Do you think Burke is home from university for Christmas and has been asking his father some tough questions? Maybe Burke is no longer in denial and is feeling some peer pressure?
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Do you think Burke is home from university for Christmas and has been asking his father some tough questions? Maybe Burke is no longer in denial and is feeling some peer pressure?
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I don't know...Really I'm wondering more about the case since we haven't heard anything new...But I pray one day that Burke will be able to tell the truth..But really we don't even know if he does know anything...Now it is odd how fast they got Burke over to the White's..And Burke is the one,that said JonBenet walked in the house on Christmas night...So maybe the R's really didn't know if he heard or saw anthing...
Yes, I am not a Burke did it advocate. He was only nine at the time, just a frail looking little boy. Plus he could be overheard on the 911 call sounding bewildered and asking what was going on. I think he bought the party line for many years and is just now getting the independence of mind to question the story he's been told by his parents. Maybe he's been in therapy for many years and is now strong enough to confront any cognitive dissonance he may have tried to bury. As part of his healing process he may be stirring up things with his father, making his father try to appear as though he is looking for the killer.
25 MIKE KANE: Have you ever been to
1 Coral Gables?
2 JOHN RAMSEY: We were in Coral
3 Gables for the, as a guest of Sun Microsystems
4 for the Superbowl that was played in Miami.
5 They lost. '93, '94, something back in there.
6 MIKE KANE: Did you ever hear of
7 Spy World?
8 JOHN RAMSEY: Well, that came up,
9 and I couldn't remember for sure the name, but I
10 said you know, one of the questions that came up
11 was a stun gun thing, and I know fundamentally
12 what they are. I don't know that I could draw
13 one for you, but I know what they are. And I
14 was curious where you buy one, where would
15 somebody buy something like that. Somebody said
16 spy shop.
17 We were in Coral Gables and I told
18 these guys, I said -- we were in Coral Gables
19 and we were talking about the street and there
20 was this spy shop that we went into and I was
21 curious about if there was a device that you
22 could buy that you could figure out if your
23 phones were tapped. That had been a big concern
24 about gee, there is a lot of stuff going on in
25 our business, and gee what, you know, what if we
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1 are naive and somebody has tapped our phone and
2 really, that could be very damaging to us in
3 other negotiations and so forth.
4 So I went in there specifically
5 asking is there a device like that you can buy
6 and basically the answer I got was no, that's
7 pretty tough to do but do, but here's all the
8 other stuff you can do, and he showed us how you
9 can put bugs in. It's easy to bug something,
10 pretty difficult to find the bug is kind of what
11 I came out of that. It actually made me more
12 worried about what I was worried about.
13 But he gave us a video and said
14 here's a catalog of our stuff and we threw it in
15 our suitcase, we never looked at it, threw it in
16 a drawer, sat there for years. I don't remember
17 when that Superbowl was.
18 LOU SMIT: John, who is we?
19 JOHN RAMSEY: Patsy and I.
20 LOU SMIT: Into the store?
21 JOHN RAMSEY: Yeah, Patsy and I
22 went with, Patsy and I were just together.
23 LOU SMIT: Anybody else with
24 you?
25 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I don't think
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1 so.
2 LOU SMIT: You were with the,
3 what's the name of the --
4 (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS.)
5 JOHN RAMSEY: Well Sun
6 Microsystems was the host, and they had
7 invited us to the Superbowl game that year
8 and they put us in a hotel in Coral
9 Gables.
10 LOU SMIT: So it was just you
11 and Patsy walking together and you just
12 walked by the store?
13 JOHN RAMSEY: I am pretty sure it
14 was just us; yeah, I am sure it was.
15 LOU SMIT: Do you know who
16 else you might have been down there with
17 or that you visited with, because we may
18 want to talk with these people.
19 JOHN RAMSEY: Yes, there's
20 some of the people from Sun Microsystems.
21 A guy named Joe Womack. Stylvan
22 (phonetic) he was there. I am sure
23 (inaudible name). What's his name, Joe
24 Roebuck. He's one of the top people at
25 Sun Microsystems. He was there, we spent
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1 some time with him. There was a group of
2 people, probably 60 people were invited.
3 LOU SMIT: Okay, go ahead.
4 Continue?
5 JOHN RAMSEY: But anyway on
6 that, I mean because we talked about that in
7 first of all, I don't know what was on that tape
8 because we hadn't looked at it. I believe the
9 only reason it didn't tossed into the
10 wastebasket is it made into the drawer first.
11 (INAUDIBLE).
12 MIKE KANE: So you never made any
13 purchases there?
14 JOHN RAMSEY: No.
15 MIKE KANE: You were down there
16 later on?
17 JOHN RAMSEY: No.
18 MIKE KANE: (INAUDIBLE) whatever?
19 JOHN RAMSEY: No.
20 MIKE KANE: Did you ever purchase
21 any other type of security, personal security or
22 you know, that kind of genre of --
23 JOHN RAMSEY: (Shaking head).
24 MIKE KANE: -- product line?
25 JOHN RAMSEY: (Shaking head).
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1 MIKE KANE: -- from them or anybody
2 else?
3 JOHN RAMSEY: No, I don't think
4 so. Not that I remember.
5 MIKE KANE: All right. What did
6 you know at the time I guess Lou talked to you
7 last July about stun guns and what did you know
8 about them at the time?
9 JOHN RAMSEY: I just knew they
10 were an electrical device that emitted a high
11 voltage, low current probably, enough to stop
12 somebody but not kill 'em.
13 MIKE KANE: Have you since that
14 time learned any more about them or done any
15 research into them or made inquiries about them
16 or --
17 JOHN RAMSEY: No. I haven't.
18 MIKE KANE: -- looked to see, I
19 think one of the questions Lou asked you was any
20 of your friends or anybody --
21 JOHN RAMSEY:
22 (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS.)
23 MIKE KANE: Yes, have you followed
24 up on any of that -- I think you might have
25 even mentioned Priscilla or (MULTIPLE SPEAKERS)?
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1 JOHN RAMSEY: That was just
2 speculation. To me it was, I mean, I didn't
3 know how big they are, but it sounded like
4 something that a woman may have in her purse for
5 personal protection. And the people we knew,
6 Priscilla being from California, and kind of --
7 probably more -- she came from an area where
8 you have security issues and so forth. Might
9 have -- you know, if anybody was going to have
10 one, it might be somebody like her. I
11 absolutely don't ever remember her having one.
-June 23rd, 1998
(The finger-pointing at the end is classic. They just can't help themselves it seems.)
First JR makes comments about how suspicious it was for PW to "leave some cracked crab" for JB because she liked it, when HE or Patsy were the ones who asked her to save some for JB.
Then he makes a wildly accusatory statement that if anyone needed to have a stun gun, it was PW because she came from California...
Well, the Rs came from Atlanta- they have their share of crime, too.
What he isn't saying, of course, is that the HE was the one with the stun gun video, not PW.
And yet, he was also the one who inexplicably refused to allow JB to be exhumed and the stun gun issue settled once and for all.
Why? NOT to let her rest in peace, but to keep it forever in doubt because most people would not feel the parents needed to (or would have) used a stun gun on their little girl.
If it had really been a stun gun, that among other things, would have caused that scream. And it could have caused heart failure in someone so small. Now THAT would have been a lot to explain to emergency room doctors. To me, if stun gun use was proven, it still wouldn't rule out the parents as far as I am concerned.
Then he makes a wildly accusatory statement that if anyone needed to have a stun gun, it was PW because she came from California...
Well, the Rs came from Atlanta- they have their share of crime, too.
What he isn't saying, of course, is that the HE was the one with the stun gun video, not PW.
And yet, he was also the one who inexplicably refused to allow JB to be exhumed and the stun gun issue settled once and for all.
Why? NOT to let her rest in peace, but to keep it forever in doubt because most people would not feel the parents needed to (or would have) used a stun gun on their little girl.
If it had really been a stun gun, that among other things, would have caused that scream. And it could have caused heart failure in someone so small. Now THAT would have been a lot to explain to emergency room doctors. To me, if stun gun use was proven, it still wouldn't rule out the parents as far as I am concerned.
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scream followed by head bash to silence her,possibly?
weren't those videos said to be the ones that come with a stun gun purchase??? I recall reading that somewhere.and then later JR said something about it being in spanish,so he couldn't have understood it anyway.but why would someone sell you something with a vid to go with it,in a language you don't understand,at that??? esp. something like a stun gun.. ..there sure is something weird going on there!
weren't those videos said to be the ones that come with a stun gun purchase??? I recall reading that somewhere.and then later JR said something about it being in spanish,so he couldn't have understood it anyway.but why would someone sell you something with a vid to go with it,in a language you don't understand,at that??? esp. something like a stun gun.. ..there sure is something weird going on there!
That's what I think, too. (scream, head bash)