LP's Confidence

[TURBOTHINK]

Why don't these tipsters and snitchers go straight to LE? Is it because they are accomplices? Is it because their information is unreliable? Why?

None of those reasons. There are police "informers" (which are usually a deal to get cut loose later or out of something they already did) and then there are "ears on the street"..........The "ears" don't want ANY involvement with LE.

It is not that they are even wanted for anything themselves, but they don't want to get involved. By giving the info to a third person (bounty hunter) they stay totally out of it, but yet the info gets investigated. It takes time and a lot of contacts on the street to get that type of information. It also takes trust and LP has been in the business long enough the trust factor is there with him or any of his men.

 

[kgeaux]

Wouldn't it be interesting to find ALL of LP's statements and put them in a thread in chronological order with NO DISCUSSION. (Not saying actually do it) I just think his story changes as much as KC's.

I believe Boston had begun to collect the "leonardisms" a while back. I KNOW Leonard has changed his story more than Casey. She is still sticking to the "babysitter done it." last we heard, but Leonard has had more "bombshells" and "mark my words" than anyone else I've ever met!

How long ago was this latest story on WFTV posted?

http://www.wftv.com/news/18401963/detail.html

More contradictions from LP! He says in here that he talked to DC on November 15. Didn't he say on HLN two days ago that he talked to him on December 15 or 16?

His details of the conversation would tend to reflect an earlier date than after the discovery of the body.

Why don't these tipsters and snitchers go straight to LE? Is it because they are accomplices? Is it because their information is unreliable? Why?

Who says they aren't going to LE? Just ask the meter reader how well LE follows up on tips.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Sorry, but I am going to have to disagree on LP being 'tight' with LE and the FBI. First and foremost they are not going to or work with anyone in an official capacity who may be a detriment to their case or fodder for a defense team. While LP may be an excellent bounty hunter, at least that is what he says, he is not a peace officer or certified LE officer. If they are interacting with him at all, they more than likely consider him a 'snitch' to use the common term and will accept any info he gives them (with a grain of salt) but that is the extent of it. LP hung around the crime scene until LE left and I am sure he picked up little bits of info here and there as did most of the media - but none of these tidbits have been verified or confirmed by LE and they won't be.

I would not be surprised to hear that FBI Agent Nick S. is now undergoing some serious ribbing from his co-workers about having LP 'drop' his name on NG. If anyone does know anyone in LE locally or even statewide - ask them their opinion of LP - I am willing to bet a nickel (only kidding Mods, I would never promote gambling here on WS) that the majority of opinions are going to be negative. Why? Because LP is only making LE's job harder with all his theories and statements on TV and in the media.

LP has opened this up for LE. He is tight with LE in many states, and I can verify that. The FBI uses many venues to get the information they want.

 

[Chilly Willy]

LP has opened this up for LE. He is tight with LE in many states, and I can verify that. The FBI uses many venues to get the information they want.

Please do.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I believe Boston had begun to collect the "leonardisms" a while back. I KNOW Leonard has changed his story more than Casey. She is still sticking to the "babysitter done it." last we heard, but Leonard has had more "bombshells" and "mark my words" than anyone else I've ever met!

His details of the conversation would tend to reflect an earlier date than after the discovery of the body.

Yes and when I decide to get into it...I am going to go back and find everything that was left out of that thread which are only the negative things leaving out anything positive that LP said or did. It is unfair and unbalanced, imo.

Again, you are mistaken on the details of that conversation which LP recounted. They do NOT reflect that he was told on an earlier date.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Sorta like.... I don't think my info is relevant, so I'll tell it to LP?

No, not at all. I called LP with some info which jumped out at me, but might not be relevant if not tied to something else he might have. It turned out to be very relevant. I would not have called LE with it because it was something which without other info LP had would not have caught their attention.

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Please do.

Well, you will just have to take my word on it because I have no information I can give you on a public message board, but you know I work a lot with LE with my dog, so just take it from someone who "hears a lot."

 

[TURBOTHINK]

Bounty hunters aren't "trained" to do anything but pick up poor, dumb people who are either too scared or more often too drunk and stupid to appear in court for their hearing - you pick them up, you take them to court and then you rebond them and send them back out. If you can read a map you can be a bounty hunter. Secondly, getting a diploma from a store front diploma mill isn't exactly the same as receiving a law degree. Neither singly nor together do these credentials add up to anything more than exactly what we're doing here - speculating, guessing and discussing various aspects of the case. There is nothing wrong with that unless you happen to have a penchant for the tv camera and spout off theories that do nothing but muddle and poison the jury pool.

bolded by me

I do not know what bounty hunters you know, but NONE of that holds true for the ones I know. The drunk, dumb ones, LE can get anytime they want them..........the felons, the murders, the rapists can hide from LE for years. Hence, the real need for bounty hunters. Bounty hunters are not restrained in their job like LE by "criminal's rights" - a felon has NO RIGHTS with a bounty hunter.

I question your remark about a mail order law degree. His school is in the higher tier of law schools. That is bordering on a libelous statement IMO.

 

[Elphaba]

LP has opened this up for LE? All of their hard work done and it is LP that opened it up? I'm flabbergasted...

*backs away*

I just don't understand this, anymore...

 

[Hot Dogs]

I just don't understand this, anymore...

Have you not heard of cult of personality?

 

[natsound]

Well, you will just have to take my word on it because I have no information I can give you on a public message board, but you know I work a lot with LE with my dog, so just take it from someone who "hears a lot."

Turbo, you seem to have a bit more of an inside track than most of us. I'm willing to shut up about LP and see if anything pans out. I definitely have my doubts, but I'm willing to zip it and see if he ends up being worthwhile.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I do not care for LP or any other bounty hunter that would have gotten Casey out on bail. I have held this position from the beginning. Getting a person out on bail who has (at that time) been charged with child neglect, and lying to officials does not a hero make. For LP to think that he could get more out of Casey than LE is just ridiculous in my opinion. And I do not care who has said what about LP, I will never believe he has an 'in' with LE.

This was Casey's first jail stay and she should have been left there to get desperate and do almost anything to get out. Maybe she would have decided to talk. That will never be known. Instead, she was bailed out of jail and treated like a celebrity escorted by security, etc. That also gave she and the Anthony's a chance to compare notes and who has said what to whom, plus get their story straight.

Also, why should LP get so very much praise over everyday people who gave their time and love to search for Caylee? I will never forget what Tim Miller said LP mentioned to him about all of the money and publicity were the two of them photographed holding little Caylee's skull. I heard it with my own ears when Tim said it on Nancy Grace.

My praise goes to Tim Miller, TES and it's members, and to all of the people who were not named that got out there and earnestly searched for little Caylee. My praise goes to the Websleuthers who got out there and searched for little Caylee. No praise for LP from me - now or ever!

***ETA: The focus was taken way off of Caylee the moment Casey was bonded out. It then became the Casey Anthony Show, IMO.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Have you not heard of cult of personality?

Oh, yes...I can see how that would totally relate to LP. WTH?! Comparing him to Hitler? Stalin? Kim Jong IL?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_personality

A cult of personality or personality cult arises when a country's leader uses mass media to create a heroic public image through unquestioning flattery and praise. Cults of personality are often found in dictatorships.

A cult of personality is similar to general hero worship, except that it is created specifically for political leaders. However, the term may be applied by analogy to refer to adulation of religious or non-political leaders.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Sorry, but I am going to have to disagree on LP being 'tight' with LE and the FBI. First and foremost they are not going to or work with anyone in an official capacity who may be a detriment to their case or fodder for a defense team. While LP may be an excellent bounty hunter, at least that is what he says, he is not a peace officer or certified LE officer. If they are interacting with him at all, they more than likely consider him a 'snitch' to use the common term and will accept any info he gives them (with a grain of salt) but that is the extent of it. LP hung around the crime scene until LE left and I am sure he picked up little bits of info here and there as did most of the media - but none of these tidbits have been verified or confirmed by LE and they won't be.

I would not be surprised to hear that FBI Agent Nick S. is now undergoing some serious ribbing from his co-workers about having LP 'drop' his name on NG. If anyone does know anyone in LE locally or even statewide - ask them their opinion of LP - I am willing to bet a nickel (only kidding Mods, I would never promote gambling here on WS) that the majority of opinions are going to be negative. Why? Because LP is only making LE's job harder with all his theories and statements on TV and in the media.

I agree with everything you have said, Macushla! Le and FBI have informants they use. Let's say that they may use a small time drug dealer in order to get to the supplier. That does not mean LE and the FBI have a high regard for that person. Maybe not a good analogy to use, but it is a true one.

And, yes, theory after theory thrown out there on national tv does not help LE in the case. Then there is statement after statement and date after date. Not a help, IMO.

 

[LaLaw2000]

Turbo, you seem to have a bit more of an inside track than most of us. I'm willing to shut up about LP and see if anything pans out. I definitely have my doubts, but I'm willing to zip it and see if he ends up being worthwhile.

I'm right there with you, natsound!

 

[Hot Dogs]

SeriouslySearching, I would never compare LP to those people you named. I'm using the term for the last line of that definition...

However, the term may be applied by analogy to refer to adulation of religious or non-political leaders.

The man and his followers. The Cult of Leonard.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I can assure you that I do not follow LP as a cult leader. Hahahahaha~ We aren't being led into his way of thinking or by him in any way. (Sorry...I can't stop laughing here.)

 

[Cayleefan]

I believe that Mr. Padilla has good intentions and was in this whole thing for the right reason, Caylee. I feel he's a good guy. He has tried hard to find Caylee. He's a smart man too. I like him. Let's give him the benefit of the doubt:cowboy::thumb:.

 

[Hot Dogs]

SS, do people follow LP because his theories and predictions have been demonstrated to be sound?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

No one said they were "following LP" at all. However, do they like him because they think his heart is in the right place and he wants some justice for Caylee? Yes.

Do you have to learn to read between the lines of what LP says and does? Yes. He does throw out some wild theories and say some seemingly outrageous things at times. He often has a reason to "shake the tree" to see what falls and which animals scurry either towards or away from it.