Jose Baez Releasing New Book!!

[A_News_Junkie]

I'm sure those are weasel words that are technically true, but evasive. She may have gotten a lump sum payment to start and then she doesn't get anymore than that. I'm sure there are other ways to do it that would make that comment technically true. It can also be noted that it's not illegal to lie about that anyway.

I will puke if she learned the "foundation" trick from mama. :gasp:

 

[atthelake]

Just catching up after being out of internet posting and catching up...my thoughts on waaaaaaaaaay up on thread (not caught up) is that through a WS member - the mods and Beach etc have a contact with Vinnie Politan and his producer, and have been in contact with them since December, from a fabulous WS member ;>) ....... . I would really really like to see on of the owners or mods be a phone interview or actually on-line (I CRINGE when I say this, but for the greater good) be on Vinnie when the book comes out. They have these contacts - perhaps use them............again, for the GREATER GOOD of highlighting CAYLEE. A consideration/support from others to prompt Beach/Kimster to do? Mods, can you pass along this request to do such. I know that we don't support his book, and Kimster/Beach/other representative could really represent Caylee in this!

 

[watcher9]

I will puke if she learned the "foundation" trick from mama. :gasp:

Wasn't this discussed a long time ago - when all the donations to FCA were coming in according to CM, thousands and thousands of dollars, but FCA is still considered to be indigent for her appeal. Some kind of trust? Now, if it were a foundation, that would have to be filed with the State, right?

 

[gramcracker]

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I agree with the poster who said something about how he could not articulate in the courtroom, if you saw the show the other night, he also had a hard time explaining himself and trying to choose words the right way and could not-it could have been because the camera was right in his face, but he's an old pro now with the cameras, - a deer caught in the headlights. All he is trying to do is reclaim himself, unless there is a threat on the horizon we all don't know about yet. Imo, he should have just kept walking into the sunset.

jeez, re the bold, I LOL'd when he answered someone w/ "there were evidence"

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Wasn't this discussed a long time ago - when all the donations to FCA were coming in according to CM, thousands and thousands of dollars, but FCA is still considered to be indigent for her appeal. Some kind of trust? Now, if it were a foundation, that would have to be filed with the State, right?

Would have to be filed with the state I am almost certain.....but whether it could be in a trustee name or other name, IDK. I also think it could sit in the foundation until such time as the foundation is liquidated and the bylaws would allow for the intended target to get the money????? I just bet, a certain CA or CMA could answer, but maybe ask in the verified lawyer thread. I just ain't a buyin' it for a second, nope --- just not! :seeya:

 

[fancyface]

So excited, cannot wait to read it!

 

[BigMomma]

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jeez, re the bold, I LOL'd when he answered someone w/ "there were evidence"

And now we know the reason why he needed help with writing the book? (Just an off handed guess):floorlaugh:

Jmo, I got a funny feeling JB is also on his way for an appearance on Dr. P. next since he has been in Hollywood and taped Dr. D there, the 2 studios are right close to each other:banghead:

 

[atthelake]

So excited, cannot wait to read it!

I see you are new, welcome to WS! When you read it, let us know of hightlights to share as many of us will not read it.

I've come back from a 14 day hiatus - and did not view the show that is being discussed - rather - spent time with family.

Speaking of family, :grouphug: to Tulessa and Bayouland

 

[atthelake]

Just my two cents. On June 16th @ 7:45p.m., Casey and Tony were at Blockbuster renting a movie. No Caylee in sight. I think she was dead at this time or dying in the trunk. The next day was when she was seen backed into the garage by the next door neighbor.

I also think it is possible she was murdered on the 15th after the fight between Casey and Cindy.

JMO.

I was traveling to NYC/DC to visit friends - and brought the case up to only one of the 5 families that I was visiting. They saidthey thought it was an accident.............I didn't go into my knowledge with them :banghead::banghead: As they say, I was just doing a "mother in law survey" but didn't want to go into it. Pehaps I was wrong to not enlighten them with my knowledge, but for those that don't know what we do, it was just not the right time. I'm sorry Caylee that I didn't do such, and off to light a candle for you. I will do such next time and opportunity as I now feel that I have failed you for that person to know the story, and perhaps share with other.

 

[atthelake]

Catching up on thread..........still behind on reading the "show notes" D**M, I say this quote by the host.......but they aren't schooled to know what it means and I really wish that they were educated as it was so close to bring up her posts..........

PINSKY: The cover-up. The cover-up is what made -- by the way, when somebody lies and lies --........I just recall all of her facebook posts.........one of which was I think........."everybody lies, everybody dies"......and my one thing that sticks was that post of the hovering over a skeleton/chinese picture....... That now can come out?

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1205/14/ddhln.01.html

 

[logicalgirl]

I was traveling to NYC/DC to visit friends - and brought the case up to only one of the 5 families that I was visiting. They saidthey thought it was an accident.............I didn't go into my knowledge with them :banghead::banghead: As they say, I was just doing a "mother in law survey" but didn't want to go into it. Pehaps I was wrong to not enlighten them with my knowledge, but for those that don't know what we do, it was just not the right time. I'm sorry Caylee that I didn't do such, and off to light a candle for you. I will do such next time and opportunity as I now feel that I have failed you for that person to know the story, and perhaps share with other.

Wow you are a better person than I - I would have just quietly asked for some clarification - which part was an accident - JB's OS and malicious accusations about George? Cindy committing perjury on the stand? Caylee found tossed triple bagged in a swamp with duct covering her mouth and nose? Or was it that FCA pretended she both had a job and that Caylee was with the Nanny? Or did you mean Caylee's death was an acccident so no blame attached so FCA didn't need to break her stride and miss her date with TonyL that night?

See what I mean? A much better person than I am. Cause those were fighting words especially coming from family.

 

[logicalgirl]

I was just reading everyone's comments and just had a "click" when Baez talks about "things that went on in families - this family wasn't like other families"....no of course they weren't and we know all about it.

Not many families have a daughter who pretends to have a job but then steals money from her mother, grandmother and grandfather to support her cellphone and shopping habits. Not many families have a daughter who pretends to work and expects her mother who does work and works full time to be the primary caregiver for her child's wellbeing, the list goes on and on. Yeah, they are a different family alright.

And particularly not many families have a daughter who kills her child, duct tapes and triple bags her,tosses her remains in a swamp and then drives around with her body in the trunk of her car while she keeps her dates with the flavour of the month.

 

[logicalgirl]

..... :slapfight: ....:moo: ...... :banghead: ........ fftobed:........

 

[atthelake]

Wow you are a better person than I - I would have just quietly asked for some clarification - which part was an accident - JB's OS and malicious accusations about George? Cindy committing perjury on the stand? Caylee found tossed triple bagged in a swamp with duct covering her mouth and nose? Or was it that FCA pretended she both had a job and that Caylee was with the Nanny? Or did you mean Caylee's death was an acccident so no blame attached so FCA didn't need to break her stride and miss her date with TonyL that night?

See what I mean? A much better person than I am. Cause those were fighting words especially coming from family.

No, LG, I am not a better person than you - I avoided confrontation/discussion and I am :blushing: for not doing what you have stated. I lit a candle for Caylee, and I am ashamed. I was in New York City, and visiting a distant relative - and didn't want to discuss/heated discussion. Again, I'm ashamed. I was too focused on primary bonding with "lost" family vs. standing up for Caylee.

 

[atthelake]

..... :slapfight: ....:moo: ...... :banghead: ........ fftobed:........

Thanks for the slap! You are right that I didn't take advantage of taking the time to educate one person that may have communicated to others. Jeez, this could be a thread of it's own perhaps. I too will go to bed and have dreams of how I could have addressed this - but it just didn't fit into the discussion I thought..............so I need to think more how to do such to educate others without being confrontational.

:hug: and thanks!

 

[bayouland]

I was traveling to NYC/DC to visit friends - and brought the case up to only one of the 5 families that I was visiting. They saidthey thought it was an accident.............I didn't go into my knowledge with them :banghead::banghead: As they say, I was just doing a "mother in law survey" but didn't want to go into it. Pehaps I was wrong to not enlighten them with my knowledge, but for those that don't know what we do, it was just not the right time. I'm sorry Caylee that I didn't do such, and off to light a candle for you. I will do such next time and opportunity as I now feel that I have failed you for that person to know the story, and perhaps share with other.

Welcome back from your trip!

JMO but I think it is normal to not want to cause a confrontation about this case, which it seems like you wanted to avoid.

You have not failed Caylee. Not at all. Please stop beating yourself up.:blowkiss:

 

[bayouland]

I see you are new, welcome to WS! When you read it, let us know of hightlights to share as many of us will not read it.

I've come back from a 14 day hiatus - and did not view the show that is being discussed - rather - spent time with family.

Speaking of family, :grouphug: to Tulessa and Bayouland

Hugs right back at you!!!!! Missed you!!!!

 

[MaryB]

I was just reading everyone's comments and just had a "click" when Baez talks about "things that went on in families - this family wasn't like other families"....no of course they weren't and we know all about it.

Not many families have a daughter who pretends to have a job but then steals money from her mother, grandmother and grandfather to support her cellphone and shopping habits. Not many families have a daughter who pretends to work and expects her mother who does work and works full time to be the primary caregiver for her child's wellbeing, the list goes on and on. Yeah, they are a different family alright.

And particularly not many families have a daughter who kills her child, duct tapes and triple bags her,tosses her remains in a swamp and then drives around with her body in the trunk of her car while she keeps her dates with the flavour of the month.

This is so true and I agree with every part of your statement. I read a very interesting article from the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/m...a-9-year-old-a-psychopath.html?pagewanted=all

And it hit me that The Anthonys probably knew something was wrong with CA when she was young, but didn't know she was a psychopath. So many traits of the the child in the article reminded me of CA. This whole family tiptoes around their son just like The Anthonys tiptoed around Casey making sure to never confront her of her fake job and fake nanny or ever upset her in fear of her temper tantrums. In this case the family was wise enough to test their son over and over again because they knew something wasn't right.

The boy in the article demanded and took what he wanted, but as he got older he used lies and manipulation to get what he wanted. The doctors making up the study said psychopaths will do ANYTHING to get what they want, ANYTHING. So even though the jurors could not fathom a woman would kill her child to go out with her boyfriend, it's a real fact that it's reasonable in a psychopath's mind to kill her child to go on a date.

I just hope CA never kills another child again because as a former CA juror, I don't think I could ever live with the guilt that my choice (which only took 1 day by the way and without ever looking at one shred on evidence) was the key facror in murdering a human being.

 

[Hope4More]

MaryB- Thanks for the NYT link--I just read the article and it was fascinating.

How awful for a normal parent to have such a child (the mom seems normal, anyway), and how awful for the rest for us if an equally whacked mother is raising such a child. The Ants come marching, and all that.

 

[watcher9]

This is so true and I agree with every part of your statement. I read a very interesting article from the NYT:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/m...a-9-year-old-a-psychopath.html?pagewanted=all

And it hit me that The Anthonys probably knew something was wrong with CA when she was young, but didn't know she was a psychopath. So many traits of the the child in the article reminded me of CA. This whole family tiptoes around their son just like The Anthonys tiptoed around Casey making sure to never confront her of her fake job and fake nanny or ever upset her in fear of her temper tantrums. In this case the family was wise enough to test their son over and over again because they knew something wasn't right.

The boy in the article demanded and took what he wanted, but as he got older he used lies and manipulation to get what he wanted. The doctors making up the study said psychopaths will do ANYTHING to get what they want, ANYTHING. So even though the jurors could not fathom a woman would kill her child to go out with her boyfriend, it's a real fact that it's reasonable in a psychopath's mind to kill her child to go on a date.

I just hope CA never kills another child again because as a former CA juror, I don't think I could ever live with the guilt that my choice (which only took 1 day by the way and without ever looking at one shred on evidence) was the key facror in murdering a human being.

BBM
The article was very interesting.

Are you saying that you were a juror in FCA's trial or are you posing an "if I were" statement?