Landscaper says Terri Horman wanted him to kill her husband!

[MsFacetious]

I have seen several references to a suspected affair on KH's part (with a coworker?). I think this was mentioned on NG and I've seen it in several comments. Does anyone know where that information originated or any specifics?

That was supposed to be the reason Terri gave the landscaper for wanting Kaine killed. It was on KGW.

This article says she was in an unhappy marriage and he had "hurt" her. They clarified on one of the newscasts last night or today (didn't sleep so they run together) to say "he hurt her by having an extramarital affair, possibly with a coworker at Intel."

http://www.kgw.com/news/Second-grade-student-missing-from-Skyline-Elementary-95670454.html

 

[snarkymalarkey]

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/201...n-tried-to-have-kyron-horman’s-father-killed/

"The landscaper told authorities investigating Kyron Horman’s disappearance about the alleged plot, agreeing to take part in a sting operation on June 26. That day the unidentified landscaper, wearing a wire, and an undercover cop met up with Terri Horman to discuss the murder-for-hire plot. But Terri Horman, possibly suspicious, abruptly cut the conversation short. A few hours later, Kaine Horman is told about the alleged plot and he and the couple’s 19-month-old baby girl move out."

I'm a bit behind in my reading, but I found it interesting (according to this article), that the landscaper wore a wire.

 

[rosiebean]

Does Intel have excellent benefits, including a life insurance plan?

Given my experience (between my employment history and my husbands, which include very similar companies), Intel most likely (very likely) has fairly generous life insurance benefits. Whether said benefits are extremely 'generous' depends on your personal expectations, IMO. The norm at each company (and university) I have worked for as a senior-level staff member has been that I am automatically given a set amount of life ins. benefits, between .5x and 1.5x my annual salary. I have always been given the option to buy additional benefits at a fairly minimal cost (not too minimal, as there have been years when I have not opted to buy additional insurance). My husband's benefits are very similar to mine.

My husband is an engineer and makes a very (very) nice salary, and he pays a little extra for additional life insurance since we've had kids. And quite frankly, while, say, 3x my husband's salary isn't anything to sneeze at, it's no where near the huge amount I'd imagine would be needed to tempt someone into murder. Honestly, I can't imagine anyone being remotely tempted unless the life insurance figures reached well into seven figures...and a seven figure life insurance policy would not be, in my experience, something standard to KH as a benefit of Intel.

 

[jessigirl]

I doubt we'll ever know the truth about why the Landscaper came forward...but I cant help wondering if the person who pointed the finger at him was non other than TH.

Yes its counter-intuitive but TH is likely acting like a trapped wounded animal and lashing out in all directions. Maybe she thought she could defend herself by going on the offensive and picking someone else to sit on LE's hot-seat for the abduction of Kyron.

Plausible?

Above BBM. It is said that detectives, when investigating&interviewing ALL people that would have possible access to Kyron(any at all even limited access)that
is when they discovered the landscaper that had been hired by TMH(which investigators also thought strange that Kaine was not even aware of this landscaper that supposedly was doing work at their home)but when investigating and questioning this person is how and when this "murder for hire" plot came to light... But I believe we will know for sure AFTER the responsible party is arrested and we are allowed to see such documents that would infact "back up" all of this info, or negate it, whichever is the case...
Here's the link with full story of how investigators found the said landscaper involved in the "murder for hire" scheme of Kaine Horman...
http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2010/07/landscaper_tells_police_terri.html

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Is he a POI?What does he drive?Were his cars and house checked?I am very interested in this guy.I really hope they are looking into him.

 

[liz b.]

The whole thing with the landscape guy as a potential hitman sounds.... nutty. You just couldn't make this stuff up. But,because I do not think this has anything to do with Kyron's disappearance, I will label it as merely being...clutter.

All JMO

 

[Emma Peel]

I wonder if her earlier 911 call that day was actually to complain about the landscaper somehow threatening her. What a crazy idea, huh?

 

[cluciano63]

I think the landscaper is beside the point. I think LE came across him in Terri's contacts in her computer as a landscaper. I don't think she was involved with him more than that, and perhaps, stupidly, asking him to kill Kaine. I will be very surprised if he has anything more to add.

I do think Kaine probably has decent life insurance thru his job and maybe more in 401K, etc...probably a decent chunk if added all together.

 

[human]

the landscaper could be someone that she has known for a long time. Maybe it was a former BF from high school, for all we know.

 

[MsFacetious]

Spouses have killed each other for $20k or less in life insurance. You don't even have to get into 6 figures, much less 7. I very very rarely hear of a murder for life insurance that was for 7 figures. $500k is about the most you hear of with the rare exceptions of million dollar policy's or more.

If you already want your spouse dead, the life insurance would just be a bonus. Terri was a teacher so she was not used to a huge income. I would imagine she would likely be happy with a $250k policy and a $500k policy would be huge to her. It all depends on what income you are accustomed to in the first place.

Given my experience (between my employment history and my husbands, which include very similar companies), Intel most likely (very likely) has fairly generous life insurance benefits. Whether said benefits are extremely 'generous' depends on your personal expectations, IMO. The norm at each company (and university) I have worked for as a senior-level staff member has been that I am automatically given a set amount of life ins. benefits, between .5x and 1.5x my annual salary. I have always been given the option to buy additional benefits at a fairly minimal cost (not too minimal, as there have been years when I have not opted to buy additional insurance). My husband's benefits are very similar to mine.

My husband is an engineer and makes a very (very) nice salary, and he pays a little extra for additional life insurance since we've had kids. And quite frankly, while, say, 3x my husband's salary isn't anything to sneeze at, it's no where near the huge amount I'd imagine would be needed to tempt someone into murder. Honestly, I can't imagine anyone being remotely tempted unless the life insurance figures reached well into seven figures...and a seven figure life insurance policy would not be, in my experience, something standard to KH as a benefit of Intel.

 

[Soulmagent]

Spouses have killed each other for $20k or less in life insurance. You don't even have to get into 6 figures, much less 7. I very very rarely hear of a murder for life insurance that was for 7 figures. $500k is about the most you hear of with the rare exceptions of million dollar policy's or more.

If you already want your spouse dead, the life insurance would just be a bonus. Terri was a teacher so she was not used to a huge income. I would imagine she would likely be happy with a $250k policy and a $500k policy would be huge to her. It all depends on what income you are accustomed to in the first place.

What if she wanted him dead because he is /was about to figure out what has happened to Kyron? If she felt he was questioning to much and she was getting close to the answers?

 

[RoughlyCollie]

Honestly, I can't imagine anyone being remotely tempted unless the life insurance figures reached well into seven figures...and a seven figure life insurance policy would not be, in my experience, something standard to KH as a benefit of Intel.

I would be shocked to an extreme if anyone I knew was tempted to kill someone in order to get their hands on life insurance proceeds or for any other unlawful reason.

The amount of money they would get is beside the point. I mean, think of what has been established about them if they are not tempted to do that for $20,000, but will seriously consider it or actually do it for $1,000,000.

If there is one thing I know about myself, it is that I would not unlawfully kill anyone for any amount of money, even if it were $1 billion and there was no chance I would get caught.

I think the vast majority of people are like me. I have wondered lately what percentage of people in the U.S. would kill someone unlawfully if the reward were large enough to meet their requirements, though.

 

[RoughlyCollie]

It all depends on what income you are accustomed to in the first place.

Since TH didn't work for very long as a teacher, I think it would depend on the lifestyle she is currently accustomed to, or perhaps wanted to become accustomed to. The income she is accustomed to is KH's income.

All of this IMO.

 

[AbbieNormal]

Why didn't the landscaper report this before now?

Possible reasons:

Criminal background
Illegal immigrant
Other reasons to fear law enforcement
"Didn't want to get involved" and felt turning her down was his only obligation
Perhaps she convinced him she'd changed her mind since he wouldn't do it


**RESPECTFULLY SNIPPED FOR SPACE**

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BBM. I completely agree w/ your reasons why lawn guy didn't go to LE months ago. All of those reasons went through my own mind as well.

abbie

 

[Reality Orlando]

Spouses have killed each other for $20k or less in life insurance. You don't even have to get into 6 figures, much less 7. I very very rarely hear of a murder for life insurance that was for 7 figures. $500k is about the most you hear of with the rare exceptions of million dollar policy's or more.

If you already want your spouse dead, the life insurance would just be a bonus. Terri was a teacher so she was not used to a huge income. I would imagine she would likely be happy with a $250k policy and a $500k policy would be huge to her. It all depends on what income you are accustomed to in the first place.

Well, from what I've read, TH had a DUI conviction in 2005 while her bio son was in the car with her and was also was charged with reckless endangerment of another. I doubt with those charges in her background she'd be teaching again. Most school districts do extensive background checks and I can't see any hiring someone with that record. So, if her marriage was falling apart and if some of these allegations are true, her perceived inability to support herself could be the driving force behind her actions. Just a thought.

 

[gliving]

The landscaper thread is closed, so I'll put this here.

"Police have confirmed a report that Terri Horman tried to pay another as yet unnamed landscaper to kill her husband, Kaine Horman, in 2009. That landscaper reportedly contacted police after the alleged murder for hire offer."


http://www.katu.com/news/local/97845894.html

Oh Terri, what have you done?

 

[Calliope]

The landscaper thread is closed, so I'll put this here.

"Police have confirmed a report that Terri Horman tried to pay another as yet unnamed landscaper to kill her husband, Kaine Horman, in 2009. That landscaper reportedly contacted police after the alleged murder for hire offer."


http://www.katu.com/news/local/97845894.html

Oh Terri, what have you done?

That's the one referred to in the Sunday Oregonian article, not a second murder-for-hire attempt.

Meanwhile, a landscaper recently hired by the Hormans said he was contacted by detectives and cooperated with the investigation. He said he just did landscaping for the family.

Police have confirmed a report that Terri Horman tried to pay another as yet unnamed landscaper to kill her husband, Kaine Horman, in 2009. That landscaper reportedly contacted police after the alleged murder for hire offer.

 

[gliving]

That's the one referred to in the Sunday Oregonian article, not a second murder-for-hire attempt.[/QUOTE

It is a bit misleading. It reads as if she hired two landscapers.

 

[ClueMeIn]

Police have confirmed a report that Terri Horman tried to pay another as yet unnamed landscaper to kill her husband, Kaine Horman, in 2009. That landscaper reportedly contacted police after the alleged murder for hire offer.

We need a thinking cap smiley! Hmmmmmmm...

 

[ClueMeIn]

So how I am reading this is that some other landscaper, reported right after she asked him?