Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #16 *Arrest*

[Kamm5]

Should we email KWCH you would think they would check it out before they shared

 

[chihuahua]

I now have confirmation that it is *not* Jonathan that signed the contract with the PI. The person who says they signed it is not family and inserted themselves into the situation after Lucas went missing. This person is not a part of any organization that handles missing children or situations like this. The person started the and has direct access to it. They say money cannot be sent directly to the PI and must go to them.

While I trust the LE and searchers will find lucas, I'm ok with the idea of hiring a PI. However, I have *major* concerns with this person (and anyone not from a reputable organization) handling any money associated with Lucas.

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Thank you for this very important info and hope you are taking good care of yourself FLA.
I don't want to give to someone who isn't necessarily going to make a proper account of the money.
Chi

 

[dixiegirl1035]

You have got to be kidding me.
Although, if it's true that he just found out about EG being pregnant when we did...

I may have missed it, but the way you worded it, we don't have any idea here how and when he learned... is that correct?

Did VI or msm or ? Give that information and I missed It? ( I also must have missed what everyone is talking about Valentine's Day. I don't remember seeing the original post and I went searching and searching and cannot find out what happened on Valentine's Day and who said what.)

 

[chihuahua]

I may have missed it, but the way you worded it, we don't have any idea here how and when he learned... is that correct?

Did VI or mms or ? Give that information and I missed It? ( I also must have missed what everyone is talking about Valentine's Day. I don't remember seeing the original post and I went searching and searching and cannot find out what happened on Valentine's Day and who said what.)

EG being pregnant?
Yes PB gave that info to us first.
Excuse me if I didn't answer your question the way I should have. I got zero sleep from being on call and having to talk a manic person down all night and find shelter for them :deepbreaths:

 

[dixiegirl1035]

So the goal of $28,000 has to be reached before they hire them? I checked out the web site and it says:

Investigative Rate

$95 Per Hour

Missing Persons

It doesn't say anything about requiring that much money up front. I wonder where that came from.

I also noticed on their website in the missing persons area that they have a also for missing persons as they only charge expenses and not their normal fees.

 

[Hatfield]

JMO
This is sounding more and more like the Deorr case with the PI.

I wonder if this is starting to show hints of a lack of cooperation with LE.

 

[chihuahua]

JMO
This is sounding more and more like the Deorr case with the PI.

I wonder if this is starting to show hints of a lack of cooperation with LE.

Exactly and nauseatingly so...
I do think it shows a lack of cooperation.
:moo:

 

[dixiegirl1035]

EG being pregnant?
Yes PB gave that info to us first.
Excuse me if I didn't answer your question the way I should have. I got zero sleep from being on call and having to talk a manic person down all night and find shelter for them :deepbreaths:

I did find that PB gave us the information of her being pregnant. I did not know who gave us the information about when J found out. And I can't find the original information on what happened on Valentine's Day

 

[DakotaMayi]

I did find that PB gave us the information of her being pregnant. I did not know who gave us the information about when J found out. And I can't find the original information on what happened on Valentine's Day

We don't know yet when JH found out.

 

[PommyMommy]

I did find that PB gave us the information of her being pregnant. I did not know who gave us the information about when J found out. And I can't find the original information on what happened on Valentine's Day

EG told JH that Lucas was with JO on Valentine's Day. I'll look for the post.

JMO

ETA: Thread 15, page 63, post 936 by PB

 

[ESO]

Curious to see method and distance of disposal in other pregnant stepmother POI cases.

Eta: ESO, anyone pregnant on your list? Of course, a common link such as pregnancy obviously doesn't guarantee any kind of similarity disposal wise, but for research and analysis purposes...plus you never know...

So back to water then MsF, Pink and I, etc talked about this early on... Water, womb connection? not sure I buy it but we shall see. moo.

My guess right now is roadside /field/side road or over a bridge.
(Or abandoned shed, barn....etc etc)....sigh.

Hhhmmm.....don’t know but I will have to see. I know of cases where SM/BM was pregnant but they didn’t do the whole hide the body and claim kidnapping thing.


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[Jewels53]

Woh woh woh! I kinda expected that but still, shocking.

What an awful thing for them to do. I don't trust JH regardless, so I would not have donated to him directly either but I knew something was off about this. But how can people do this? This is a case of a missing child, not about them getting some cash.

Thanks FLA for the update.

I have stayed away from here (thread) since this news came out, cause I just didn't know what to think. My mind has been wandering, is Lucas deceased or is someone hiding him why haven't searchers found him. What has really been going on. I am not asking anyone these questions, these are just things rattling in my head.

Now the news that JH didn't hire the PI that someone else inserted themselves I feel a little better. I am like you Ana I just don't trust JH! Sorry for rattling off of your post.

Thanks FLA for the new information. Hugs to you and your family, I am so sorry that you are having to endure all of this extra drama on top of losing Lucas!

 

[Kadoober]

I have been SO busy with work and life, I don't even know how far behind I am at this point, and will surely never catch up, as I'm just popping on for a few here.

Is EG currently pregnant? Am I reading that right?

TIA.

 

[DakotaMayi]

I have been SO busy with work and life, I don't even know how far behind I am at this point, and will surely never catch up, as I'm just popping on for a few here.

Is EG currently pregnant? Am I reading that right?

TIA.

Yes ma'am. Unfortunately, you did.

 

[dixiegirl1035]

EG told JH that Lucas was with JO on Valentine's Day. I'll look for the post.

JMO

ETA: Thread 15, page 63, post 936 by PB

Thanks! It is now post 851 peehaps due to thread clean up..bringing it forward here...the post by pb for those that also may have missed ...

"EG told JH that JO picked up LH on VD. (Imagine someone not familiar with this thread trying to figure out the initials!). When pressed later for further details, EG was unable to give JH any details or times about the alleged Valentine’s Day visit with JO. That’s because it was a fabrication. JO did not see Lucas on Valentine’s Day. As a matter of fact, neither JO nor her side of the family new the address of where they had moved until after Luke went missing and EG texted it to a family member."

 

[Kadoober]

Yes ma'am. Unfortunately, you did.

Pardon me. But HOLY CRAP.
I don't even know what to say.

I can't believe Lucas hasn't been found yet.

 

[Tippy Lynn]

I now have confirmation that it is *not* Jonathan that signed the contract with the PI. The person who says they signed it is not family and inserted themselves into the situation after Lucas went missing. This person is not a part of any organization that handles missing children or situations like this. The person started the and has direct access to it. They say money cannot be sent directly to the PI and must go to them.

While I trust the LE and searchers will find lucas, I'm ok with the idea of hiring a PI. However, I have *major* concerns with this person (and anyone not from a reputable organization) handling any money associated with Lucas.

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I’m sorry FLA, my heart aches for you. This is the kind of stuff you shouldn’t have to be dealing with. Sadly, it seems as though it’s one thing after the next and I’m sure there’s way more going on that you know and we don’t. Prayers to you and for finding Lucas.

 

[1&2&3]

Another reason why JH still feels so protective towards her...jmo

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This may be why JH is standing by her, however, has he ever thought that it may not be his? The way he traveled and was home so little, I just don’t think EG was sitting home caring for two children. JMO.

We’ve heard about neighbors seeing her smoking outside with a guy, so who is this guy? He might just be a friend who helped her move. But there could be another man in her life.

Could the reason Lucas is missing be because he caught EG with another man in the house, possibly kissing him? Lucas said he was going to tell Daddy? This had to have happened at the apartment.

Lucas disappearing, EG being pregnant, there is a connection I think.

My opinions only.

 

[Mama3boys]

It's never been verified who was smoking with E.G. but the kids were all there, even Lucas so Lucas and the other children saw him there. There was speculation that it was E.G. ex, her boys dad. But was that really the case? Not saying they may or may not be involved. I'm just curious as to who that would have been..

 

[PommyMommy]

Thanks! It is now post 851 peehaps due to thread clean up..bringing it forward here...the post by pb for those that also may have missed ...

"EG told JH that JO picked up LH on VD. (Imagine someone not familiar with this thread trying to figure out the initials!). When pressed later for further details, EG was unable to give JH any details or times about the alleged Valentine’s Day visit with JO. That’s because it was a fabrication. JO did not see Lucas on Valentine’s Day. As a matter of fact, neither JO nor her side of the family new the address of where they had moved until after Luke went missing and EG texted it to a family member."

Thank you for the correction and for bringing this forward. :blushing:

JMO