KY KY - Crystal Rogers, 35, Bluegrass Parkway, 3 July 2015 #1

[Eileen730]

He isn't looking for her bc he is guilty. Hate or not you show some sort of endearment. You can't pump a 2 1/2 yr olds head. If roles were reversed would he want her to keep the baby from his family? Reverse roles? LuLu4 have you heard this guy on Nancy Grace? I think he had all day Saturday to get rid of the body

It is very possible he was told not to search. She was last seen with him.
I totally understand why.

I also believe he has consulted with a lawyer.

JMO

 

[VaughnLsu]

If he was told not to search why would her parents stress the fact that he hasn't helped look for her. I'm sure LE would have told them " we have asked him to not look"

 

[VaughnLsu]

Two people are involved ! You are right! I think someone the bf was dating cheating with, brooks wouldn't leave crystal bc of the custody of the baby so he killed her to be with other woman, other woman helped him... I watch too many crime shows.

 

[Eileen730]

If he was told not to search why would her parents stress the fact that he hasn't helped look for her. I'm sure LE would have told them " we have asked him to not look"

IMO it does not look good for anyone close the missing person search only because if they are the one to find that person everyone will say its because he knew where to look. Or they could mislead and take ppl further away from where they could be found.

It also contaminates the scene.

I don't know I don't think anyone close should be out searching.

To me that does not mean hes guilty and I don't think he and her family are or ever were happy with each other.

All JMO

 

[Dmacky]

There's one detail about this case that keeps gnawing at me, but I haven't seen it addressed much.

It seems rather likely that Crystal wasn't driving her car when it got a nail in the tire and went flat out on that stretch of highway. Granted, all of her stuff was in there, but I don't think she was. The flat tire was a big surprise and an unpredicted obstacle in the attempt to cover up and hide this crime. It appears that the car was being taken to a different location in an attempt to create a buffer zone from where the crime occurred to where her vehicle would ultimately be found. This would have transferred the search zone over 25 miles away from Bardstown, and possibly a lot further.

Now, where would this car have been headed ? Elizabethtown ? Some other small town ? Close to an ex-boyfriends house ?

The person that was transporting the vehicle, how did he/she plan on getting back to Bardstown after the car was abandoned ?

I think I may have the answer. Two people involved, one driving her vehicle, one following behind.
When Crystals car got an unexpected flat tire, the person following simply pulled over, stopped, and picked up the driver right there on the side of the road. It would have been too risky to put on a spare tire there on the shoulder, since a highway patrol could come along at any minute.

Even though planting her car in another town and staging a crime scene was part of the plan, it turned out to be a huge failure, so that part of the plan was abandoned. Either way, the person driving her car was going to have to make it back to Bardstown.

It seems like to me that at least two people have to be involved in this caper. They need to look very seriously into any women that Houck may have known and communicated with. To me, this almost screams out a female helping a male get rid of his troublesome girlfriend.

Motive? Well, maybe he wanted sole custody of their child. Maybe he didn't want to be saddled with child support payments for the rest of his life. Maybe he just liked this other woman better and wanted to start up a family with her instead. IF it turns out that Houck is behind this, then it appears to be premeditated and planned out in advance, but I still think he had an accomplice, simply due to the attempt to move her car far away from the scene of the crime. Somebody picked up the person driving that car when it got a flat tire, and even if it hadn't gotten a flat tire, that same person was going to give him a ride back home to Bardstown.

Wow Steelman ~
That is something that never dawned on me! I think your absolutely right. :bow:
Running over a nail is something you (hardly) ever even know. It obviously was a slow leak, since
LE actually saw or found out the nail was still in place.
Great catch SM.

I don't necessarily agree about another "woman" being his accomplice though. IMO women are just a little too chatty...
But I do agree he had to have some help though, I just think it was another man that he TRUSTED.

 

[Dmacky]

Hi Bravo :wave:
This case is too close to home for me! Glad to see you here my friend!

 

[krig101]

There's one detail about this case that keeps gnawing at me, but I haven't seen it addressed much.

It seems rather likely that Crystal wasn't driving her car when it got a nail in the tire and went flat out on that stretch of highway. Granted, all of her stuff was in there, but I don't think she was. The flat tire was a big surprise and an unpredicted obstacle in the attempt to cover up and hide this crime. It appears that the car was being taken to a different location in an attempt to create a buffer zone from where the crime occurred to where her vehicle would ultimately be found. This would have transferred the search zone over 25 miles away from Bardstown, and possibly a lot further.

Now, where would this car have been headed ? Elizabethtown ? Some other small town ? Close to an ex-boyfriends house ?

The person that was transporting the vehicle, how did he/she plan on getting back to Bardstown after the car was abandoned ?

I think I may have the answer. Two people involved, one driving her vehicle, one following behind.
When Crystals car got an unexpected flat tire, the person following simply pulled over, stopped, and picked up the driver right there on the side of the road. It would have been too risky to put on a spare tire there on the shoulder, since a highway patrol could come along at any minute.

Even though planting her car in another town and staging a crime scene was part of the plan, it turned out to be a huge failure, so that part of the plan was abandoned. Either way, the person driving her car was going to have to make it back to Bardstown.

It seems like to me that at least two people have to be involved in this caper. They need to look very seriously into any women that Houck may have known and communicated with. To me, this almost screams out a female helping a male get rid of his troublesome girlfriend.

Motive? Well, maybe he wanted sole custody of their child. Maybe he didn't want to be saddled with child support payments for the rest of his life. Maybe he just liked this other woman better and wanted to start up a family with her instead. IF it turns out that Houck is behind this, then it appears to be premeditated and planned out in advance, but I still think he had an accomplice, simply due to the attempt to move her car far away from the scene of the crime. Somebody picked up the person driving that car when it got a flat tire, and even if it hadn't gotten a flat tire, that same person was going to give him a ride back home to Bardstown.

Like the way you think Steelman! I never thought of a woman accomplice. If investigators go through his phone records, will any of these friends' phones have pinged in the area where the car was found?

Crystal's sister had stated that if Crystal were to leave for the night that she would never leave the toddler with Bf........ WHY?

Was she threatening to leave for good and take their child?

http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2015/07/11/crystal-rogers-missing-mom-kentucky-intv-newday.cnn



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[Cardinal47]

Does anybody happen to know if BH has any other children?

 

[Cardinal47]

Here is the house that CR and BH live in

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.833...4!1smNMbneEFaz4TEJaLqnKy8Q!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

http://www.trulia.com/homes/Kentucky/Bardstown/sold/1000689349-113-Glenview-Dr-Bardstown-KY-40004

This has kind of been bothering me. This is the address of the Houck residence but the house next door to our right seems to be the one I saw on tv with the police cruisers. It also seems to be the home where children are living. If you click on the small window and then click again you can scan to our right.

Is this the right house or was NG wrong again!

http://www.trulia.com/homes/Kentucky/Bardstown/sold/1000689349-113-Glenview-Dr-Bardstown-KY-40004

 

[krig101]

I wonder if some form of physical or verbal abuse was going on that family was not aware of. A friend of mine a few years ago was married to a guy who was abusive. I knew both of them well. On the outside they appeared very happy, the perfect family with their 2 little ones. The husband would go out of his way to help people (he worked at the same place as I did). But later I found out that they would get into very heated arguments and he would trash the house and push her around. Her family never knew. She begged the people who found out not to not tell her family. He was in jail not long after that (for grand theft!Something else no one ever expected) where he still remains and they are now divorced. My point is that there may have been something going on behind closed doors that no one knew about and that night he went to the point of no return.

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[Cardinal47]

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.833...4!1sIZvO74_60Td5M15TkkoeaA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

It is the house next door with all the bicycles and sign down by the garage door saying Brooks Rental.

 

[Cardinal47]

I wonder if some form of physical or verbal abuse was going on that family was not aware of. A friend of mine a few years ago was married to a guy who was abusive. I knew both of them well. On the outside they appeared very happy, the perfect family with their 2 little ones. The husband would go out of his way to help people (he worked at the same place as I did). But later I found out that they would get into very heated arguments and he would trash the house and push her around. Her family never knew. She begged the people who found out not to not tell her family. He was in jail not long after that (for grand theft!Something else no one ever expected) where he still remains and they are now divorced. My point is that there may have been something going on behind closed doors that no one knew about and that night he went to the point of no return.

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Good points and we never do know what goes on behind closed doors.

The only point I would make is that Crystal's family did not like BH and now he won't let them see the little grandson so I think either the family had problems or Crystal told them.

Also didn't Crystal tell her sister or mother if she was ever found dead look to Brooks.

So I think Crystal did talk but stayed for probably many different reasons.

A woman with five children from 3 or 4 different men living in bf's home doesn't have a lot of choices.

It seems she lived there with her three sons at BH home. Not sure where the second girl lived but the older one lived with maternal grandma.

Did Crystal work? I know she showed a rental but did she have a permanent job with a steady paycheck or just work for Brooks and his rental deal?

The tax records would show who owns that home and I am guessing BH is the only owner.

 

[Bravo]

Hi Bravo :wave:
This case is too close to home for me! Glad to see you here my friend!

Good to see you too ma dear :seeya: Wow so sorry this happened and so close to you. It is not sounding good. Getting caught up here and waaay to many posts to thank LOL

 

[Bravo]

If the BF is not searching is he doing anything? Things like putting up missing posters etc?

 

[Shelby1]

I'm wondering if a close female family member helped the boyfriend.........

 

[hisjerseygirl]

i hope she's found soon... just so sad. can't imagine what her family is going through.

 

[Traymar]

This is pure speculation, but I get a "controlling" vibe from the bf. In my opinion (and experience ), a person with control issues would NEVER be so cavalier about his gf's disappearance (or angry abandonment in the middle of the night) -- whether the event were common or uncommon, with/at relatives or otherwise, taking child or leaving child behind.

An abusive person (abuse is ALL about control) MUST control his mate's comings and goings, at least to some extent. I'm not saying bf WAS abusive, but I would not be surprised. And the control and jealousy are not about love, so whether he loved her is irrelevant, IMO.

The actions of a controller are about control -- and a fear of, and attempt to prevent, an outcome he cannot bear (or thinks he cannot bear). Indeed, I highly doubt he would be indifferent to her staying up playing on her phone while he went to bed.

And, oddly, the way he talked about the child "running loose" in the house sounded like he was talking about a child who wasn't his. Kind of an irritated and dismissive commentary on his gf's parenting, it seemed. All JMO.

 

[travelbug]

This is pure speculation, but I get a "controlling" vibe from the bf. In my opinion (and experience ), a person with control issues would NEVER be so cavalier about his gf's disappearance (or angry abandonment in the middle of the night) -- whether the event were common or uncommon, with/at relatives or otherwise, taking child or leaving child behind.

An abusive person (abuse is ALL about control) MUST control his mate's comings and goings, at least to some extent. I'm not saying bf WAS abusive, but I would not be surprised. And the control and jealousy are not about love, so whether he loved her is irrelevant, IMO.

The actions of a controller are about control -- and a fear of, and attempt to prevent, an outcome he cannot bear (or thinks he cannot bear). Indeed, I highly doubt he would be indifferent to her staying up playing on her phone while he went to bed.

And, oddly, the way he talked about the child "running loose" in the house sounded like he was talking about a child who wasn't his. Kind of an irritated and dismissive commentary on his gf's parenting, it seemed. All JMO.

Spot on... he reminds me a lot of Drew Peterson. :moo:

 

[Owutatangledweb]

B

Did anyone look up where that campground is? It's along the Scioto River, between Portsmouth and Chillicothe.....does anyone see where I'm going with this?

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What does a campground have to do with this case? This is the first I'm hearing of this. Can someone clue me in?

 

[jULIA_bEE]

B

What does a campground have to do with this case? This is the first I'm hearing of this. Can someone clue me in?

That was from a FB post on the search's page. I'm pretty sure it was unfounded.


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