GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #3

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:waitasec: So where did the original report come from? Are they saying there was no extradition request in the first place?

That would make sense as Surfie was questioning. As far as has been reported, there was no connection thus far to link them to a crime in MS. Right?

It didn't make sense to me either to have her extradited just to be questioned. If they wanted to question her, just drive there and question her.
 
Now, I could see a male and female with blue and orange hair leading to tips at this point if their hair had been that color before, but I'm not so sure that just releasing the vehicle description would amount to anything. To much time has passed and a vehicle when you already have suspects and pictures of them would just probably not amount to much. If this were a case where that was all you had to go on yes.
 
:waitasec: So where did the original report come from? Are they saying there was no extradition request in the first place?

That would make sense as Surfie was questioning. As far as has been reported, there was no connection thus far to link them to a crime in MS. Right?

It didn't make sense to me either to have her extradited just to be questioned. If they wanted to question her, just drive there and question her.

I know... right?!
 
I have a REALLY far stretch...

So looking into some other Temptation's girls' facebooks I found that they were all private, but their maps were public. One girl had checked into a nicer casinos on the coast - with pictures of gifts, nice dinners, new clothes - all throughout a 5 day period. This is along with pictures of the sunrise from a hotel room. What if he (or someone else) run girls from NOLA to "escort" big casino "whales" for a little company during their stay? Think about it, why would she go, or even stay in the car? $700? I doubt the POIs had that kind of money, and I'm sure JL knew that. But a 3-4 day trip to be a host of a high roller? That WOULD cost $700...

Again, completely far stretch, but it seems the most logical scenario to me.

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Woe's question ~(quote messed up)

How or why would JL do this with her fiance waiting for her to return from work?
He claims he kept trying to call her but she didn't answer his calls.
 
You know, it's really changed in the last 2 years as far as relying on media reports. They try to be the first on getting the story and don't have the facts straight what so ever. It really is a disservice to family members and really muddy's the water, very frustrating to say the least.
I swear I get more info on FB sometimes.
 
Now, I could see a male and female with blue and orange hair leading to tips at this point if their hair had been that color before, but I'm not so sure that just releasing the vehicle description would amount to anything. To much time has passed and a vehicle when you already have suspects and pictures of them would just probably not amount to much. If this were a case where that was all you had to go on yes.

I think I missed something important. Does LE have the vehicle in question?
 
You know, it's really changed in the last 2 years as far as relying on media reports. They try to be the first on getting the story and don't have the facts straight what so ever. It really is a disservice to family members and really muddy's the water, very frustrating to say the least.
I swear I get more info on FB sometimes.

And if we can get info, why can't they? Journalism isn't what it used to be.
 
Good grief, will it never stop? Maybe LE should officially interview him and debunk this stuff.

I agree. However, if in some made for TV movie way said person was to be involved somehow, I have a whole 'nother theory on that. The whole concept of her involvement gives me ideas for writing a crime novel, which I suppose they can base the lifetime movie on in the future! :waitasec:
 
I have a REALLY far stretch...



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Woe's question ~(quote messed up)

How or why would JL do this with her fiance waiting for her to return from work?
He claims he kept trying to call her but she didn't answer his calls.

Didn't answer phone cuz....no signal, dead battery, phone taken from her, already dead by then. She got off early so he was not alarmed at that time
 
I have a REALLY far stretch...

So looking into some other Temptation's girls' facebooks I found that they were all private, but their maps were public. One girl had checked into a nicer casinos on the coast - with pictures of gifts, nice dinners, new clothes - all throughout a 5 day period. This is along with pictures of the sunrise from a hotel room. What if he (or someone else) run girls from NOLA to "escort" big casino "whales" for a little company during their stay? Think about it, why would she go, or even stay in the car? $700? I doubt the POIs had that kind of money, and I'm sure JL knew that. But a 3-4 day trip to be a host of a high roller? That WOULD cost $700...

Again, completely far stretch, but it seems the most logical scenario to me.

Not a far stretch at all.[/QUOTE]

I also think there was a heavy hitter involved, either in real life or invented.

If there was an actual big fish on the hook...I'll think about that if there's evidence of it. Lots of possibilities, all hypothetical.
 
That's a good catch; however, perhaps she had a car in the past?

Jaren's brother in law, (Benny) told me that she and her fiance had a car but it had been wrecked which is why they were staying in that hotel to be closer to work.

I am in the process of getting details from him to bring here. I just want to catch up and make sure I have things straight

Someone had asked about money and he said Jaren would have only had $200-300 dollars on her.

Like I said, i am catching up and making sure that I am getting everything right. I am trying to go back a few pages and get the current questions and get the facts on them for everyone here.

I believe in this family and that was before I talked with Benny. After talking with him, I am even more in support of the family. they are just heartbroken and overwhelmed.

The people who killed Jaren didn't just take her life, they took her hope and potential, they took her chance to be a mother to her child, they took away so much more than can be expressed. My heart goes out to them and I will do everything i can to help them.
 
I agree. However, if in some made for TV movie way said person was to be involved somehow, I have a whole 'nother theory on that. The whole concept of her involvement gives me ideas for writing a crime novel, which I suppose they can base the lifetime movie on in the future! :waitasec:

I can't say I haven't wondered about said person's location. So, yeah. That's that, then.

Maybe it will stop soon. You'd think at the very least the news source would take those comments out. Or something. Very odd.
 
Now, I could see a male and female with blue and orange hair leading to tips at this point if their hair had been that color before, but I'm not so sure that just releasing the vehicle description would amount to anything. To much time has passed and a vehicle when you already have suspects and pictures of them would just probably not amount to much. If this were a case where that was all you had to go on yes.

We now have pics of the two. But no pic of the truck. For some, having both might trigger something in a possible witness. In other words two pieces of the puzzle are better then one. Besides, there hair was not crazy colors the night JL left with them. It's the public that tipped off LE of their identity. I just think they should release more info to maybe spark something new from the public.
 
Didn't answer phone cuz....no signal, dead battery, phone taken from her, already dead by then. She got off early so he was not alarmed at that time

True about why she might not answer her phone. But would JL's fiance be accepting of her taking off to go to MS? Wouldn't she need to tell him that was her plan before she left Temptations? He knew she was working in a strip club but did she stay out overnight without letting him know (I mean if she thought that was what she was going to do to make a big sum of money.)
 
To me, the biggest mystery is why the body was completely disarticulated. All the way down to decapitation. If it were not premeditated, why didn't they just dump her in any of the very secluded places in SE Louisiana/S. Mississippi. They took the time to literally take her apart before dumping her. Why?

Something inspired that level of gruesomeness.
Hiya puf! :seeya:..long time, no see:hug:
It seems as tho you and I have similar thoughts about some of the particulars of this case.. in reading your above post ITA and instead of typing a whole other droning on post I just went back into the previous thread and copied part of my post that is regarding this particular issue of which you speak.. and just what IMO quite possibly shows that there was very methodical and purposeful dismembering done.. much more than was necessary and much more than is typical.. below I go into detail explaining exactly what i mean..
<snipped my post from thread #2 and pasted below>
WRT there likely being a crime scene somewhere that would quite likely be a gory, bloody scene due to the fact we know for absolute certain that she was intentionally dismemebered.. and IMO not only dismembered but methodically dismembered into even smaller portions than IMO would be typical(oh how i hate typing that) ..what I'm referring to is that each of her limbs were not only removed, but taken even a step further in cutting each limb into sections.. the upper thigh, then the lower leg, and even quite possibly from there removing the foot from the lower leg portion..

Ill quickly explain what and why i believe this to be possible.. first we know that each limb was atleast cut into upper and lower portions.. to date we only have recovered 3 of the 4 "upper" portions of her limbs(upper thigh, right&left upper arms) ..what is left unrecovered is ALL 4 OF THE LOWER PORTIONS OF EACH LIMB..this is where my opinion comes in.. I believe it likely that all 4 lower portions of the extremities(including 2 feet and 2 hands) were then further cut by removing the hands and feet from the lower portions of her extremities(again horrible to type this) ..my reason for seeing this as a strong possibility is that it is THESE LIMBS THAT REMAIN UNRECOVERED.. i believe that's due to their having been cut into such small portions that its even quite likely they will not be recovered..

FACT- the perp dismembered each of her limbs into ATLEAST 2 SECTIONS(thus far recovered ALL"UPPER" PORTIONS OF 3 OF THE 4 LIMBS) ..that we know as an established fact..

MY OPINION- that there is a great possibility that from there the perp then removed the 2 hands and 2 feet from those STILL MISSING lower portions of all 4 limbs..

Back to my point re: there likely being a very gory, bloody crime scene somewhere due to the fact we know that she was dismembered and decapitated.. (and this is not just a specific reply to the above post but rather in reply to this particular discussion since learning the manner in which Jaren's remains were disposed)

For any who possibly have followed the very recent Canada case of Luka Magnotta who not only murdered, decapitated, and dismembered his victim, Jun Lin.. . but most horrifying he recorded the entire act and then uploaded it to the internet(where I might add that it is still all of the WWW for any/all to view.. including children ).. this video is proof positive that a dismemberment of the human body DOES NOT AT ALL MEAN THAT THE SCENE FOR WHERE IT IS DONE WOULD BE A GORY, BLOODY MESS AS MOST ASSUME IT TO BE. in fact it is proof positive that it is shockingly void of massive amounts of blood.. if the killer knows what they're doing..

I won't continue to drone on and will only say that its very easily searched or Googled to find that what i am saying is absolutely accurate and true and that there very well could be little crime scene evidence left wherever it is found to have been done.. (With the Magnotta/Jun Lin case being saturated in the media IMO it should be easily googled to see for one's self the exact way that a body can be easily dismembered WITHOUT THERE BEING A GRUESOME, BLOODY CRIME SCENE.. )

All jmo, except for where i stated otherwise..
 
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