Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #15 *Arrest*

[Charliegizmo49]

I can't stress this enough and I can't understand why we are still questioning this? We have our window.

i think it’s reasonable to question everything in this case. This forum is just not the place to do it because of the rules we abide by.

No no one has verified EGs relationship with anyone here except for JH. While we can’t verbalize it here LE has looked into it and have a pretty accurate view.

At some point it will be revealed at trial. Until then the prosecutor is waiting for the best information he/she can assemble in order to charge anyone.

 

[Charliegizmo49]

If you are referring to the fact that the LL seen Lucas on the 16th possibly being mistaken, I don't think so. For one, our VI's have continuously told us that this is true. Also, while it could be possible for someone, like the LL, to get dates wrong, I don't think that is likely in this instance. EG had only been living at that house for 9 days on Feb. 16th. If they moved in on the 7th, which was a Wednesday, there would only be two Fridays to choose from, both would be days that someone would remember. For example, the first Friday, which was the 9th of Feb. would be memorable because it was immediately after they moved in. The next Friday is the only other Friday that they lived in the house and it was the day before Lucas came up missing. Logically it doesn't make sense for the LL to mix the days up unless the guy has Alzheimer's. So I think it's safe to say that there is a less then 24 hour time period for Lucas's disappearance.

As for Valentine's day, I wonder if EG dropped Lucas off at the park by himself? Maybe that's where the tip came from? Maybe someone remembered seeing Lucas at the park that day and called it in. I don't put it past EG to do something like that.

I can’t argue that point with you here. Just suffice it to say I have seen people make mistakes about everything. Take a witness to an accident. Three witnesses have three differing versions. None are lying but view it from three different perspectives. When trying to determine the truth you have to look at hard physical evidence and less so on witness statements.

Its not not something I can argue on WS. it’s just good to leave some things open until the facts are revealed in court. Mostly I am very cautious not to hurt the family. They are dealing with one of the most painful situations possible- the unknown. And I will not contribute one second if pain to them in any manner.

 

[Steelslady]

Perhaps he had new bruises/injuries to explain away. If she claimed he was with JO, she would be "innocent" of inflicting them.

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But JH was already in NM working, so he wouldn't have seen the new bruises from Valentine's Day.

 

[seekingtruth79]

i think it’s reasonable to question everything in this case. This forum is just not the place to do it because of the rules we abide by.

No no one has verified EGs relationship with anyone here except for JH. While we can’t verbalize it here LE has looked into it and have a pretty accurate view.

At some point it will be revealed at trial. Until then the prosecutor is waiting for the best information he/she can assemble in order to charge anyone.

Forgive me if I come across rude. You give the impression you know more than our VI’s..I believe them. Where are you getting your info? MOO

 

[newmember]

http://www.kwch.com/content/news/St...pear-in-court-Monday-afternoon-475174883.html


"A majority of the time when he had gotten hurt and ended up with bruises, he wasn't under my care because I would send him off with my cousins

It also gives me pause about her claiming that the bruises came from when she sent him to her cousins. Blaming them, of course, for his bruises, but......how often did she" send Lucas away" with these cousins and why? Did she keep the baby with her, or did she go, too? Did he go to the cousins house for Valentine's Day while she had her own fun? If so, why lie and claim JO had him that day? If not the cousins, then where was he really?

Also, why would this be significant to his being missing four days later, especially since it is confirmed that the landlord saw him the day before when EG was out at Olive Garden with the baby? Why is this important? Let's just say for one moment, he did go with his bio Mom for the day on Valentine's Day- what exactly does that prove, especially since he went missing three days later? Obviously, she's trying to set up JO as being around that area when he went missing, but doesn't she realize that she was going to get caught in this lie? Some of us know another lie that was spread around about that day, which is another impossible scenario- so there's two lies told from the same family.

EXACTLY. im not claiming EG is a criminal mastermind but why would she say something that is so blatantly untrue and easy to disprove? it feels like theres something to this, like EG is determined to fit JO into her narrative even it makes no sense, and somehow connects to the 16th, imo.

 

[Paddleboarder]

I know I have to be respectful and careful here but I have always questioned in my opinion only the length of time Lucas has truly been missing. To be clear people make honest mistakes and then sometimes are deliberately misled. And like EG TELL FLAT OUT MISTRUTHS. LE will sort it out.

I feel very very sad for Lucas family. By this time they have a pretty good idea who did what and maybe. Who helped who. My intuition and my opinion is that Lucas is going to be located a very far distance from Wichita. I’m pretty sure EG HAD HELP and LE has a good idea who it may have been. It’s sad it has to be a waiting game at this point. My deepest respect for the family who loved and truly cared for Lucas. I’m sorry there is true evil in this world and good innocent people are forced to address it.

Why are you questioning the amount of time that he has been missing and what makes you think he is far from Wichita (also, what’s your definition of “far”?

 

[Paddleboarder]

Yes but REMEMBER ALL JAIL CALLS ARE MOST LIKELY RECORDED AND MONITORED BY CORRECTIONAL Officers Or LAW ENFORCEMENT. another excellent tool. There is a good reason for EG to be where she is and with a single method for communication.

They also correspond using an internal email system.

 

[Paddleboarder]

Reminders:

Please, everyone, take a deep breath and think before you post. There is no need to "shout" at other posters. Everyone is angry about EG, but we do not need to take our anger out on other posters here.

It has not been confirmed that EG had help with disappearing Lucas. If she did, in a strange way that might be a good thing for the investigation, because the only way to keep a secret is to keep it completely to yourself. If even one other person was involved in Lucas' disappearance, then there is a chance that the person will talk or otherwise reveal Lucas' location.

Do any sleuthing you wish to on your own, but here on the forum, do not try to sleuth who might have helped EG. Again, we do not have official confirmation that she had help and we do not have a name for a potential accomplice at this point.

Thank you!

 

[Paddleboarder]

I can't stress this enough and I can't understand why we are still questioning this? We have our window.

Yes, we do

 

[Busylady]

Some of them knew the missing 5-year-old, like his neighbors Logan and Broke Austin.
“He’s kind of funny, pretty friendly, kind of shy sometimes,” Logan said.
His mother said she saw the boy and his stepmother just days before he disappeared.
Drugs suspected in child endangerment case
“He came over with the little brother,” she said. “I did shake Emily Glass’ hand. We discussed him coming over and playing with the dog.”

http://www.kake.com/story/37685036/vigil-held-for-lucas-hernandez

 

[Paddleboarder]

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EG told JH that JO picked up LH on VD. (Imagine someone not familiar with this thread trying to figure out the initials!). When pressed later for further details, EG was unable to give JH any details or times about the alleged Valentine&#8217;s Day visit with JO. That&#8217;s because it was a fabrication. JO did not see Lucas on Valentine&#8217;s Day. As a matter of fact, neither JO nor her side of the family new the address of where they had moved until after Luke went missing and EG texted it to a family member.

 

[GigTu]

Some of them knew the missing 5-year-old, like his neighbors Logan and Broke Austin.
&#8220;He&#8217;s kind of funny, pretty friendly, kind of shy sometimes,&#8221; Logan said.
His mother said she saw the boy and his stepmother just days before he disappeared.
Drugs suspected in child endangerment case
&#8220;He came over with the little brother,&#8221; she said. &#8220;I did shake Emily Glass&#8217; hand. We discussed him coming over and playing with the dog.&#8221;

http://www.kake.com/story/37685036/vigil-held-for-lucas-hernandez

Little brother?

 

[Busylady]

Little brother?

I am assuming she means the little one year not realizing the child was a girl.

 

[DakotaMayi]

i think it’s reasonable to question everything in this case. This forum is just not the place to do it because of the rules we abide by.

No no one has verified EGs relationship with anyone here except for JH. While we can’t verbalize it here LE has looked into it and have a pretty accurate view.

At some point it will be revealed at trial. Until then the prosecutor is waiting for the best information he/she can assemble in order to charge anyone.

What are you talking about? My post, that you quoted, was about believing that we have a solid sighting on Friday 16th. Which we do, our VI’s have said so.

Please do not quote me to argue me about something I did not even mention. (EG’s relationships)


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[Paddleboarder]

So, Id assume someone close to her, a girlfriend, would know her side life? I have never ever known a person that had an affair and didn’t tell at least 1 friend. MOO


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IMO (not as a VI), I think EG needed attention from a man -any man - when JH was out of town. I’m not convinced she was involved in a long-term affair.

 

[ESO]

EXACTLY. im not claiming EG is a criminal mastermind but why would she say something that is so blatantly untrue and easy to disprove? it feels like theres something to this, like EG is determined to fit JO into her narrative even it makes no sense, and somehow connects to the 16th, imo.

I came across a case in my research about a girl named Marina Sabatier. When she was reported missing, her dad said she had Down Syndrome. The problem with that is Marina did not have it. The reason he said that his daughter had it was because he had beaten her so severely, it was to the point where it actually changed her appearance. His logic was that he knew if she were found, none of her pictures would match the way she looked when she disappeared. He wasn’t concerned with the fact it could be so easily disproved, that was the least of his worries.


What she looked like before

What she looked like when just before she disappeared.

Picture credits
http://www.angelizdsplace.com/child293.htm


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[Amonet]

If EG was already thinking about Jamie on VD, does that suggest that El Dorado could be where EG would go if she is trying to put the blame for everything onto Jamie?

I take it that EG wouldn't have a day-to-day knowledge of Jamie's whereabouts, so is that the place she'd most associate with Jamie or are there any other locations within our target distance where she might think it would be associated with Jamie?

 

[ESO]

They also correspond using an internal email system.

Those are all monitored.


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[kkdj]

I came across a case in my research about a girl named Marina Sabatier. When she was reported missing, her dad said she had Down Syndrome. The problem with that is Marina did not have it. The reason he said that his daughter had it was because he had beaten her so severely, it was to the point where it actually changed her appearance. His logic was that he knew if she were found, none of her pictures would match the way she looked when she disappeared. He wasn’t concerned with the fact it could be so easily disproved, that was the least of his worries.


What she looked like before

What she looked like when just before she disappeared.

Picture credits
http://www.angelizdsplace.com/child293.htm


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That hurts! :tantrum:

 

[kidetect22]

If EG was already thinking about Jamie on VD, does that suggest that El Dorado could be where EG would go if she is trying to put the blame for everything onto Jamie?

I take it that EG wouldn't have a day-to-day knowledge of Jamie's whereabouts, so is that the place she'd most associate with Jamie or are there any other locations within our target distance where she might think it would be associated with Jamie?

I think you could be onto something ...