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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/walker_james.html

Note: The thread under "Missing But Not Forgotten"; "2000- cases"; "VA: James Walker"
another poster on WS states LLW as the prison "inmate" from info in the above link.
Note what the link says the "inmate" told investigators where to look for JW's remains?!!

And how does this person on WS know that LLW was the inmate telling LE where to look? A grown man doesn't fit the profile of a guy who rapes young girls. JMO


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http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/w/walker_james.html

http://m.wdbj7.com/video/lyon-sisters-case-puts-another-investigation-into-spotlight/28996158

The thread was started in September 2014.
It's under "Missing But Not Forgotten"; "2000-cases"; VA: "James Walker"

Check out both links and read whole new thread listed above.

James Davis Walker is an older man CURRENTLY MISSING
from Bedford County, VA since April 7, 2000.

I'm aware of his case. My question is how would a member of WS know if LLW is the inmate mentioned on the charley project?


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That's my same question.
I have posed that question to the person on the thread?
The person also posts on these threads about the Lyon sisters.
From what I recall, that person has said they are relatives.
I didn't see anywhere that LE revealed to the public that LLW, Jr. was the "inmate."
So, I'm waiting for beachlvr0810's reply.
 
10-05-2014, 11:33 PM #468 beachlvr0810 beachlvr0810 is offline
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Quote Originally Posted by Motherof5 View Post
I think the girls will be found in that family cemetery that LE is taking about...JMO. I did some checking and according to findagrave,that cemetery has 70 unmarked graves. As far as how and where they were taken from...I still think, as I always have, that the girls were taken from the wooded path(short cut) between their house and the mall. I think Welch and whatever family members helped him,were parked in the parking lot on the other side of the trees that run along the wooded path. It would have been quick and easy. LE says that they know who is responsible,"every last one of them." I can't wait to see every last one of them pay. Prayers for the Lyon family.
Quoted from beachlvr0810
10-05-2014 11:33 PM:

I don't know which cemetery you looked up on findagrave.com but apparently you looked at the wrong one. The old cemetery on the property that is being searched is the Pomp Overstreet cemetery. And they are not digging in the cemetery...they are digging and searching above the cemetery as I was told by a Bedford investigator. My phone number was given to the Commonwealth Attorney who had 2 investigators get in touch with me because I have a Facebook page called Taylor's Mountain Descendents. The investigators came to my house and questioned me about my page and about the cemetery hunting and documenting that I do. I shared everything I had with them and assured them I would be available for anything further they might need. Lloyd Lee Welch, Jr's aunt is a part of my family and a wonderful Christian woman who has not seen or talked to him since he was young. She is 85 years old, hurt and is devastated by all of this. The Welch family here on the mountain are not the monsters that some of these news reports and comments are making them out to be.
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.

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10-05-2014, 11:33 PM #468 beachlvr0810 beachlvr0810 is offline
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Quote Originally Posted by Motherof5 View Post
I think the girls will be found in that family cemetery that LE is taking about...JMO. I did some checking and according to findagrave,that cemetery has 70 unmarked graves. As far as how and where they were taken from...I still think, as I always have, that the girls were taken from the wooded path(short cut) between their house and the mall. I think Welch and whatever family members helped him,were parked in the parking lot on the other side of the trees that run along the wooded path. It would have been quick and easy. LE says that they know who is responsible,"every last one of them." I can't wait to see every last one of them pay. Prayers for the Lyon family.
Quoted from beachlvr0810
10-05-2014 11:33 PM:

I don't know which cemetery you looked up on findagrave.com but apparently you looked at the wrong one. The old cemetery on the property that is being searched is the Pomp Overstreet cemetery. And they are not digging in the cemetery...they are digging and searching above the cemetery as I was told by a Bedford investigator. My phone number was given to the Commonwealth Attorney who had 2 investigators get in touch with me because I have a Facebook page called Taylor's Mountain Descendents. The investigators came to my house and questioned me about my page and about the cemetery hunting and documenting that I do. I shared everything I had with them and assured them I would be available for anything further they might need. Lloyd Lee Welch, Jr's aunt is a part of my family and a wonderful Christian woman who has not seen or talked to him since he was young. She is 85 years old, hurt and is devastated by all of this. The Welch family here on the mountain are not the monsters that some of these news reports and comments are making them out to be.
When we remember we are all mad, the mysteries disappear and life stands explained.

Mark Twain

I haven't read anything from anyone saying bad things about the family of LLW. They are not evil just because he is.


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That's my same question.
I have posed that question to the person on the thread?
The person also posts on these threads about the Lyon sisters.
From what I recall, that person has said they are relatives.
I didn't see anywhere that LE revealed to the public that LLW, Jr. was the "inmate."
So, I'm waiting for beachlvr0810's reply.

LE has never said that Mr. Walker's case has anything to do with this case. This man's own children haven't either. The people of Bedford are saying they'd never even heard of the Lyon case until LE showed up. I don't see a connection between a grown man going missing decades after two little girls are abducted. Not even given the area he went missing from. Maybe I'm crazy.


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That's my same question.
I have posed that question to the person on the thread?
The person also posts on these threads about the Lyon sisters.
From what I recall, that person has said they are relatives.
I didn't see anywhere that LE revealed to the public that LLW, Jr. was the "inmate."
So, I'm waiting for beachlvr0810's reply.

You are referring to me. I had the Lyon sister's case on my mind when talking about the "inmate" in James Walker's case. Lloyd Lee "Michael" Welch, Jr. is not the inmate they mention in the news articles as telling the police where James is located. You have to understand we have 2 investigations going on here with 2 separate cases, both of which involve missing persons and inmates. As of right now, the investigation has moved off the mountain concerning the Lyon sisters but the investigation into James' disappearance is still going on. If you would like to talk to me away from WS, feel free to send me a private message on my TMD facebook page.
 
Where did you get your info from. I heard the Glady Mae married two diff Welch's. But I maybe wrong.
You are right, she did marry 2 Welches and the information as to there being 2 Gladys Maes is wrong, there was only one Gladys Mae.
 
I've done the family tree and it took over a week. Grandpa Welch married, had kids and his wife died. He then married again and had more kids. Both women were named Gladys Mae and that made the entire thing very confusing. Richard is the only living brother of LLW Sr. So if there is another uncle involved, he'd have to be LLW Sr's brother-in-law,married to one if his sisters or the brother of one of his 2 wives. This family tree makes my face hurt
Could everybody please be kind with your comments, these are my relatives. No matter what you may think of Michael Welch, there are still innocent family members here.
 
Richard may be the only LIVING brother, but depending on the family tree, would not Lloyd's father also be an "uncle" to the same person that Richard is an uncle to?

Uncle is also used informally as any older, male, family member. In general, an uncle or father would be the one to go to for help getting out of trouble; the uncle might have just been closer. Was the father still alive in 1975? Planning such serious crimes with family members I think is less common, but Richard would know more about this.

But I think the "uncle" was just Lloyd as described in my previous post. With the father now dead from a motorcycle accident in the 70s or 80s?, the police would not worry about ruining his reputation or his life as if he was a living person, and I can't see why the police would not list him as a person of interest if they had even a hunch about him; one of his motorcycle or drinking buddies in theory could come forward say say, "he told me he helped his son bury bodies." Not that decades old hearsay, even if true, is good enough for a court.

I don't think Lloyd Wlech's criminal background would make it into court either. Even knowing what Lloyd was convicted of, many of the people here don't think it's him, much less beyond a reasonable doubt. IMHO, the police have an uphill case against Lloyd assuming his criminal background is inadmissible.

Michael Welch's father was not the one killed in a motorcycle accident from what I'm told, it was another uncle.
 
I've done the family tree and it took over a week. Grandpa Welch married, had kids and his wife died. He then married again and had more kids. Both women were named Gladys Mae and that made the entire thing very confusing. Richard is the only living brother of LLW Sr. So if there is another uncle involved, he'd have to be LLW Sr's brother-in-law,married to one if his sisters or the brother of one of his 2 wives. This family tree makes my face hurt
Could everybody please be kind with your comments, these are my relatives. No matter what you may think of Michael Welch, there are still innocent family members here.

I haven't said anything bad about the Welch family with the exception of LLW Jr. He is not a good person and that is why he is locked up. His actions are not a reflection of the family. ANY large family tree would make my face hurt. That wasn't an insult to the Welch family. I have however, read many unkind FB comments made by family members of the POI's about the victims,the family of the victims and LE searching on "their mountain". They invite hostile comments. As far as my work on the family tree being wrong. Really? I guess that means that the immediate family of Welch's are wrong about their family tree because they are the ones who offered the info. I'm sorry if the Welch family is having a hard time right now but they are not the the actual victims here. Two little girls were taken and murdered. Their family has suffered beyond comprehension for 39 years. I can promise you that anything that the Welch family might be going through right now,is NOTHING compared to what the Lyon family has had to endure. Not even close. It's getting off track in here. Talk to you all after LE gives us more facts.


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I haven't said anything bad about the Welch family with the exception of LLW Jr. He is not a good person and that is why he is locked up. His actions are not a reflection of the family. ANY large family tree would make my face hurt. That wasn't an insult to the Welch family. I have however, read many unkind FB comments made by family members of the POI's about the victims,the family of the victims and LE searching on "their mountain". They invite hostile comments. As far as my work on the family tree being wrong. Really? I guess that means that the immediate family of Welch's are wrong about their family tree because they are the ones who offered the info. I'm sorry if the Welch family is having a hard time right now but they are not the the actual victims here. Two little girls were taken and murdered. Their family has suffered beyond comprehension for 39 years. I can promise you that anything that the Welch family might be going through right now,is NOTHING compared to what the Lyon family has had to endure. Not even close. It's getting off track in here. Talk to you all after LE gives us more facts.


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nobody can judge what other families feel like. everybody's family is different and we are getting off the topic.
 
nobody can judge what other families feel like. everybody's family is different and we are getting off the topic.

I don't claim to know what the Welch family feels like but yes, I'm quite certain that having your daughters abducted and murdered is 1000 times worse than having something unkind said about your family. I do agree as I said above that we are getting off track.


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Richard,

Have you heard from Jeb? I was hoping he would come back given the new info. Like you, he has contributed a great deal to the forum.
 
I don't claim to know what the Welch family feels like but yes, I'm quite certain that having your daughters abducted and murdered is 1000 times worse than having something unkind said about your family. I do agree as I said above that we are getting off track.


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I understand what your saying but we have to wait until more stuff is release.
 
LE has never said that Mr. Walker's case has anything to do with this case. This man's own children haven't either. The people of Bedford are saying they'd never even heard of the Lyon case until LE showed up. I don't see a connection between a grown man going missing decades after two little girls are abducted. Not even given the area he went missing from. Maybe I'm crazy.


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I certainly don't see how these two cases could be related other than the areas. But the Lyon sisters were abducted much further away in Maryland, then this man went missing in Bedford, VA, where the sisters might be buried. But considering the times when these took place, there's no way they could be connected? Besides, wasn't Welch in prison in Delaware by the time this man went missing in 2000?

And yes, this has gotten way off topic here about what people think of the Welch family. I'm not even interested in them. I just want to know what happened to the Lyon girls and where Lloyd Welch fits into this. As for the rest of his family, I really could care less unless they were in some way involved in the case.
 
I certainly don't see how these two cases could be related other than the areas. But the Lyon sisters were abducted much further away in Maryland, then this man went missing in Bedford, VA, where the sisters might be buried. But considering the times when these took place, there's no way they could be connected? Besides, wasn't Welch in prison in Delaware by the time this man went missing in 2000?

And yes, this has gotten way off topic here about what people think of the Welch family. I'm not even interested in them. I just want to know what happened to the Lyon girls and where Lloyd Welch fits into this. As for the rest of his family, I really could care less unless they were in some way involved in the case.

Agree 100%!! It is a good thing that LE is putting fresh eyes on the Walker case and hopefully they will find him. Like you, I don't see any connection and am only interested in finding Kate and Sheila as well as the people who took them.


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