Blondie in Spokane
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blondie - i pm'ed you info about your norton. i hope you don't mind. jade.
Thanks a bunch, Jade...you guys are great!
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sbm...
blondie - i pm'ed you info about your norton. i hope you don't mind. jade.
Thank you for this. Very good point here. Like I said, I'm not sure it's actually a container, but I see him buried in something, or something that is container like. And maybe the cadaver dogs haven't been near it yet. I've often wondered if Sauvie Island was meant as a false lead and not the actual place he was buried. Unfortunately, my feelings are very vague, so you could be right. I just can't get past the feeling of him being "whole" somewhere, and the image of a lid or door lifting and dirt falling in. I could be completely off, and I wish what I felt was more definite, ugh. But I hadn't considered your point at all before this post. So who knows.
SBM; Trigger warning: graphic details following
It is incredibly difficult to seal up a container so tight that dogs can't get any scent from it. Welding a steel barrel might do it but not always (drug smugglers have tried it unsuccessfully).
Containers that have cadavers in them are particularly difficult to seal up because the process of decomposition generates gasses which exert a tremendous amount of pressure if sealed into a container.
Mostly, though, I look at all the ways drug smugglers have tried to beat drug sniffing dogs and failed. Then I think about a woman with, I assume, average suburban mother skills and a very tight time schedule and I honestly don't think she would have time to effectively seal such a container.
While I realize this sounds horrible and I hate to mention this, but TH had a friend who was involved in landscaping. These folks have access to things that can make bodies disappear, like machinery and substances that can hasten the breakdown of a body.
Knowing this makes me really think that it's quite possible a body may never be found.
Add to this that landscapers have shovels, bags, trucks and know the area, not good. But I still can't wrap my brain around DDS helping TH murder a little boy -- at least not with her knowledge she's helping. However, from the People article where she says TH has nothing to do with it - that's just nonsense with all the other info - the MFH, failed polygraphs, no public statements, not fighting for the baby, sexting - so then I think DDS may have indeed helped but if not for some twisted love thing, why?
I wonder if there have been more searches in Forest Park with dogs for a wider area? Anyone know?
And I like the theory here of OTHER that we're all being manipulated so Kyron can be found and freed - wouldn't that be great.
My scenario, in which I believe Kyron is dead:
Terri planned this scheme, and enlisted people to help her but lied to them what they helped her with. They probably thought he was being handed off to someone else for his safety, but that's not what eventually happened. Or, she just needed someone to watch the baby at different times, and they had no idea what else was going on.
She knew the school would be busy that day. She probably even knew about the guy cutting the soccer field grass too. She came up with the doctor's appointment and made confusion at the school to place the blame on them. She lured Kyron out of that school and into the truck where no one could see him or wonder what was going on. I think she gave him a treat that drugged him, and then she hid him under a blanket in the back seat so no one could see him in her truck.
Then, she went about getting her alibi by running through Starbucks at one location and talking to someone she knew from the gym, plus the other store. I think after that she killed him by choking him, or just simply smothering him. Either way, it wasn't messy, and she buried him at a pre-planned place. She covered this, she thought, by driving around on backroads after burying Kyron just so she could say that she was driving around for the achy baby. She thought the school and some local perp would get the blame, and she'd be the sympathetic stepmother and wouldn't even be looked at.
Only she knows where Kyron is, and is probably not going to tell. Hopefully, those she lied to are starting to put the pieces together and realize what really happened. If they are still believing her, that means it'll be even longer until Kyron is found.
I do think he was buried in some sort of container, or in one of those abandoned basements or something like that. I do think there's a good chance of him being found without Terri's help, but it just might take longer to find him.
I do believe this was a one woman crime by someone who knew she could manipulate people, with lies, into helping her. I don't think she planned this out with a gang of people.
Thank you for this. Very good point here. Like I said, I'm not sure it's actually a container, but I see him buried in something, or something that is container like. And maybe the cadaver dogs haven't been near it yet. I've often wondered if Sauvie Island was meant as a false lead and not the actual place he was buried. Unfortunately, my feelings are very vague, so you could be right. I just can't get past the feeling of him being "whole" somewhere, and the image of a lid or door lifting and dirt falling in. I could be completely off, and I wish what I felt was more definite, ugh. But I hadn't considered your point at all before this post. So who knows.
While I realize this sounds horrible and I hate to mention this, but TH had a friend who was involved in landscaping. These folks have access to things that can make bodies disappear, like machinery and substances that can hasten the breakdown of a body. Knowing this makes me really think that it's quite possible a body may never be found.
Strange, but I envision a vertical concrete pipe of some sort that goes very deep with a lid on it, and water and I see it being right next to or on the edge of some thick brush. That's just the image that I keep thinking of when I try to think of what she might have done with him.
Could this be a well? I immediately thought of that when you described this. Very interesting. I hadn't even thought about this, but it's possible! I just don't know if there are a lot of wells in Oregon.