jodi Arias TAKES THE STAND FOR 9TH DAY #48 *may contain graphic and adult content*

[Linda From New York]

I didn't see any of the trial today and tried to view it objectively tonight even though I'd read some of the comments throughout the day. I think the cross sucked, even accounting for my distaste for Juan. It sucked beyond my wildest expectations. I posted last night, I thought he would focus on the premeditation and proving her lies with the CLEAR and OBVIOUS recorded interviews. I'm mind blown and now understanding while he's still an ADA.

She was on the stand for direct for what, 7 days? There is A LOT to go over to impeach her loooooooooong inane babbling and lies. And it was only the very first day of his cross.

Some have said they had some trouble following what Juan was doing and where he was going with it. Perhaps you weren't able to follow what he was doing and maybe that is why you think it sucked?

I was able to follow, so IMO it didn't suck.

 

[4Jacy]

Where did you hear closed chambers on Wednesday? That's a bummer. I thought someone posted earlier the court schedule for next week is M-W, so does that mean only 2 days of testimony?

She was referring to last Wed. :seeya:

 

[Stephenie]

After reading TAs last posting to his blog, about what it is he is looking for in a wife, i think it probably had quite an impact on crazy JA. Wonder if that gets brought up. His blog was heartbreaking really.

Another thing, was the defense privy to the magazines? It seemed not. Different rules of evidence I guess.

 

[Sigh Sister]

I'm with you on this. Watching Nurmi, it was evident to me he didn't know the significance of the evidence and was desperately searching for the answer. Also, when he objected, he came across very dejected. Part of it, I think, was feeling betrayed by his own client; she should have told him what she'd done. I think she has sandbagged him the entire trial.

IMO

Does anyone know how discovery works? I did look it up, but don't fully understand it. My understanding is that they had to have known about the magazines. What I'm not clear on is whether JM had to tell the defense what they found in the magazines or just simply that the magazines were evidence that the prosecution may submit. Hope this makes sense.

 

[Callisto]

Ahhh I caught like 20 minutes of the trial yesterday during the finger picture part and IMO it was amazing how JM shoots from the hip and how JA is a smirking little brat on the stand. When she isn't allowed to control the pace or flow and is Caught in her deceit she turns into a b&#*@ which is the exact opposite of what I'd imagine an abused, tormented person who is on trial for killing their friend from self defense.. It makes me mad because who JA pretends she is, a weak and passive pawn in relationships, is how I truly used to be (and sometimes revert back to) and in the face of a man in authority yelling at me I would not become defiant.. Defiance shows confidence and a feeling of superiority. I think if JA was legit she would become sullen, maybe even cry, when being "yelled" at by JM.

I will be watching the trial later on YouTube but I'm curious what the general consensus was about how JM did, how bad JA looked and how many more days of cross are expected? TIA!

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[Linda From New York]

there is a very calculated reason he has to take those side roads and go off on those tangents, imo. Because she is such a prolific liar and shape shifter, he does not want to telegraph to her exactly where he is heading.

While it is nice for the jury to hear big declarative statements about where he is going with his questions, it makes it too easy for her to fashion her bogus answers beforehand. if you want to catch someone in a lie, you cannot go in a linear, organized fashion, or they will be a step ahead of you.

remember when he kept going at her to tell him what time she went to ta's and saw him with the child pictures? He already knew that there was a very very small window of time that day, and she did too. He was trying to trap her. He might have gotten just the tips of her toes in the trap with that line of questioning, because she wouldn't commit to an exact time. But then suddenly we saw the texts with her correct work time, and the texts between them, discussing mundane subjects, and then he veers off into the journal, and she get hardly get her bearings.

So, although it makes it harder for the jury, it also makes it harder for her. And that is the most important element right now. He doesn't need to make it all tight and buttoned up for the media, the press or the audience, he only needs to connect with the jury. And i think they are right on top of it.

excellent!!!

 

[FrayedKnot]

Isn't this what bifocals are for?

I was just going to post this......still catching up from last night :seeya::coffeecup:

I used to wear glasses for reading and watching tv, basic nearsightness.

Then I found myself having to hold my book away from my body or push down my glasses to look over them in order to see the print clearly. They were still fine for viewing distance.

Turns out I needed bifocals for an astigmatism. I was in my 40's though. But I suppose it's possible a younger person could need bifocals. :waitasec:

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

um they're gonna be sterilized first, right?

I mean spayed and neutered.

Good point... We certainly don't need their DNA in the gene pool! :what:

 

[Sigh Sister]

She was on the stand for direct for what, 7 days? There is A LOT to go over to impeach her loooooooooong inane babbling and lies. And it was only the very first day of his cross.

Some have said they had some trouble following what Juan was doing and where he was going with it. Perhaps you weren't able to follow what he was doing and maybe that is why you think it sucked?

I was able to follow, so IMO it didn't suck.

JM's strategy makes perfect sense to me. Deconstruct her lies one by one while keeping her off kilter. We all know the house of lies she built, and he is demolishing it brick by brick. Take a brick here, take a brick there and eventually that house is going to crash down around her.

 

[kaki]

JM's strategy makes perfect sense to me. Deconstruct her lies one by one while keeping her off kilter. We all know the house of lies she built, and he is demolishing it brick by brick. Take a brick here, take a brick there and eventually that house is going to crash down around her.

And all the while JA smirking and feeling superior. She is just showing the jurors what a psycho she really is. I was amazed to see her change so much yesterday..like seeing a different person.

Her DT should have schooled her to act demure and shake like a chihuahua when JM raised his voice. She wants us to believe she was scared of Travis..but not intimidated at all of JM. Most normal people would be pretty intimidated..I know i would!

Just think it is funny she seemed so pleased with herself yesterday..like she was handling JM...but in reality it was the opposite.. :great:

JM is really brilliant!

 

[Ricki]

You're right, she did think she won! ROFLMAO! :floorlaugh:

Just jumping in here this morning. After watching the trial yesterday and viewing the smirks, smiles and laugh's of JA, I am getting the impression that she will not breakdown on the stand at anytime. I have heard one talking head (can not remember his name) say he thinks she might break down sobbing at some point.
That is not my opinion. My opinion is that if anything we will see a big outburst of anger and rage during questioning. Would love to know others posters views.
Yesterday, the meek little librarian went away and morphed into her evil manipulating self. She even admitted to liking the sex she had with JA and was smiling at that.

 

[Liebchenmutti]

Nurmi got Jodi to tell us about the "BodyBug" weight-loss/heart rate monitor thingie that she claims Travis was wearing on his upper right arm--WHY?

I believe it must be duct tape, the same duct tape seen in the evidence photo by the washer since Jodi had an explanation for something that nobody asked her for. That's the only thing that makes any sense to me. Just like the 9mm handgun she bought for "responsible gun ownership" and to take along to ward off gang rape during a panning-for-gold camping trip with a bunch of men. Obvs she was going to use that weapon for something much different.

Jodi does tell the truth! She just doesn't consciously realize her "truth leakage."

This link has one explanation for having the duct tape on his arm:
HERE

The excersize would have meant ripping off the tape, probably while they were on the bed, so this explains how it got tangled up with the bedding and put in the washer/dryer area.

 

[kaki]

Just jumping in here this morning. After watching the trial yesterday and viewing the smirks, smiles and laugh's of JA, I am getting the impression that she will not breakdown on the stand at anytime. I have heard one talking head (can not remember his name) say he thinks she might break down sobbing at some point.
That is not my opinion. My opinion is that if anything we will see a big outburst of anger and rage during questioning. Would love to know others posters views.
Yesterday, the meek little librarian went away and morphed into her evil manipulating self. She even admitted to liking the sex she had with JA and was smiling at that.

Ooohhh..we can only hope we see the rage! Of course i would want to be a safe distance away when that happens! Will it be like in the exorcist when her eyes roll back and her head spins around?

Maybe we will witness what poor Travis saw in his final moments.

 

[Sustained]

The Arias project for the weekend ...

Tell Mom to get hold of the food and beverage manager for Mimi's Cafe in Mesa working on 1/21/08 to tell him to either (1) destroy any time reports for that day or (2) fabricate something in case he/she gets called to testify.

Arias tells Mom to barter with her hand-drawn pics currently selling on Ebay ...

 

[LambChop]

The 2 male lawyers on Dr D made some really good points about how Juan could do better. I really liked both their input. Especially the first guy talking.

IMO, Juan did good today, but everyone could of course improve and I think the part where he could improve the most is to slow down some and after making point A, stop and really hammer it home before jumping to point B.

A good example is the magazines. He had real good evidence there, but then jumped right to something else. I was like....WTH. Why not stop a minute and hammer home one summary statement about trying to manipulate a witness and then end that story line and then go to point B. The problem with not pausing there is we are left to think the stuff with point B has something to do with Point A, so we are waiting and waiting still for the point. And then we break for the weekend and are like WTH. What is the main point.

Sure, we kind of got it, but that to me is an area of huge improvement that could help Juan with the jury.

After seeing Juan on Direct, I realize this is just his style and he probably will not be able to change his style. Maybe he will at least slow down some. He moves so quick.

I don't think style has anything to do with it. It's strategy. Why go over something she is going to continually deny or give a flip answer to? He knows the answers to all the questions. What he is doing is pinning her down to a committed answer on a lie she has told. One-by-one he can call in witnesses to disprove her lies. She lied about cutting her hand and basically said Ryan was lying. She cut her right hand on the glass and that she never told Ryan it was her left. Well, duh, Ryan could see it was her left hand and that is what he testified to. She just lied and got caught. At the end of his cross he will go back over every lie she told, the finger, the lies she told about Travis, etc. and one-by-one will go down that line. She has told too many. Once he gets a committed answer from Jodi he moves on to the next lie. He is very calculating and way too smart for her. I can't believe other attorneys can't see what he is doing. Very, very smart man. I love it. jmo

 

[DEPUTYDAWG]

Im so sick of the bleeding hearts. This is crazy. The women is clearly playing games and talking heads/people are acting like he should treat her like some elderly woman crossing the street. Her attitude proved that she is not some shaking demure afraid of conflict woman. She is in direct contrast to her battered woman sham by getting testy right back, asserting attitude. You would expect that skaing to start the tears, submission. NOPE! she gave it right back and was sassy. I wonder if a man sat there accused of the same crimes against a woman would people feel he should be easy on him. This world is stuck in the 1800's. She is manipulating even the most logical people with her tactics. Its sad to see. Its like only a select few can see the games she's playing and get "it"

What I LOVE is that Juan has had this opportunity to cross her and we see "the other side" (IMO, the "real side") of Jodie right before the DT will bring on their DV expert. Now the jury has seen that Jodie is not a withering, meek person...she can handle her own, and a little more. The jury is going to have a much more difficult time really buying into the poor little victim Jodie that the DV expert is going to try to explain. The timing is great!!!!

Just after one day of cross examination, she has really muddied the Jodie is a victim act.

JMO

 

[MissJ]

Or to quote As Good As It Gets... "Go sell crazy somewhere else.. We're all stocked up here!" LOL :rocker:

:floorlaugh:LOL. Love that line and the movie!:rocker:

 

[Turnadot]

Does anyone know how discovery works? I did look it up, but don't fully understand it. My understanding is that they had to have known about the magazines. What I'm not clear on is whether JM had to tell the defense what they found in the magazines or just simply that the magazines were evidence that the prosecution may submit. Hope this makes sense.

The prosecution had a duty to disclose the magazines as evidence, which they did. It is not their duty to point out its significance.

 

[kscornfed]

After reading TAs last posting to his blog, about what it is he is looking for in a wife, i think it probably had quite an impact on crazy JA. Wonder if that gets brought up. His blog was heartbreaking really.

Another thing, was the defense privy to the magazines? It seemed not. Different rules of evidence I guess.

they knew about the magazines. nothing being introduced is a shock to them. they're stalling, slowing things down and screwing with JM's cross any way they can. and they've told JA to do the same if given something to read. my opinion, but i'd say it's very obvious.

 

[nursebeeme]

I too believe Juan will pull it all together. He went in a few directions I wasn't expecting and picked details I wouldn't expect him to pick to start with, but he obviously knows what he's doing and understands the big picture and all.

I think I'm used to prosecutors who first make big declarative statement/questions, for instance: "Ma'am you LIED and fabricated the story that you said you saw Mr. Alexander masturbating to pictures of little boys on Jan 21st...." and then when she denies it, start backing his way into the details to prove she couldn't be telling the truth because of the time of the calls, the time and content of the txt messages, the evidence not matching what she claimed, the mundane content of their dealings that day. The jury would know exactly where he was going right from the point of his first question on the topic instead of being on a meandering road that veers off in a few places, and he would have established his point right up front.

Instead he was off talking about what time she went to work and then he went off on a tangent about the exact hour she got to work and then he went into her non-memory of that exact time and then he went into cell phone vs landline and it just veered and it was difficult to follow.

I love his method.it is perfect for the scripted Arias.she will never know what is coming next.