Kyle Clifford: Wanted in connection with triple murder in Bushey, 3 women murdered in home, 9th July 2024 *arrest*

[Interested_But_Confused]

Maybe one of the victims managed to get away and call the police, and he shot them in a panic *after* that happened? If they were still alive when the police arrived they had probably been shot very recently.

I suppose it's possible (though unlikely) that he originally planned to terrorise rather than kill them.

 

[Inspector Evans]

I find it hard to understand how the whole thing could go on for so long. As you say, the house could have visitors. It’s a quiet area but there would be neighbours and people passing by. Also it was not just one person but three involved, although we don’t know if they were all present from the start.

Just reading the press reports today, seems the Mum was fatally injured in the hallway so suggests to me she came back and interrupted things and then the horrific escalation occurred.

Then you get reports Hannah Hunt texted her BF while tied up. Police didn't turn up until half 7-8pm (?) so there's a big lag in the timeline given he was stopped on the CCTV approaching the house at midday.

Perhaps it was a showdown/heart to heart meeting at first in the house and then he snapped at some point hours later and did what he did.

It will be very hard to read about this when the court case occurs next year but the timeline pieced together will be interesting as we're not talking about a sudden attack and then fleeing the scene if he was there for six hours.

 

[Alyce]

Interesting that he attempted suicide, it appears, by shooting himself in the chest.

Men who use firearms as a suicide means usually shoot themselves in the head.

Women who use firearms as a suicide means usually shot themselves in the chest. The theory was that women didn't want their faces to be distorted, and be able to have open casket funerals.

Was it a firearm that was used ? I thought shooting referred to the crossbow.

 

[JennieM]

Was it a firearm that was used ? I thought shooting referred to the crossbow.

I assumed firearm.

 

[Dotta]

I assumed firearm.

DM link said shot by crossbow.

Although it is a bit ambiguous:

"believed to have shot himself with the weapon in a cemetery in north London"

But "THE weapon" indicates a crossbow mentioned earlier (a sentence or two earlier)

Oh well...


But there seemed to be a report where it was said it was a crossbow.
Hmmm....

Moment triple crossbow killer suspect is snared in cemetery

Kyle Clifford was taken to Royal London Hospital where he continues to be treated at a major trauma centre - officers have said 'no shots were fired by police' during the operation to apprehend him.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Grouse]

Just reading the press reports today, seems the Mum was fatally injured in the hallway so suggests to me she came back and interrupted things and then the horrific escalation occurred.

Possibly. When I first read that I assumed she'd answered the door, but some MSM reports said doorbell cctv indicated he wasn't visibly carrying the crossbow on arrival (maybe assembled it in the house).

 

[Seni]

It was also reported in MSM that he was possibly carrying other weapons

 

[Grouse]

It was also reported in MSM that he was possibly carrying other weapons

In addition to the crossbow he appeared to be carrying a large bag and he was also wearing a backpack so that does seem likely.

 

[Kemug]

Just reading the press reports today, seems the Mum was fatally injured in the hallway so suggests to me she came back and interrupted things and then the horrific escalation occurred.

But didn't reports say that all 3 victims had been tied up, had ligature marks, so I don't think it could have been the case that the mother came home and was immediately killed in the hallway.

 

[Kemug]

I wonder what the dynamics in his birth family are like.

 

[Interested_But_Confused]

In addition to the crossbow itself, he'd have to be carrying the crossbow bolts. They may have been in the bag he was carrying.

Unless he did something as gross as using the same bolt on all three victims, he presumably had *at least* four bolts: one for each of the three women, and the one he used on himself.

 

[Alyce]

Crossbow murder suspect Kyle Clifford 'stabbed himself in the chest'

Kyle Clifford, who was arrested on suspicion of murdering Carol Hunt, and her daughters Hannah and Louise at their home in Bushey, Hertfordshire is under police armed guard at hospital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Seryth]

Crossbow murder suspect Kyle Clifford 'stabbed himself in the chest'

Kyle Clifford, who was arrested on suspicion of murdering Carol Hunt, and her daughters Hannah and Louise at their home in Bushey, Hertfordshire is under police armed guard at hospital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This is interesting - DM saying he has stab wounds to the chest, likely self inflicted. Stab wounds and a fired crossbow bolt wound would be quite different I imagine. Also implies he was carrying a knife at least, and possibly other weapons too that may have been used to subdued the family.

 

[Grouse]

Crossbow murder suspect Kyle Clifford 'stabbed himself in the chest'

Kyle Clifford, who was arrested on suspicion of murdering Carol Hunt, and her daughters Hannah and Louise at their home in Bushey, Hertfordshire is under police armed guard at hospital.

www.dailymail.co.uk

The video scene with the paramedics running past the camera would appear to be here , at the edge of the cemetery with what looks like open woodland next to it, wonder why he didn't just disappear into that if he didn't want to be found.

 

[Inthedetails]

This is interesting - DM saying he has stab wounds to the chest, likely self inflicted. Stab wounds and a fired crossbow bolt wound would be quite different I imagine. Also implies he was carrying a knife at least, and possibly other weapons too that may have been used to subdued the family.

Knowing he had a knife, perhaps we now also know how he subdued three victims. If someone put a knife to my daughter's, sister's, or mom's throat, I would comply. jmo

jmo

 

[SirDigbyChickenCaesar]

BBC News - Family devastated after crossbow attack - John Hunt

Family devastated after crossbow attack - John Hunt

www.bbc.com

John Hunt and daughter Amy released a statement.

 

[Parker Knoll]

He had a bag and a rucksack as well iirc - He definitely would have had a knife in there.
JMO

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1812101028809982022