Lisa Stebic-Plainfield, IL mother of 2 Part 2

[j2mirish]

THose are my thoughts too... As a kid our family did vacation to Alpha mi. It's a 8 hour drive way up in the UP both ways, and I would say no way did make that trip, unless he left his kids alone all night and possibly drove both ways on adrenalin. And did anyone recall seeing him in the hours between the time he reportedly last saw Lisa Monday and when he reportedly sought info from the neighbors Tues am. That was would have entailed a 16 hour drive..... or who knows, there are small private airfields nearby so who knows. Especially having family from the North shore.... could easily have contacts that route.

Sheltering the kids from the media is one thing, sheltering while cooperating is another. If my sons bio ( an absent sporadic parent at best) was missing, I would be out there full force looking because it is in my sons best interest. Contacting his associates, family and friends.....

I have been meaning to do a little more research on Craigs atty. I find it odd, a dv/family attorney would involve himself in a criminal investigation.......My hinky meter is questionable about him.... especially knowing the corruption in cook, and so many cook atty's left that county for the surrounding burbs.

was she last seen when she left work at the school? so like 2:00? where do the kids go after school? straight home, did Lisa take them with her-- aside from alot of things- the fact he wont let the children talk to police-- says it ALL-the only thing I would ask, is if he could he let them talk to the police in his presence? ( you know, like he was concerned with what they would say or do ---like an innocent persom might be, concerned for their kids)-

 

[Cubby]

was she last seen when she left work at the school? so like 2:00? where do the kids go after school? straight home, did Lisa take them with her-- aside from alot of things- the fact he wont let the children talk to police-- says it ALL-the only thing I would ask, is if he could he let them talk to the police in his presence? ( you know, like he was concerned with what they would say or do ---like an innocent persom might be, concerned for their kids)-

There is an early post she was seen at a sandwhich/sub/ fast food place she regularly visited after leaving/on her way home from the school. It was probably in the first thread, maybe someone who recalls exactly where could pull up the link.

I don't recall any mention of the children being seen after leaving school or the sandwhich shop....other than the discrepancy between them going to Walgreens or Jewel food for candy.

Good question.

I'm still interested in the CS timeline between Mon the 30th and Tues the 1st. Someone had to see if he left home late at night.... heard the unusual car starting, or saw neighbors who may have routinely arrived home late. and if someone saw, how long was he gone?

Has LE subpeona'd the DV shelter in Joliet where Lisa (and supposedly) the children sought counseling? With CS not allowing contact with the children, perhaps those records might shed some additional light.

 

[JMO8778]

I'm new to this thread and haven't had a whole lot of time to read about it,but I just saw it on a news site and it said the husband is not a suspect...WHY???? It seems he of all ppl would be the one w. the best motive.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I saw it live and my impression of his father was that he talked as if he were uneducated. Really there were only a few slight things that I picked up on...

1. as I mentioned before Joe stebic refered to lisa in the Past tense. It could mean nothing, but it could also be an unintentional slip.

2. when LK asked "Mark do you suspect Craig?" Joe stebic answered "YES" meaning that Mark does suspect craig. B4 Mark could even begin to answer.

If Joe Stebic thought he was helping his son by being on LKL, IMO he was mistaken.

I believe that "Yes" from Joe Stebic was only him saying yes in response thinking King was talking to him. As in, "Yes?" Like a person will do when they aren't sure if they are being addressed. It is what it looked to me in the interview anyway. It wasn't a yes to him suspecting Craig in any way. He stated repeatedly he didn't believe his son had anything to do with it. No freudian slips there, IMO.

I think a lot of people talk about the missing in past terminology. It doesn't raise any flags for me that Joe did this. As you said, he could be rather uneducated and this would be how he perceived things. She is gone (missing) and so past tense is natural. More educated people normally don't do this because they tend to be more aware and thoughtful of things they say before they say them. Make sense?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

ok, that story is from january 22, 2007....oops!

Yes, I wasn't saying it could be her (I knew the date and should have mentioned it. Sorry!)...but it gave me the thought he could have dumped her in Chicago instead of the woods. Didn't mean to confuse anyone!

 

[gidget641]

I believe that "Yes" from Joe Stebic was only him saying yes in response thinking King was talking to him. As in, "Yes?" Like a person will do when they aren't sure if they are being addressed. It is what it looked to me in the interview anyway. It wasn't a yes to him suspecting Craig in any way. He stated repeatedly he didn't believe his son had anything to do with it. No freudian slips there, IMO.

I think a lot of people talk about the missing in past terminology. It doesn't raise any flags for me that Joe did this. As you said, he could be rather uneducated and this would be how he perceived things. She is gone (missing) and so past tense is natural. More educated people normally don't do this because they tend to be more aware and thoughtful of things they say before they say them. Make sense?

I kinda took his "yes" to mean that he feels that mark does think Craig is guilty. However, it is one of those things I would love to listen to it again. If anyone knows of a link to any video or audio file of the interview please post them.

And like I said it may not mean a darn thing that he refered to her in the past tense. But it stood out to me.

 

[j2mirish]

I believe that "Yes" from Joe Stebic was only him saying yes in response thinking King was talking to him. As in, "Yes?" Like a person will do when they aren't sure if they are being addressed. It is what it looked to me in the interview anyway. It wasn't a yes to him suspecting Craig in any way. He stated repeatedly he didn't believe his son had anything to do with it. No freudian slips there, IMO.

I think a lot of people talk about the missing in past terminology. It doesn't raise any flags for me that Joe did this. As you said, he could be rather uneducated and this would be how he perceived things. She is gone (missing) and so past tense is natural. More educated people normally don't do this because they tend to be more aware and thoughtful of things they say before they say them. Make sense?

I agree with you on this case-- when sp said laci in past tense it was different-imo

 

[kinsey milhoune]

Hi All, well this one is in my neighborhood! The Jewel is quite a ride for two young kids on a bike. They have to cross Rt. 30 which is a busy highway & then it's still a good ride for them. If he sent them with money to get candy, there is a Walgreens right there at Rt. 30 and they wouldn't have to cross it!

Seems he wanted them gone longer & going to Jewel would buy him more time! Also, there is a lot of new home construction in the area, lots of places he could leave a body. He wouldn't have to go too far.

I and a lot of other people are worried about the children being with him, wish LE had some way to get them away from him. He sure seems like another SP, lying his way out of things & thinking he won't get caught. With no activity on her cell phone or credit cards, it's not looking good at all for her.


I have a feeling her body will be found soon, by someone working outside in the area. I don't think he went too far with her. I do worry that he'll skip out though with the kids, don't think he can take the heat like old SP did!

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I'm new to this thread and haven't had a whole lot of time to read about it,but I just saw it on a news site and it said the husband is not a suspect...WHY???? It seems he of all ppl would be the one w. the best motive.

The police just haven't NAMED him as a suspect yet because they don't have enough to arrest him. He does have GREAT motive and opportunity. He puts himself as last having seen her alive. He had sent the kids on bikes to a store to get candy which was the very time he says Lisa went missing. Not to mention the tarp found in his truck with drops of Lisa's blood on it.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I agree with you on this case-- when sp said laci in past tense it was different-imo

SP is supposed to be an educated man and him talking about Lacy in the past tense WAS very telling. I wonder how Craig talks about Lisa to the kids. Hmmmm...

 

[JMO8778]

The police just haven't NAMED him as a suspect yet because they don't have enough to arrest him. He does have GREAT motive and opportunity. He puts himself as last having seen her alive. He had sent the kids on bikes to a store to get candy which was the very time he says Lisa went missing. Not to mention the tarp found in his truck with drops of Lisa's blood on it.

Ok,thx so much...looks like that would be enough to arrest him for suspicion of murder??

 

[ihadcabinfever]

I think he snapped. I think after the kids went to the store she told him she was having him evicted. He saw things wern't going as he wanted. I really think they need to dig up his garden, and check under the house. I think she's really close to home.

I have been thinking about this and I think she was sleeping with her purse near her because he was snooping through it along with her cell phone which was probably in the purse.
Either he came across the paper work she filled out to mail back to the Lawyer or he may have intercepted it in the mailbox because he worked 20 minutes away from home. Either way this had to be what triggered her to "dissapear" I don't think she's near home.


He knew about the Exercise Friend post so he was watching her computer activity.

What surprises me is him being the "great hunter" what is he doing in that type of neighborhood? The houses are very nice but their isn't much property. Great for kids but for him, no. So let's give him that much,he did compromise. :boohoo:

One more thing , if he did leave after the kids went to bed I don't think the neighbors would realize who was coming or going if they thought it was her pulling in or out if she went out after exercise class.

I have no idea why this man has a AK 47 but it really bothers me , more so the Nasty Hangun he has. He probably has attachments
(ya know what I mean)
I am sure she was sleeping with one eye open. I hope they looked that bathroom over good because she was probably showering or getting dressed when he approached her with the paperwork , that's proabably his window of opportunity to rummage through her purse and "He found it "
Then lost it. She talked to her lawyer earlier saying she would mail it, I wonder if he did?

I know their must be a few wives through his Hunting & Fishing CLUB that does not like him and that must have him sweating.

He must have a few feathers ruffled in the Local too, "riding the gravy train" working 20 minutes from home for the last 5 years. Anyway this sounds like Foremans Salary. $80,000.00

 

[philamena]

SP is supposed to be an educated man and him talking about Lacy in the past tense WAS very telling. I wonder how Craig talks about Lisa to the kids. Hmmmm...

Another good question.Just seems like it's good sense for LE to take this guy in and question him again.
I hope and pray Lisa is found soon.

 

[micaelasmama]

Yes, I wasn't saying it could be her (I knew the date and should have mentioned it. Sorry!)...but it gave me the thought he could have dumped her in Chicago instead of the woods. Didn't mean to confuse anyone!

no, im sorry! i was meaning that i was reading the story and getting excited that maybe it could have been lisa. then i read the date. my fault!

 

[ocean]

wasn't cs charged previously w/a felony????I thought it was illegal for felons to have fire arms in their possession???

 

[twinkiesmom]

<<What surprises me is him being the "great hunter" what is he doing in that type of neighborhood? The houses are very nice but their isn't much property. Great for kids but for him, no. So let's give him that much,he did compromise. >>

If you live in another area, let me tell you that I am not surprised that this is the property he owns. Real estate in the Chicago metropolitan area is very expensive, and you'd have to be a millionaire (or at least a 6 figure income) to own acreage within commuting distance.

It's not a compromise on his part...he was raised in this area and decided to stay.

Most hunters I know here own their suburban houses and drive up to WI or MI..

 

[ihadcabinfever]

http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/napervillesun/news/stebic/399098,6_1_NA24_MISSING_S1.article

Father refuses to let police question children


Why would he feel the need to protect the children from the Police? Anyone knows that they would be very delicate with them , they know what they are doing. I wish he would just let them ask
"Did anyone bother Mommy lately?" Did she talk to someone you did not recognize? What stores have you been at lately, anything would be helpful. I am sure they would feel better if they did talk to them . It would make them feel helpful.
If he continues to block them from helping them , it puts the focus back on him. Even if they set in advance not to pressure them about any fighting , but just to ask if anyone was annoying Mommy would be great.

 

[ihadcabinfever]

And if anyone thinks those kids are not hearing the undertones at School they are wrong. Some people let their kids watch the news. It is in the newspapers the flyers all all over town. They are not being sheltered from anything. They are being gagged and they probably hear the undertones in the hallway and the lunch room and recess. Remember what School was like?

That is a pretty cruel position to put a child in. Especially the 12 year old girl.
That picture of the Aunt holding the girl's shoulder is heartbreaking .You can see a bit of comfort in that child's face. These kids are just trying to cope. Pray for these kids.....and her sisters.........

A little relief
http://www.suburbanchicagonews.com/heraldnews/news/399611,JO24_MISSING_P1.fullimage

 

[strach304]

Windchime, on that map you posted from the house to Dial Corp. shows a cemetary. I remember during the LP case before Scott was arrested he was seen going into the cemetary and some wondered if he put Laci there. That was before she was found of course. It made me wonder if Craig may have done this with Lisa.

I know I read something recently online about disposing of bodies in new graves where a coffin is about to be placed. So maybe he didn't have to predig a grave and it's right on his route to work. If he thought it out and knew they'd use dogs the trail would end there or confuse them.

 

[Dryad]

I know to some this may mean nothing because they were in the middle of a divorce or maybe because of the nature of his job, but I just noticed that Craig is not wearing his wedding ring in those pictures. Kind of odd considering they were still physically living in the same house and he's "weeping uncontrollably".