GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #7

[ktgirl]

Just thinking out loud. IMO Jaren was a gorgeous girl- beautiful face, beautiful smile, awesome hair, and rocking' body. She really could have modeled. Her smile looks like she had electric magnetism to her.

(If there isn's a third person involved) I'm thinking it's possible MAS (who was not as pretty - especially at this time, when she indeed looked as someone else said...like a heroin addict) got jealous of the attention TS was giving Jaren and jealous of Jaren's beauty, magnetism, rocking body, etc. A fight went down between them (mostly fueled by whatever drugs MAS was on) and MAS stabbed Jaren, then she and TS went into "what do we do with the body" mode.

 

[reedus23]

The cameras picked them up at Veterans and Williams. You might be surprised how much traffic is in that area in the wee hours. It's a major intersection. The airport is at one end of Williams, and the Treasure Chest casino is at the other, with I-10, Veterans, and a cluster of hotels in the middle. If there are other possible suspects as they say, maybe one of the leads is a car on camera passing the intersection near that time.

BBM-That is what I was wondering Bessie.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Friends remind me whether the autopsy/coroner's findings on Jaren's remains is available? I have a bit of a theory/idea but want to read before putting my high heels in mah mouth.

 

[Clodumbo]

Kenner Police announced an arrest warrant for Terry Speaks for second-degree murder and obstruction of justice. Speaks is currently in federal custody in Otisville, N.Y. on an unrelated charge, but he is scheduled to be released from the federal prison in October.

According to Kenner Police Chief Steve Caraway, Speaks will be extradited to Louisiana for the murder charge and obstruction of justice, as well as failing to register as a sex offender.

Source: http://www.wwltv.com/news/woman-ashore-262914291.html


-Clodumbo

 

[Donamena]

Friends remind me whether the autopsy/coroner's findings on Jaren's remains is available? I have a bit of a theory/idea but want to read before putting my high heels in mah mouth.

Bessie would know, she knows everything. About the case, I mean

 

[AstroKitty]

This may sound stupid but does 2nd degree mean it wasn't premeditated?

 

[Ms. Shagwell]

This may sound stupid but does 2nd degree mean it wasn't premeditated?

Found this link for 2nd degree murder according to LA laws. Hope I typed it correctly b/c I've never figured out how to copy and paste on this tablet:banghead: It's from a website called FindLaw.com . It doesn't look like premeditation is involved although intent to kill is. Also involves dispensing of drugs, forceful rape, etc. that results in death.

http://legis.la.gov/lss/lss.asp?doc=78398

 

[AstroKitty]

So basically it means that they may not have brought Jaren there with the intent to murder her but once they began doing whatever it was to her - their intention was homicide. The degrees of murder (after 1st degree) and manslaughter - tend to get a lil' blurry around the lines for me.

 

[reedus23]

Kenner Police announced an arrest warrant for Terry Speaks for second-degree murder and obstruction of justice. Speaks is currently in federal custody in Otisville, N.Y. on an unrelated charge, but he is scheduled to be released from the federal prison in October.

According to Kenner Police Chief Steve Caraway, Speaks will be extradited to Louisiana for the murder charge and obstruction of justice, as well as failing to register as a sex offender.

Source: http://www.wwltv.com/news/woman-ashore-262914291.html


-Clodumbo

Wow!!! I'll be honest. I thought it would be much closer to his release date. LE and the DA must be pretty confident in what they already have or they would have waited to find more evidence, get test results back and so on.

 

[reedus23]

Friends remind me whether the autopsy/coroner's findings on Jaren's remains is available? I have a bit of a theory/idea but want to read before putting my high heels in mah mouth.

I have not seen one.

 

[reedus23]

This may sound stupid but does 2nd degree mean it wasn't premeditated?

2006 Louisiana Laws - RS 14:30 — First degree murder

§30. First degree murder

A. First degree murder is the killing of a human being:

(1) When the offender has specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm and is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of aggravated kidnapping, second degree kidnapping, aggravated escape, aggravated arson, aggravated rape, forcible rape, aggravated burglary, armed robbery, assault by drive-by shooting, first degree robbery, second degree robbery, simple robbery, terrorism, cruelty to juveniles, or second degree cruelty to juveniles.

(2) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon a fireman, peace officer, or civilian employee of the Louisiana State Police Crime Laboratory or any other forensic laboratory engaged in the performance of his lawful duties, or when the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm is directly related to the victim's status as a fireman, peace officer, or civilian employee.

(3) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon more than one person.

(4) When the offender has specific intent to kill or inflict great bodily harm and has offered, has been offered, has given, or has received anything of value for the killing.

(5) When the offender has the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon a victim who is under the age of twelve or sixty-five years of age or older.

(6) When the offender has the specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm while engaged in the distribution, exchange, sale, or purchase, or any attempt thereof, of a controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedules I, II, III, IV, or V of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law.

(7) When the offender has specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm and is engaged in the activities prohibited by R.S. 14:107.1(C)(1).

(8) When the offender has specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm and there has been issued by a judge or magistrate any lawful order prohibiting contact between the offender and the victim in response to threats of physical violence or harm which was served on the offender and is in effect at the time of the homicide.

(9) When the offender has specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm upon a victim who was a witness to a crime or was a member of the immediate family of a witness to a crime committed on a prior occasion and:

(a) The killing was committed for the purpose of preventing or influencing the victim's testimony in any criminal action or proceeding whether or not such action or proceeding had been commenced; or

(b) The killing was committed for the purpose of exacting retribution for the victim's prior testimony.

2006 Louisiana Laws - RS 14:30.1 — Second degree murder

§30.1. Second degree murder

A. Second degree murder is the killing of a human being:

(1) When the offender has a specific intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm; or

(2)(a) When the offender is engaged in the perpetration or attempted perpetration of aggravated rape, forcible rape, aggravated arson, aggravated burglary, aggravated kidnapping, second degree kidnapping, aggravated escape, assault by drive-by shooting, armed robbery, first degree robbery, second degree robbery, simple robbery, cruelty to juveniles, second degree cruelty to juveniles, or terrorism, even though he has no intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm.

(b) When the offender is engaged in the perpetration of cruelty to juveniles, even though he has no intent to kill or to inflict great bodily harm.

(3) When the offender unlawfully distributes or dispenses a controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedules I or II of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law* which is the direct cause of the death of the recipient who ingested or consumed the controlled dangerous substance.

(4) When the offender unlawfully distributes or dispenses a controlled dangerous substance listed in Schedules I or II of the Uniform Controlled Dangerous Substances Law* to another who subsequently distributes or dispenses such controlled dangerous substance which is the direct cause of the death of the person who ingested or consumed the controlled dangerous substance.

Not as easy as yes or no. For first degree murder, you have to have a specific intent AND be in the commission of one of those acts. For 2nd degree it can be specific intent OR with no specific intent to kill but it happened during the commission of one of those specified acts.

A bit disappointed it's not 1st degree myself.

 

[bessie]

Friends remind me whether the autopsy/coroner's findings on Jaren's remains is available? I have a bit of a theory/idea but want to read before putting my high heels in mah mouth.

The autopsy revealed that Lockhart died from a stab wound to her chest, the Hancock County, Miss., Sheriff's Office has said. Mississippi detectives turned the investigation over to the Kenner Police Department.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/06/kenner_police_obtain_arrest_wa.html

A few more details here.

Suspect admitted to killing, dismembering Jaren Lockhart, authorities say
Arrest report says Terry Speaks confessed to crime

 

[bessie]

Kenner police obtain arrest warrant in Jaren Lockhart's murder and dismemberment case

By Paul Purpura, NOLA.com | The Times-Picayune
June 12, 2014 at 5:32 PM

The warrant for Speaks' arrest was not unexpected. Speaks admitted his involvement in Lockhart's death to two inmates at the New York prison, detective have said. One of the inmates claims Speaks said that Sanchez and the victim got into a fight, "and that the female ended up dead," Kenner Police Detective David Stromeyer testified last month.

Those inmates, who have not been identified, sought deals with prosecutors in exchange for providing information about what Speaks said, the detectives testified.

Last year, after FBI and Hancock County detectives spoke with Speaks at the federal prison, he darted off an email to Sanchez, angrily telling her he "cleaned up the mess."

 

[AstroKitty]

what an idiot! For those unfamiliar with emails and inmates; inmates for the most part receive only email not snail mail correspondence via Jpay. This eliminates the actual stamps being traded in prison systems and even jails. Jpay is used for damn near everything and I'm assuming he thought it wasn't monitored. What is striking to me is that she kept the same email and in order for you to respond to someone via jpay is being put on the call/mail list.

 

[bessie]

what an idiot! For those unfamiliar with emails and inmates; inmates for the most part receive only email not snail mail correspondence via Jpay. This eliminates the actual stamps being traded in prison systems and even jails. Jpay is used for damn near everything and I'm assuming he thought it wasn't monitored. What is striking to me is that she kept the same email and in order for you to respond to someone via jpay is being put on the call/mail list.

According to this link I posted on the previous thread, he had to consent to monitoring before he used the TRULINC system.

Monitoring

Inmates and their contacts must consent to monitoring prior to using the system. In addition, all messages are screened for content that could jeopardize the public or the safety, security, or orderly operation of the facility.

http://www.bop.gov/inmates/communications.jsp#phone

 

[MrsBungi]

According to this link I posted on the previous thread, he had to consent to monitoring before he used the TRULINC system.

Karma is coming back ten fold!! He knew about it and still gave consent to be monitored!?!

My husband and I were discussing this. My husband says, that with TS knowing the system with his prior sheet, he would have known not to talk and if he did happen to say something he would have definitely known someone somewhere would say something. It's a dog eat dog world in there.
Any input on this? It made me wonder for a second what was he thinking to even discuss this with other inmates. Please dont get me wrong I'm very grateful that he did but I'm very curious as to why. TS had to have known something would go down.

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[bessie]

Karma is coming back ten fold!! He knew about it and still gave consent to be monitored!?!

My husband and I were discussing this. My husband says, that with TS knowing the system with his prior sheet, he would have known not to talk and if he did happen to say something he would have definitely known someone somewhere would say something. It's a dog eat dog world in there.
Any input on this? It made me wonder for a second what was he thinking to even discuss this with other inmates. Please dont get me wrong I'm very grateful that he did but I'm very curious as to why. TS had to have known something would go down.

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Well, he wouldn't be the first inmate to hang himself with a jailhouse confession. The email's a little different. I originally thought that might be his end of a deal, iykwim. A way to get MAS to admit something. Now I'm not so sure. It could be he was so angry (after LE interviewed him) that he just didn't care because he knew he was going down anyway, and he wasn't going alone.

 

[aeris]

Is there a possibility that TS was the mastermind behind it all...as in he committed the actual murder and most of the cleanup activities (judging from the precision in removing some of the tattoos)...and that he accidentally on purpose leaked a confession to his inmates and wrote that email knowing it was being monitored...so that his charges would be lessened. That way it would look like all he did was the cleanup and not the actual murder? He knows the system. I have no doubt MAS was involved in the cover-up, but considering TS's extensive criminal background, I'm keeping the possibility opened that he committed the actual murder by stabbing.

 

[bessie]

Is there a possibility that TS was the mastermind behind it all...as in he committed the actual murder and most of the cleanup activities (judging from the precision in removing some of the tattoos)...and that he accidentally on purpose leaked a confession to his inmates and wrote that email knowing it was being monitored...so that his charges would be lessened. That way it would look like all he did was the cleanup and not the actual murder? He knows the system. I have no doubt MAS was involved in the cover-up, but considering TS's extensive criminal background, I'm keeping the possibility opened that he committed the actual murder by stabbing.

Sure it's possible. Note, the snip from the inmate's statement posted below says "the female ended up dead". Does it say how the female ended up dead? I wonder.

 

[reedus23]

Is there a possibility that TS was the mastermind behind it all...as in he committed the actual murder and most of the cleanup activities (judging from the precision in removing some of the tattoos)...and that he accidentally on purpose leaked a confession to his inmates and wrote that email knowing it was being monitored...so that his charges would be lessened. That way it would look like all he did was the cleanup and not the actual murder? He knows the system. I have no doubt MAS was involved in the cover-up, but considering TS's extensive criminal background, I'm keeping the possibility opened that he committed the actual murder by stabbing.

Possible but not exactly the smartest way to go about it, but who says he's that smart. Doing it this way was bound to get himself charged with the same charges as MAS at a minimum. If he was trying to minimize his role so that his charges would be lessened, the smarter thing would have been to have his attorney work out a formal plea deal for lesser charges in exchange for testifying against MAS. Now, he may not get that plea deal even if he does try to lessen his role because he has essentially admitted his complicity.