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Kentucky - Judge killed, sheriff arrested in Letcher County courthouse shooting - Sep. 19, 2024 # 2
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Agreed !
It certainly does. Imo.
Rbm.
Good catch, @jlo6161a :
Hmmm...
I have watched the blue-tinted "video-within-a-video" ; the one that was released first.
And also the clearer one with the cuts/edits.
I didn't see a phone light up or appear to be ringing (yes the sound is off for both) ?
Will check again.
Omo.
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The last time the Letcher County bailiffs were reported in MSM was in 2019 following Stines election as County Sheriff.
While Fields replaced Stines as Mullins bailiff, he was terminated from the force in Feb 2022 for conduct unbecoming, Unknown if Enfusse still serves as bailiff for the Circuit Court Judge.
From the Fox56 affiliate out of KY ; it doesn't look like the call came in until about 3/4 of the way into the shooting ?
What do we (collectively as WSs) know about workplace shootings? Setting aside the spectacle of the courthouse as a setting, and also setting aside the alleged perpetrator (Sheriff) and the victim (judge)?
Don’t these shootings generally arise as workplace disputes? In general, do they not have loss of job as a motive?
What might have motivated MS to execute KM?
Don’t these shootings generally arise as workplace disputes? In general, do they not have loss of job as a motive?
What might have motivated MS to execute KM?
Why No Immed. Response to Gunfire?
IIRC w'in a few days of shooting, a reporter interviewed someone who had been in the bldg, who said it was hard to tell where the gunfire occurred and some/many ppl exited the bldg. Story was linked here, but I can't find ATM.
^ That's from my hazy recall. ^ Welcoming clarification or correction.
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IIRC w'in a few days of shooting, a reporter interviewed someone who had been in the bldg, who said it was hard to tell where the gunfire occurred and some/many ppl exited the bldg. Story was linked here, but I can't find ATM.
^ That's from my hazy recall. ^ Welcoming clarification or correction.
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Ty, @al66pine .
Yet again another deceitful and incomplete article from the DM! A thorough reporter would have told us what sauces they each ordered for their wings. You can tell a lot about a man from his wing sauce preference
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I don't think either of these men and/or their positions necessarily fall in the category of workplace shootings, given they are both elected, County officials. JMO
Was there not a shooting in the workplace? I’m not sure how being an elected official would play in here to make this not a point with which to contend, but I am open to hear your thoughts.
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Video of Kentucky judge's death shown at court hearing for the ex-sheriff charged in the case
Video showing a Kentucky judge being gunned down in his chambers was played at a court hearing for the ex-sheriff charged with the murder.
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“Stamper said he was told Stines had tried to call his daughter on his phone and the judge’s phone. He said police confirmed Stines’ daughter’s phone number was on the judge’s phone.”
Now I’m just confused- per this article the daughters phone number WAS in the judge’s phone- do we know which is true?
Or is this just an outdated article?
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That article is dated October 1st. I would assume the more recent information released is accurate, especially since it is being presented as a correction.
Video of Kentucky judge's death shown at court hearing for the ex-sheriff charged in the case
Video showing a Kentucky judge being gunned down in his chambers was played at a court hearing for the ex-sheriff charged with the murder.
“Stamper said he was told Stines had tried to call his daughter on his phone and the judge’s phone. He said police confirmed Stines’ daughter’s phone number was on the judge’s phone.”
Now I’m just confused- per this article the daughters phone number WAS in the judge’s phone- do we know which is true?
Or is this just an outdated article?
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Thank you- it caught my eye and I didn’t double check dates in between storm prep- I was confused, thank you for the clarification-
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I guess I'm of the mind of OSHA workplace violence, and workplace shooting defined as a mass shooting that occurs at a workplace, where a shooter targets co-workers, usually an employee or former employee. See the stats for "workplace shooter" in the link. Perhaps OP will/will not find them applicable to this case.
VOA Special Report | History of mass shooters | Workplace shootings
Workplaces were the most common sites for mass shootings, at 31%
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Good to see you here @riolove77. It's been a while!
Op has read the reference. And op still finds it applicable.I guess I'm of the mind of OSHA workplace violence, and workplace shooting defined as a mass shooting that occurs at a workplace, where a shooter targets co-workers, usually an employee or former employee. See the stats for "workplace shooter" in the link. Perhaps OP will/will not find them applicable to this case.
VOA Special Report | History of mass shooters | Workplace shootings
Workplaces were the most common sites for mass shootings, at 31%
I see it as well! I wonder if it's an alarm? After all, judge had his robe on, so it appears he might've needed to be somewhere shortly after lunch.
Indeed.
I'm amazed (& not necessarily in a good way !) that the video of the shooting was released.
Wow.
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