Lost Girls: An Unsolved American Mystery by Robert Kolker

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Award-winning investigative reporter Robert Kolker delivers a haunting and humanizing account of the true-life search for a serial killer still at large on Long Island, in a compelling tale of unsolved murder and Internet prostitution.

One late spring evening in 2010, Shannan Gilbert, after running through the oceanfront community of Oak Beach screaming for her life, went missing. No one who had heard of her disappearance thought much about what had happened to the twenty-four-year-old: she was a Craigslist prostitute who had been fleeing a scene—of what, no one could be sure. The Suffolk County Police, too, seemed to have paid little attention—until seven months later, when an unexpected discovery in a bramble alongside a nearby highway turned up four bodies, all evenly spaced, all wrapped in burlap. But none of them Shannan's.

There was Maureen Brainard-Barnes, last seen at Penn Station in Manhattan three years earlier, and Melissa Barthelemy, last seen in the Bronx in 2009. There was Megan Waterman, last seen leaving a hotel in Hauppage, Long Island, just a month after Shannan's disappearance in 2010, and Amber Lynn Costello, last seen leaving a house in West Babylon a few months later that same year. Like Shannan, all four women were petite and in their twenties, they all came from out of town to work as escorts, and they all advertised on Craigslist and its competitor, Backpage.

In a triumph of reporting—and in a riveting narrative—Robert Kolker presents the first detailed look at the shadow world of escorts in the Internet age, where making a living is easier than ever and the dangers remain all too real. He has talked exhaustively with the friends and family of each woman to reveal the three-dimensional truths about their lives, the struggling towns they came from, and the dreams they chased. And he has gained unique access to the Oak Beach neighborhood that has found itself the focus of national media scrutiny—where the police have flailed, the body count has risen, and the neighbors have begun pointing fingers at one another. There, in a remote community, out of sight of the beaches and marinas scattered along the South Shore barrier islands, the women's stories come together in death and dark mystery. Lost Girls is a portrait not just of five women, but of unsolved murder in an idyllic part of America, of the underside of the Internet, and of the secrets we keep without admitting to ourselves that we keep them.
 
Dormer and Varrone laughed because the family members got dressed and combed their hair before they went out. Are they crazy? DH.

Looks like Dormer and Varrone weren't the only ones not impressed by the penchant of some people to get in front of the camera.

......The final half of the book deals with the police investigation, such as it was, and with the families. Grief brought them together for ...vigils ... but friction developed as some mothers were ....too fond of expressing themselves in the media......
 
Looks like Dormer and Varrone weren't the only ones not impressed by the penchant of some people to get in front of the camera.

......The final half of the book deals with the police investigation, such as it was, and with the families. Grief brought them together for ...vigils ... but friction developed as some mothers were ....too fond of expressing themselves in the media......

There has to be a reason why people turn against family members of victims. I would have to guess that it has less to do with the family and more ti do with those who show an outward hostility towards them.
 
There has to be a reason why people turn against family members of victims. I would have to guess that it has less to do with the family and more ti do with those who show an outward hostility towards them.

It appears the writer is saying that some of the victims families felt others were focusing on being in front of the camera to much, similar to what former and vaccone were saying.
 
I know, one of the best of those kind of things that I've seen.


Newsday weighs in on the book:

http://www.newsday.com/entertainment/books/lost-girls-explores-gilgo-murder-mystery-1.5646445

That woman was Shannan Gilbert, 24, "a tattoo of cherries on her left wrist, a scorpion tattooed on her back." She grew up in upstate Ellenville, where her old friends "say that half of their classmates are dead, in jail, or on drugs." Shannan's mother fobbed her off into foster care -- apparently because the child displeased one of the mother's boyfriends, according to Shannan's sister, who remained at home.

The "Lost Girls," Kolker concludes, "weren't angels. They weren't devils," - We sense him keeping his skirts clean, careful not to critique prostitution itself, a feature of "nearly every human civilization." No matter. We hear the howl of the victims' families clear enough.
 
SG was put into the foster care system because she displeased her mothers boyfriend. Its an empty statement with no meaning. It sounds like her mother picked her boyfriend over her daughter. We dont know that to be the case.
 
When it becomes politically incorrect to blame the victims, people start judging the families. In a way it's worse because the families are around to hear it.

Shaking my head.
 
It might not be that she displeased the mothers boyfriend. She may not have liked him. Started to run away, skip school, and became a bit of a wild child that would get her put into foster care.
 
It might not be that she displeased the mothers boyfriend. She may not have liked him. Started to run away, skip school, and became a bit of a wild child that would get her put into foster care.

Per the original post, an award winning investigative reporter who spoke extensively with family and friends of the victims, SG's sister said SG was sent to foster care because she displeased the mom's, MG's, boyfriend. Why imagine it was something else?
 
What I mean is how did she displease him? Did he just walk in one day and disliked her, and only her? I'm sure there had to of been fighting and stuff. Not, saying it's right. Or even SG fault. I would never date a guy if it came down to my daughter being in foster care.
 
What I mean is how did she displease him? Did he just walk in one day and disliked her, and only her? I'm sure there had to of been fighting and stuff. Not, saying it's right. Or even SG fault. I would never date a guy if it came down to my daughter being in foster care.

I would never give up a pet for a boyfriend. I cant imagine a child. We still dont know what happen. Im sure she has regrets. Anyway, all the family members should get all dolled up and head over to Suffolk Co. They should protest and demand justice. They should publically tell the Feds to take over.
 
I would never give up a pet for a boyfriend. I cant imagine a child. We still dont know what happen. Im sure she has regrets. Anyway, all the family members should get all dolled up and head over to Suffolk Co. They should protest and demand justice. They should publically tell the Feds to take over.

No kidding. My dog is more loyal then most people I meet anyways.
 
What I mean is how did she displease him? Did he just walk in one day and disliked her, and only her? I'm sure there had to of been fighting and stuff. Not, saying it's right. Or even SG fault. I would never date a guy if it came down to my daughter being in foster care.

Without knowing the facts, I'd speculate that as a typical teen, she'd let him know he wasn't her father, couldn't tell her what to do etc., maybe even let him know he was an a-hole on a regular basis. The disturbing part is that whether it was an ultimatum given to her, or a choice she made on her own, MG chose to keep her personal relationship with a man she knew over working to fix her relationship with her daughter. When that is combined with attention seeking on MG's part that irked even other KNOWN victims families, and an in my opinion frivolous lawsuit aimed at getting money, or the attention to garner donations, it raises serious questions in my mind regarding MG's motivation. The question being, did she lose her loving daughter tragically, years after giving her away, because of a potential payday, or is this really about justice for a daughter she believes was murdered? I personally don't have an opinion either way, but because money motivates a lot of odd behavior, I do have this question in my head.
 
the book is OUT..

time to read ...
and then.....

discuss.......

I've been waiting FOREVER for ya'll to read it....
 
New York Observer review:

http://observer.com/2013/07/on-the-...ial-killer-and-into-the-lives-of-the-victims/

From the review:

Meanwhile, the Suffolk County police appear incompetent and insensitive. Often when prostitutes are missing or murdered, their families claim that the police are lackluster in their investigations because they consider the victims at best a low priority and at worst dispensable. Mr. Kolker’s book lends credence to that view. At a public safety hearing, the chief of detectives called it a “consolation” that the killer wasn’t “selecting citizens at large—he’s selecting from a pool.” Prostitutes are “very available, they’re very vulnerable, they’re willing to get into a car with a stranger,” he continued. Just don’t be a hooker, he was suggesting, and you don’t have to worry. That same chief, Dominick Varrone, tells Mr. Kolker that “greed gets the best of them. In fact, most of them are in the business that they’re in because it’s an easy way to make money, because they’re greedy.”
 
There has to be a reason why people turn against family members of victims. I would have to guess that it has less to do with the family and more ti do with those who show an outward hostility towards them.

I would like to reinerate
 
Spitzer Press Conference...


NYC

Eliot Spitzer in the middle.
LOOK at all that press!!!omg.
 

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