Right, but I'm addressing someone's claim that there was a hole in the lung that filled with blood from the chest stab.

As I recall the ME report+

there was LITTLE blood in the right hemi-thorax and also very little if any free blood in the pericardial sac!!

The knife trajectory hit the pericardium and lacerated the superior vena cava.
There was NO laceration of right bronchi or lung laceration.
I did not see in the ME report that TA right lung was collapsed secondary to a previous pneumothorax
 
Exactly. Just like when she would "accidentally" send him text messages that were meant for another man. She is playing games that girls in Jr High and High School play. Am I the only one who think she's very emotionally immature?

There was a great article we linked upthread yesterday I believe. It was about 'how to cross examine a sociopath.' One of the points made was that sociopaths get locked into an age range, often 10 to 14 yrs old. And they never move past that level of emotional maturity. She is a great example, imo.

Another thing the article said was that you needed to find their personal weakness. I think hers was her family and anyone criticizing her family. So I think that is why he opened with her calling her sis dumb. He wanted to get to her personal weakness and attack her and throw her off balance. JMO
 
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Prosecuting Casey Anthony! Just started on the west coast lifetime channel
 
yeah when that happened to me, I said whatever I needed to say to let me get away, I became a biotch, at least a living one.

We had a saying when we were younger.

He who runs away will live to fight another day!

I couldn't even speak, my mouth went so dry I wouldn't have been able to spit for a million dollars. Frozen!


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If Travis was shot first while sitting.... it is instinctual to lift your hands up and cover your face/ head while moving away/turning away from the bullet being fired at you. None of these things were done. jmo
Not if you didn't see the gun in time ... the shower door opened from left to right and Arias could have held the gun on the left side outside the shower.
 
I have always thought that Travis stripped his own bed and put his sheets in the washer, then dryer.

The furniture (iIrc) was displaced in such a way that I also assumed that Travis had begun cleaning his house before getting in the shower. The vacuum cleaner or 'floor cleaner' was found in the middle of his living room, I believe, adding to this theory imv.

Travis was a tidy guy, that seems pretty clear. I do not believe JA would do any cleaning chores when Travis (or anyone else) was home, because I think it was merely a vehicle for in-house snooping/surveillance... there would be no benefit for her otherwise.

Setting aside, for a moment, conversation/emotion - mainly because I have several ideas on that but focusing on logistics for this post:

I think they got out of bed for the last time that afternoon, and Travis put the sheets/bedding in the wash and began to clean his house - while JA appeared to be leaving or preparing to leave shortly. Travis then got into the shower (leaving sweaty black t-shirt and shorts on the bathroom floor) after having seen JA to the door (only she came right back - or perhaps never left, making up some excuse) only to, shortly thereafter, find JA (uninvited) snapping pictures of him in the shower, completely unaware (or more likely unconcerned, even self-satisfied) of how rude and invasive such behaviour is.

I think the towels and clothes found in the washer (at least some of them) were bloody, and JA washed them - ruining the colored items with bleach in hopes of removing blood - something a person just doing a normal load of dark/black clothes and rust/rose towels - would not do.

I think she used the towels and clothes (discarded on the bathroom floor by Travis upon getting in the shower) some of which got bloody from the murder, others used by JA to walk/stand on, keeping her feet clean while getting through the hall (and eliminating any shoe/foot prints in the process), from which she would then jump off of to the clean carpet - in the bedroom or closet perhaps after putting on clean (non-bloody) socks to wear from the bedroom to the washing machine. I think she piled the bloody items just beyond the bathroom hall on the carpet that appears smudged.

She scooped up these items in a clean towel (or other item that she took with her) to contain any blood (that was likely absorbed into the cloth and wouldn't drip) and the camera (after deleting the photos) dousing all with bleach. I think the socks and undergarments may have already been put in the washer by Travis, intending to wash them once he had enough for a full load.

I think JA showered in the shower either standing on or straddling Travis. The shower was already bloody, I don't think she'd want to risk leaving evidence in a first floor shower or the master bathtub. I think she may have rinsed the walls of the shower with the cup. ETA: Then again, if the master bathtub was spotless and free of blood... it seems unlikely that no spatter, even a little, would hit the tub, so she may have used it and meticulously cleaned it afterwards, but the shower was there and I think she chose the fastest, shortest way to get done and get out, so while possible I think it's unlikely...

I think the camera was put in the wash intentionally in an attempt to destroy it. If it was 'caught up' in the bed linens, it would have been found in the dryer with the bed linens. And I don't believe the items in the washer were large enough individually for a bulky camera to get caught in a shirt or towel unnoticed. The load wasn't big enough for that either. It likely made a racket clanging around in there. Something one would investigate unless they put it there deliberately.


Just a few theories... :) What can I say, I love to play with my brain. Feel free to point out any glaring holes in my ideas - I'm sure there are many.

Travis only had white towels in his closet. I think the rust color towel may have been covered with blood because blood turns a rust color when you try to beach it. I could be wrong but it seems his linen closet is full of white towels. jmo
 
I still believe in gunshot first. I have been unsure a few times. But I keep coming back to Travis being a kickboxing wrestler in very good shape. I don't think she could hold him off with just a knife for very long, without being injured herself. He would have fought hard against a knife and probably gotten it away from her. He would have been stabbed but she would have been injured too. Unless he was somewhat incapacitated immediately. JMO


I feel the gunshot came first also. I think she "spins" :floorlaugh: small truths into her lies. With that being said, in an interview with Flores, she said "IF" she could do it, she would have to use a gun. Does anyone think she may have had an accomplice? The reason I ask is because she speaks of a male and female intruder (herself and ?) She says she would use a gun.. and possibly a male used the knife. I don't buy it, but just wondered if anyone does feed into that scenario? Could she have cut her hand trying to stop someone else? Just playing a little Devil's Advocate I guess.

I think tomorrow is going to be DY NO MITE!!!!!!!!
 
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for anyone that didn't know.
 
But you assume that Travis saw the gun and gun shot coming.
I submit he did NOT see a gun pulled on him and there was no reason to believe he was about to be shot.
JA simply pulls a gun out of her back pocket and then shoots him. This is called
"element of surprise".
TA was AMBUSHED in the shower.

There was no "hey Travis - I am going to shoot you now"

If he's shot in the head first, how do you explain the defensive knife wounds to the hands?
 
I couldn't even speak, my mouth went so dry I wouldn't have been able to spit for a million dollars. Frozen!


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being that we have shared this experience.....he had the shotgun aimed at my head, he got the drop on me...I was wrong, at his house seeing his girlfriend. He told me say your a little bit*h. I said just that, was not going to argue at that point.
 
Hi All...

This may have been asked before but was wondering about the piece of duct tape that was found in the laundry room on the floor. I know there was alot of speculation early on about it being used in sex games but I was wondering if maybe she used it to secure the gun on her her trip to TA under the hood of her rental car.

I haven't seen the part where she was arrested and a gun was found so I don't know the details but was wondering if someone hides a gun under the hood of a car how do they do it??
 
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