LA - Mickey Shunick, 21, Lafayette 19 May 2012 - #30

[Labikegirl]

As a side note: It bothers me a lot when people try to use mental illnesses as an excuse for poor behavior.

I have bipolar disorder. I have been completely unmedicated for almost three years now. Of course, I have done stupid things in my life and have made bad decisions, but I blame myself for that.

People that commit horrific crimes and try to say they did it because they are bipolar really drives me insane!

There are three different types of bi-polar, some are worse than others. My Mother and my sisters have 1,2, and the milder form that I will call three.

My mom and middle sis are medicated and functioning members of society. My mom was un-medicated until 9 years ago. She spent 55 years of her life with extreme mania and deep depressive episodes. My youngest sis is medicated and functioning, but difficult to deal with. I always tell them how happy I am to have MS.

Everyone reacts to the disease differently, and yes I have seen my Mom in some crazed manic states. I can understand how someone with a severe form of the disease might impulsively attack a lone girl- and yes it may be b/c of the disease.

I am proud of you for being able to manage the disease without medication. I understand how difficult that might be at times.

Be well.

JMO

LA

 

[Artis]

It's so frustrating and scary to try to do therapy with a person who DOES NOT FEEL GUILT and can't even understand what that is.

I think it's entirely useless. Their essence is not having a conscience or any empathy. There is something wrong with these 'people' (I use that term loosely) on a soul level - if they even have souls. It's certainly nothing that the mental health profession will ever get a handle on because it's metaphysical. How they present in this world is just a manifestation of the spiritual problem, imho. What's really messed up is that many of them excel because of their unceasing drive for power and to win. 5 will get you 10 that the parade of famous faces (politicians, banskters, lawyers, celebrities, etc) on cable news are about 80% sociopaths. It's why We the People have such an uphill battle in righting the evil around us. They are so driven and tireless and there are HOARDS of them. Normal humans just don't have that kind of drive for power.

I am positive that whoever abducted Mickey is a sociopath. They feel no remorse whatsoever. The best that we can hope for is that he (or they) isn't inclined to commit murder and she is let go.

 

[JurysOut]

The Affordable Care Act doesn't concern life insurance.

I'm sorry! I must be skimming.

Or I'm having a really idiotic evening. That could be it.

 

[NewYork625]

https://maps.google.com/maps?q=park...WwriPIS7Jlo0XRoJENA&cbp=12,76.19,,0,1.84&z=16

This is the googlemaps image of what I believe is the same building. The image date is April 2009. If it is the same building, then the grafitti of pacman was done sometime between then and now. It looks like there was a realtor's sign at the time the photo was taken.

 

[JurysOut]

I think it's entirely useless. Their essence is not having a conscience or any empathy. There is something wrong with these 'people' (I use that term loosely) on a soul level - if they even have souls. It's certainly nothing that the mental health profession will ever get a handle on because it's metaphysical. How they present in this world is just a manifestation of the spiritual problem, imho. What's really messed up is that many of them excel because of their unceasing drive for power and to win. 5 will get you 10 that the parade of famous faces (politicians, banskters, lawyers, celebrities, etc) on cable news are about 80% sociopaths. It's why We the People have such an uphill battle in righting the evil around us. They are so driven and tireless and there are HOARDS of them. Normal humans just don't have that kind of drive for power.

I am positive that whoever abducted Mickey is a sociopath. They feel no remorse whatsoever. The best that we can hope for is that he (or they) isn't inclined to commit murder and she is let go.

OT- I agree that talk therapy is useless for sociopaths. It's simply a fresh audience.

 

[Labikegirl]

I have been thinking...about that security guard interviewed at the abandoned hospital. Is that on the corner of landry and st Mary? On google earth it looks as if the hospital is not directly on the corner but up a bit on St Mary. If he did know her that would mean that would be the route she most likely would have taken home. I studied the maps and imo the first shortest route home was straight down Congressional, then a poster informed me that immed area is unsafe and she probably tried to go around it. the second fastest route home would have been to turn right on St Marys because it is just a short ride up and then you are on Congressional. Is what I am saying accurate? Im in Calif so I can only glean info from the map. I looked at google earth and also viewed Beckybayou's video but the area near Congresssional near BW doest really look that dangerous from these perspectives.

Oh it is, trust me. I would not ride it without a police escort.

La

 

[LSUFanGirl]

Ok, I have an OT theory about the WT.... What if the driver hasn't come forward because he wasn't where he was supposed to be?! ie - wife/gf/s.o. didn't know they were out downtown?

I still think he would have come forward. He could have been honest with the police about what he was doing without them necessarily telling his spouse. Better you admit where you were and what was up then have the police knocking on your door one day confronting you in front of said spouse/partner.

I think the only reason the W/T driver hasn't come forward that is an honest reason is that he:
a) Works out of town - offshore worker, only has a little time off and hasn't heard the news.
b) Lives in another area. Maybe the northshore area or New Orleans. There hasn't been much coverage there.

IMO, the fact that the W/T hasn't come forward makes me think even more than the truck was indeed involved. Did anyone catch that suddenly the LE is acknowledging they are still seeking the truck/driver? I'm wondering if this isn't another clue pointing toward the forensics coming back with info from the bike... maybe they finally go some data on the paint (if any) on the bike. Hence, now they are looking into the W/T again. Did they really stop? If so, seriously????!!

 

[Mahouston69]

Say, is that a white truck you're driving?

:waitasec:

Beat me to it!

 

[Labikegirl]

My only point is that if a child is starting fires and killing animals...there is a serious problem, not something he/she will "outgrow" on their own. Obviously my opinion only.

But...if anyone there in Lafayette happens to know someone who was killing animals and starting fires twenty or so years ago...may be time to take a second look at that person and try to find out where they were on the night in question...

I think the biggest issue we have with "problem" children now is they are all put on drugs early on. It may mask the behaviour that would have been noticed early on in the past. So in this instance, if a child had an issue he/she would have been medicated and maybe Mom and Dad would have went on to work without really realizing the brevity of the situation.

In my situation, I have two sister's that in the past would have lived a life of immeasurable suffering. I am happy for medical science. It allows them to be happy, spirited women. In the case of a child that might be misdiagnosed with an attention issue, they do not get the help, just a medication that masks the real issue.

At some point, the pressure builds and steam needs to be released so to speak.

I guess my friends this happened on May 19th.

La- who worries she may have to be verified for being the queen of all things neurological.

 

[Miabella]

In dysfunctional families and also families dealing with a mentally ill member, you also find a child who is an over achiever who is gonna do everything more than right to make up for the disappointments of the mentally ill child. but, much to the disappointment of the fix it child they never seem to get the unconditional love and support as the mentally ill child. and the fix it child knows it, and grows to resent the sibling. the stresses in those kind of families have some very strange dynamics. Everyone is living a lie. one day, it will just explode. Sometimes with violence. rage and resentment runs very deep in some families, and most people never recognize the under current.

 

[Questioning]

I think it's entirely useless. Their essence is not having a conscience or any empathy. There is something wrong with these 'people' (I use that term loosely) on a soul level - if they even have souls. It's certainly nothing that the mental health profession will ever get a handle on because it's metaphysical. How they present in this world is just a manifestation of the spiritual problem, imho. What's really messed up is that many of them excel because of their unceasing drive for power and to win. 5 will get you 10 that the parade of famous faces (politicians, banskters, lawyers, celebrities, etc) on cable news are about 80% sociopaths. It's why We the People have such an uphill battle in righting the evil around us. They are so driven and tireless and there are HOARDS of them. Normal humans just don't have that kind of drive for power.

I am positive that whoever abducted Mickey is a sociopath. They feel no remorse whatsoever. The best that we can hope for is that he (or they) isn't inclined to commit murder and she is let go.

Not everyone with APD commits crimes. There are different levels. I saw one for a long time and he was coming to therapy voluntarily. We couldn't "solve" his problem but we could work on his social skills and behavioral therapy helped him to deal with his college professors without getting verbally nasty. You can't make them have a conscience but you can help them function better. Not everyone with this disorder goes out and does horrible things, the vast majority just have interpersonal problems.

and BTW, aside from criminals, police officers are the most likely to have this disorder... the military population also has a higher than average incidence of this disorder.

Just as not everyone with borderline personality disorder acts like Glen Close in Fatal Attraction, not everyone with antisocial personality disorder is a serial killer.

 

[Allusonz]

I still think he would have come forward. He could have been honest with the police about what he was doing without them necessarily telling his spouse. Better you admit where you were and what was up then have the police knocking on your door one day confronting you in front of said spouse/partner.

I think the only reason the W/T driver hasn't come forward that is an honest reason is that he:
a) Works out of town - offshore worker, only has a little time off and hasn't heard the news.
b) Lives in another area. Maybe the northshore area or New Orleans. There hasn't been much coverage there.

IMO, the fact that the W/T hasn't come forward makes me think even more than the truck was indeed involved. Did anyone catch that suddenly the LE is acknowledging they are still seeking the truck/driver? I'm wondering if this isn't another clue pointing toward the forensics coming back with info from the bike... maybe they finally go some data on the paint (if any) on the bike. Hence, now they are looking into the W/T again. Did they really stop? If so, seriously????!!

BBM

I am quite certain the forensics has returned by now.

I as well noted that the white truck has once again re-entered the MSM stories.

 

[Artis]

There is a big difference, not to be debated here necessarily, between mentally ill and evil. Some criminals are both but often, IMO, violent criminals are just plain evil, often from a young age. I am a complete believer in the theory that harming animals as a child leads to violent behavior as an adult, but is often disregarded as "harmless things kids do". Not.

THANK YOU FOR THAT! I'm an animal rights advocate. Part of the general sickness of all societies is tolerating ANY cruelty toward animals. Any kid that hurts animals (intentionally) will be a deranged adult. Some become serial killers, and some get jobs in 'science' and research facilities. My point is, they walk among us and some are even respected.

Yes, there is a huge difference between cold blooded evil and mental illness and the two should never be confused.

 

[Labikegirl]

I think it's entirely useless. Their essence is not having a conscience or any empathy. There is something wrong with these 'people' (I use that term loosely) on a soul level - if they even have souls..

I truly believe there are people who have no soul. I almost want to say for them earth is hell. The trick is to keep them away so you can enjoy your own little corner of heaven.

Sorry for OT but just could not resist.

LA

 

[Artis]

One of the Macdonald triad... it's kind of outdated, but cruelty to animals along with bedwetting and fascination with fires were thought to be major predictors of serious criminal behavior later in life.

Interesting. One of the other things I have zero tolerance for is arson.

 

[Foxfire]

I lean more toward the Pacman thing having to do with the May anniversary of Pacman...according to google it was that same weekend...not seeing any reason to connect it to Mickie, personally. JMO

In and of itself, I agree. However with the parallels in this case, I disagree. It would be prudent to check it out, imo.

 

[HouDat]

I truly believe there are people who have no soul.

Oh, so you've met...


...eh, nevermind. Too easy. ;]

 

[cluciano63]

In and of itself, I agree. However with the parallels in this case, I disagree. It would be prudent to check it out, imo.

I am not sure what parallels there are? I am not seeing any.

Also, as far as the white truck...LE never said they had stopped looking for it...the articles about the searches these past two days are the only recent articles, really, so the fact that the media mentioned the white truck does not have any forensic significance to me...just that they are restating that the truck has still not been found.

JMO

 

[Mahouston69]

In and of itself, I agree. However with the parallels in this case, I disagree. It would be prudent to check it out, imo.

SO, do I have this about right?

 

[Amster]

What does it matter if Mickey had life insurance or not?