jodi arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 11TH DAY #57 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[RadarLuv]

New thread????? Good morn peeps.

 

[minazoe]

He starts to get her going when he passionately says "WHAT RIGHT DID YOU HAVE TO GO THERE THEN? WHAT RIGHT DO YOU HAVE TO BE IN HIS HOUSE???"

yah...she freakin hates that....tell her she is not entitled...oh yeah...themz fightin words..this sounds awful but I hope she is super PMS'ssy...and migrainny...today will be pure torture then...

 

[Melanie]

oh no! My DS is home sick with a cold. Seems like that would be no biggie, but he's ashmatic -- so I had to bring out the inhalers out and will have to schedule a Dr's appointment when they open at 9:00 AM. May have to catch up you peeps later. Thanks in advance for all the updates!

Hugs,

Mel

 

[Nosey Parker]

If I were on the jury I would want the prosecutor to be very thorough about debunking her lies. It is not an easy thing to convict a fellow human being of a heinous crime and to recommend a sentence of death and it shouldn't be. They have to feel sure beyond a reasonable doubt because they are going to live with their decision.

It seems to me that his questions are relevant to disproving her defense. She says that she was physically, emotionally, and sexually abused by Travis. He is debunking all of that.

All the questioning and testimony about sex, for example, may seem to be excessive, but I now know that she did nothing with Travis that she hadn't done before (so she wasn't shocked), that sometimes she gave no indication that she didn't want to do certain things even when she didn't, and that when she didn't want to do something and did tell him, he stopped immediately. So where was the sexual abuse?

As for emotional abuse, here's just one thing we learned. She said that he was borrowing money from her and calling her selfish when she didn't have it to give him. But in fact, he was loaning money to her.

We have no one's word except hers that she killed Travis in self defense and the prosecutor is proving that she is a liar, not just before being under oath but during her testimony in the trial. She has to explain the savage overkill. She's doing that by portraying herself as an abused woman and he is showing that it isn't true.

:star1: ITA

 

[zoey]

JA was in Mesa two weeks before she killed him?

I believe she was in Yerka ---

 

[Sleuth13]

Ya know how bad things happen in 3's? This morning my garage door got stuck but the belt kept running (that's 1); I came to work and was asked to retrieve documents off a CD and it went POP!! and exploded in my disc drive into 100's of pieces (that's 2); so I'm REALLY REALLY REALLY hoping today will be the day that JA's tazer will go off (as #3)!!!!

 

[spyhouston]

Originally Posted by spyhouston
What's shocking to this grandmas is that I keep hearing stuff that I have to google to find out what in the world that means....and I thought I was pretty 'with it'. And, to add insult to injury, I've been trying to google 'jazz'... I'm beginning to think we need a thread "For old people to ask questions about stuff so regular threads won't know they don't know!"

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You thought he shot JAZZ on her?! OMG ROFL!!!

I know right! The only thing that makes me feel better if when I tell my girlfriends about some of this stuff, they don't know either!

 

[jevipo74]

oh no! My DS is home sick with a cold. Seems like that would be no biggie, but he's ashmatic -- so I had to bring out the inhalers out and will have to schedule a Dr's appointment when they open at 9:00 AM. May have to catch up you peeps later. Thanks in advance for all the updates!

Hugs,

Mel

I hope he feels better!

 

[Lissa]

Basically if you put out positive thinking and act in harmony with this you will get what you desire. If you put out negative stuff (i am ugly no one wants me) then this negativity and repercussions of this thinking is all you will get. You won't put any energy into changing to get something positive. That is what the gist is. whatever you want, tell yourself you can do it and take steps to get it while keeping up the positive. I never saw anything in it about something unpreventable, like cancer, happenig because someone wasn't thinking positively enough. There's a diff between negative thinking and actions that and negative things happening that you had no control over.
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Thanks for setting the story straight. I hate when people misinterpret the notion of positive thinking. :great:

 

[bpinkbinkie]

Its like Cindy A claim that she attempted suicide by writing a note....PLEASE

Death by papercut? :floorlaugh:

 

[Sigh Sister]

Thank you....do we know when she called Matt to borrow a gun for attempted suicide?

I think it was after she killed Travis. Not sure exactly when

 

[zoey]

:floorlaugh:

Thank you....do we know when she called Matt to borrow a gun for attempted suicide?

I believe in the spring when Travis told her to move to Anartica.....

 

[seattlechiquita]

Morning peeps.... :coffeews: hope we don't get a "Ms. Arias is sick, your Honor" BS....

 

[StephanieHartPI]

Despite the debate on JM tactic being too harsh, or yelling at her, or not getting to the point.

The Jury will go back to decide if JA murdered him?

Answer: Yes

Did she plan this in any way in advance of arriving at his home?

Answer: should be...Yes

They will not debate if he scolded her too much on the stand. Would that cause all 12 Jurors to go with Murder 1 and no premeditation? I doubt it.

Would that cause 12 Jurors to go with "Not Guilty"

I doubt that too...

 

[Stolat]

So if she thinks Travis's alleged attraction to boys "sickening".

And in the next few minutes she also could not resist her sexual attraction to him.

Why doesnt Juan just ask what that says about her that she has a sick sexual attraction to pedophiles? Takes a sicko pervert to be attracted to one - right????

 

[Wishbone]

JA was in Mesa two weeks before she killed him?

That doesn't sound right....can't remember any mention of them being together that close to the day he was murdered.

 

[shelley921]

She's a Sociopath... So her baseline thinking isn't like ours.. she isn't able to absorb relate understand empathize or sympathize other people's feelings. Because of this she mimics others in behavior & society norms but she can't grasp boundaries or.. nuances of society for example YOU DON'T SEND FLOWERS OR GO TO MEMORIALS FOR PEOPLE YOU MURDER! You know lil things like that.

good post - "normal" people can't imagine how she can act the way she does because we are not wired like she is..

 

[Camdenres]

"medical photos" ...lol

 

[Rileyanne]

I wanted to share with you all. I have no doubt JA planned to kill Travis. None. However, I wa talking to my husband about this case, he is a guy =-) like many of the jury, and he was NOT convinced she had. Now, my husband is a very smart guy with tons of common sense. I admit to losing my mind but I was sorta in shock ya know?! I went over the evidence and he wasn't convinced until I went over the time frame of the photos and Travis's death. He finally agreed there wasn't time. JM needs to spell this out BIG TIME. Including the fact that she had the weapons on her when the attack occured. My husband orginally believed she may have had them just in case something happened. (I know, I know.) He also needs to spell out how planning can happen in an instant. The choice to walk/run away or commit the crime. My husband is a good guy and he just can't understand HOW a young woman could do such a crime. Well, me too. But I know she did. I hope JM understands this!

At the risk of angering many here, I'm afraid it's time to move on. JM has proven her to be a liar, proven she was experienced when she met Travis and probably introduced him to many activities, proven she is not a shrinking violet and perfectly capable of manipulating the men in her life.

It's time to convince the jury that this was a per-meditated murder and she tried for more than two years to lie her way out of it.

The jury, I believe, is aware of WHO SHE IS and it is now time to prove to them WHAT SHE DID. JA's family deserves nothing less.

 

[pip]

So he's going to request a 'do-over' of yesterday? I think Juan wouldn't mind coming at her again on those issues.

I think he will use this theory on a few points in his rebuttal where he wants to dispute and do a switcharoo of some of the answers she gave. I think he may even use this to explain away her assertive/aggressive behavior on the stand. I think they hoped she would appear more passive/docile and victim-like than she has been able to pull off so far. JMO.