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I agree that there was no new details given, but here is a summary.
Hope it makes sense.
Summary of Nancy Grace podcast:
Guests:
Kim Martin - effort to find Lucas with Missing pieces network
Karen Smith - forensic expert
Ashley Willcot - juvenile judge, founder of child crime watch
Dr. Chloe Carmichael - founder goal attainment, New York psychologist
Chuck Roberts - Crime stories investigative reporter
Kim:
The moment he disappeared is up for debate..
Emily was napping 3pm & woke up contacted police 6:14pm
Chuck:
Just moved into new home 10 days earlier - Lucas would have been unfamiliar with area
Step mother EG is 26
Shoes & coat still at home, unusually warm that day
May have gone outside on his own accord
School teachers a very sweet boy
Kim (on the topic of the search):
Police, swat team, canvassing neighbourhood
Early on they said it was not an abduction, there was no sign of any one in house or sign that anyone removed Lucas.
Chuck:
No forced entry etc. Canvassed neighbourhood - no strangers
Kansas police recording (Charlie):
Officers & K-9 units checked home and neighbourhood with no luck of Lucas
Karen:
Gives advice that EGs associates and cell phone records should be looked at.
Rear door apparently open? Should take DNA swabs, finger prints.
Ashley:
Check for footprints and marks on windows/doors.
Chuck:
No sightings of Lucas since disappearance.
Dr Chloe:
Moving is one of the top 5 stressful events (NG) Dr. Chloe agrees; it poses emotional stress, poses cognitive stress.
Blended families - issues of anger, possessiveness
Where does loyalty lie?
Moving can cause a psychological storm (looking through photos etc.)
Kim:
Dad (JH), left for work on the 9th, worked 20 days on 10 days off, previously worked in Texas, switched to working in NM and works on oil rig.
Mom- last time in Kansas Jan. 1, lives in Oklahoma, she is devastated and in Wichita now.
(NG making it about herself[emoji849]/sympathising)....
Rumours, blame being thrown
Family being harassed, threatened, had to step back from searches
TOPIC = FINDING LUCAS
Karen (on the topic of neighbours):
Talks about sexual predators
NG mentions - LUCAS WARRIORS
Chuck:
Step mom is the live in girlfriend
More than a year together - not a step mother
Ashley:
Step mother? She says no.
Chloe:
It takes a special person to be committed to someone elses children..
Kim:
EG has two older children -does not have custody of.
EG & Johnathan have a 1 year old daughter
Two older children - older than Lucas.. no specific age given.
They live with their father.
1 year old girl - napping with EG at time of Lucas going missing....
Lucas brown hair brown eyes, 4ft tall,
EG said 60lbs, actually 38-40lbs...
Ashley:
Red flag... she didnt know weight, purposely lied? 38lbs is small for height.
NG - child extremely malnourished
NG - Last seen wearing black sweats, white socks, grey shirt with bear
Chuck:
Bruise on face. Not sure if police have connected that with case.
Lucas told family EG threw water in his face, kicked him, and EG was mean to him
Recording of Great aunt sally:
Multiple bruises on face and neck
Police didnt think there was enough evidence..
(NG)Great grandmother stated:
Lucas was kicked and EG dragged him across room (reported concerns)
Kim:
Four or five people reported suspected abuse, from Lucas fathers family and bio moms family.
JH - unfounded, EG did not abuse.
16 photos. (Break your heart)
All over Lucas body.
Emily hurts me
Called her Emily not step mom
Ashley:
Repeated bruises = different story.. intentional abuse.
System fail
System failed Lucas.. multiple reports etc.
Karen:
Check where bruises are located, old and new bruises? Abuse for a period of time
System failed Lucas
Should have been removed from home
Patterns to bruises?
Hand marks or objects?
(Kansas police - Gavin - 2 separate accounts of child endangerment) - recording being played.
Chuck:
What led to arrests:
Day before disappearance:
Took 1 year old to OG, later admitted to JH, she smoke a couple of bowls of marijuana, left him because he was sick and didnt want to wake him up.
NG:
Step mom - requested a bond reduction..
Kim:
Find Lucas.. 99% sure recovery effort sadly
Doesnt think anyone will pay until Lucas is found.
Area = vast, rural and a lot of private property
Need land owners to search
A lot of land to cover
Kim:
Landlord, saw Lucas peeking through window at 5:30pm on 16th. LAST VISUAL.
Consented to search of home, found texts (Facebook messenger) between her and JH, police say - glass was going to smoke and go to OG, use gift card
Made two calls
Kim:
No reason to believe boy made it through the night (her opinion)
Emily came home
LH made comment on landlord
She snapped..
Lashed out at him
Been sick for two or three weeks
Think it killed him..
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