MA - Bella Bond, 2, found dead, Deer Island, Boston Harbor, June 2015 - #6

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Not clear if she was dropped on the beach or thrown in the water...and found in black trash bag again (no mention of duffle bag)...

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/15/u...roubles-massachusetts-investigators.html?_r=0

The case started on June 25, when a woman was walking with her dog at about 1 p.m. on Deer Island. The animal bounded away from her on the rocky shoreline to sniff a black trash bag. The woman peered into the bag and, with a quick glimpse, realized it contained a body. She alerted a bystander, who called the police.

The medical examiner found that the girl was about 4 years old, with brown eyes and brown hair that was about 14 inches long.

Her height was just over three feet, and she weighed about 30 pounds. She had pierced ears. She was wearing white leggings with black polka dots. Also in the bag was a zebra-print blanket that investigators believe may have been special to her.

There was moisture in the bag, but it is not clear whether she was dropped on the beach and the tide washed over her, or whether she was thrown into the water and then washed up on the beach. She had not been dead long; decomposition was described as very mild.


Sorry...just so sad to re-read this stuff!!
 
BUF said:
Could they have just dumped her in this area? Sounds like a place they could have hung out or knew about.
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How does one get to Deer Island? Is there a bridge heading out that far? Doesn't look like it from the map.

And yes the body was found in a plastic bag by a dog, and the dog's companion person called the police.
 
the island is not technically an island anymore. A past hurricane created a land bridge of sorts so now it appears to be more like a peninsula

Deer Island has been connected to the mainland since the former Shirley Gut channel, which once separated the island from the town of Winthrop, was filled in by the 1938 New England hurricane.[SUP][1][/SUP]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deer_Island_(Massachusetts)

aside from the waste treatment plant a third of the island is park land.
 
yes, the prosecutor said RB told LE that MM dumped the body at the south Boston seaport (which is across the water from deer island). It was clear that the information was based on the information provided by RB.

Like many, I find her account of events from Bella's death up until she and MM were taken into custody self serving.

I don't know that I believe the body was dumped where she said and just washed upon Deer Island by happenstance. That info does not line up well with the info released by LE when Bella was first found there.

Possibly left there, may not have washed up, decomp pretty limited, only there a matter of days, etc.

The question is, why would she lie about where the body was disposed of? It would need to serve her purpose of making her look less a participant. JMO

So if Bella was placed on Deer Island rather than dumped from south seaport it stands to reason that there is a lot to the story of how she got there that makes RB looks far more involved than she has tried to portray. The suggestion upthread that one or both were familiar with Deer Island is interesting to me.
 
tlcya said:
yes, the prosecutor said RB told LE that MM dumped the body at the south Boston seaport (which is across the water from deer island). It was clear that the information was based on the information provided by RB.

Like many, I find her account of events from Bella's death up until she and MM were taken into custody self serving.

I don't know that I believe the body was dumped where she said and just washed upon Deer Island by happenstance. That info does not line up well with the info released by LE when Bella was first found there.

Possibly left there, may not have washed up, decomp pretty limited, only there a matter of days, etc.

The question is, why would she lie about where the body was disposed of? It would need to serve her purpose of making her look less a participant. JMO

So if Bella was placed on Deer Island rather than dumped from south seaport it stands to reason that there is a lot to the story of how she got there that makes RB looks far more involved than she has tried to portray. The suggestion upthread that one or both were familiar with Deer Island is interesting to me.
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Me too.
 
They could have put her into a duffel bag to carry her. Less suspicious than a garbage bag.

They took her out of the duffel to throw her into the water,

Why waste a perfectly good fridge and duffel bag.
 
wondering25 said:
IIRC the prosecutor said the body was dumped in Boston (and that must have been per RB) and then washed ashore on Deer island. In other words, the original dumping place was not deer island but Boston harbor(south Boston seaport)

http://boston.cbslocal.com/video/3296586-prosecutors-say-bella-bonds-body-dumped-into-boston-harbor/

anything I write is just my opinion.
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That must have been based on RB's account, because up until then, no one could determine where the body entered the water. Further, because of the relatively minimal state of decomposition, and an analysis of pollen found on the body, clothes and blanket, investigators developed a theory that she was placed on the shoreline at Deer Island.

[...]
Divers have searched the coastline and the Coast Guard has worked to analyze currents, but few answers have been found.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/07/0...ooking-for-help-in-identifying-toddler-whose/

[...]
"Baby Doe" may not have gone far. In fact, while she was found on a rocky shoreline in Boston Harbor, experts don't even know whether her body spent time in the water.

[...]
The Coast Guard provided investigators with charts of “reverse drifts,” showing where the body might have come from, Coast Guard Petty Officer Cindy Oldham said.

[...]
The reverse drifts were calculated to show where a body dropped into the water might have come from after 24 hours adrift, and after 48 hours, Oldham said. But officials are not sure exactly when the body went into the water, she said, so the results were inconclusive.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...d-continues/6lnjDL4mJqqxxWBXSyhKXN/story.html

[...]
"Baby Doe" may not have gone far. In fact, while she was found on a rocky shoreline in Boston Harbor, experts don't even know whether her body spent time in the water.

That's what experts think now based on the latest information they have on the mysterious girl...

[...]
"This pollen analysis also suggests that 'Baby Doe' may have been placed on the shoreline, rather than washed ashore from a great distance," added Wark.

[video=cnn;us/2015/07/11/baby-doe-mystery-deerpark-massachusetts-kaye-dnt-ac.cnn]http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/12/us/boston-baby-doe-investigation/index.html[/video]
 
human said:
They could have put her into a duffel bag to carry her. Less suspicious than a garbage bag.

They took her out of the duffel to throw her into the water,

Why waste a perfectly good fridge and duffel bag.
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I thought this too. But... I also thought RB might have said MM weighted the duffle bag down with weights to make it sound like she couldn't even lift the bag and for that reason MM is the only one who would have been capable of picking up the duffle bag and dumping it and Baby Bella.

RB is not very big. I can, however, see her having the ability to dump Bella if she was just in the heavy duty garbage bag at the Boston seaport and the tide current carrying Bella to Deer Island. CA certainly was capable of carrying Caylee at least a little way off the side of the road. This is my theory that RB dumped Bella just in the garbage bag with 2 blankets at Boston seaport. I thought I heard double-bagged too, but I keep thinking I'm confusing the case with CA. I think they said there were other items in the bag too??? Maybe they were some of Bella's toys because according to MM's ex-GF and friend there was no trace that a child ever lived in the apartment. ??

I don't think she was placed at Deer Island. I think the tide carried Bella there and there was no duffel bag and no weights. She/he/they DID not know the body would float and gases would cause the garbage bag to rise. Despite the meme on her FB page ~ she DOES NOT KNOW how to hide a body ~ Thank the good Lord!
 
Hmmmmm... Excellent quotes on how perplexed LE was as to how Bella got to Deer Island.

I wonder where RB spent Family Time with JA by the water? Deer Island or Boston Harbor?

Is it even possible to spend the night where RB could have dumped Bella?
 
Bootsctr said:
Hmmmmm... Excellent quotes on how perplexed LE was as to how Bella got to Deer Island.

I wonder where RB spent Family Time with JA by the water? Deer Island or Boston Harbor?

Is it even possible to spend the night where RB could have dumped Bella?
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Great point Boots...maybe RB took JA back to spot to say good-bye?
 
Bootsctr said:
Hmmmmm... Excellent quotes on how perplexed LE was as to how Bella got to Deer Island.

I wonder where RB spent Family Time with JA by the water? Deer Island or Boston Harbor?

Is it even possible to spend the night where RB could have dumped Bella?
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I was curious about that, myself.

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They spent the night outside by the water in South Boston, while Bond spoke endlessly about Bella. Then she told him what her boyfriend, McCarthy, had done.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d-out-that-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter/

Bond said she wanted to sleep by the water, so they spent the night outdoors in South Boston, and all she talked about was Bella, he said.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/09/19/bella/gTUv3lRRWmVY5uIdrbW0SP/story.html
 
iamnotagolem said:
Has there been DNA confirmation that Bella is Baby Doe?
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Yes, pretty quickly after they searched the apartment.

"Preliminary results from Bella’s DNA seized from a nasal syringe and a hair brush at the couple’s house indicated a match to “Baby Doe.” The medical examiner has not issued a final report as to how the child died, though natural causes have been ruled out."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/21/mom-boyfriend-charged-in-baby-doe-case-to-be-arraigned/
 
iamnotagolem said:
Has there been DNA confirmation that Bella is Baby Doe?
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[...]
Preliminary results from Bella’s DNA seized from a nasal syringe and a hair brush at the couple’s house indicated a match to “Baby Doe.” The medical examiner has not issued a final report as to how the child died, though natural causes have been ruled out.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/21/mom-boyfriend-charged-in-baby-doe-case-to-be-arraigned/

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Returning with a search warrant in hand, police combed the apartment and sent DNA evidence, including material from a nasal syringe and a hairbrush, for testing.

Preliminary results from the Massachusetts State Police Forensic & Technology Center showed a match for the “the known blood standard, collected from the remains of the child … recovered on Deer Island on June 25, 2015.”
http://www.masslive.com/news/boston/index.ssf/2015/09/bella_bond_tip_that_led_to_arrests.html
 
bessie said:
I was curious about that, myself.

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They spent the night outside by the water in South Boston, while Bond spoke endlessly about Bella. Then she told him what her boyfriend, McCarthy, had done.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...d-out-that-bostons-baby-doe-was-his-daughter/

Bond said she wanted to sleep by the water, so they spent the night outdoors in South Boston, and all she talked about was Bella, he said.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/09/19/bella/gTUv3lRRWmVY5uIdrbW0SP/story.html
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My guess is that they sat in the car by the water at the Seaport District where hookers and drug dealers go in a "remote location" which is on the docks at the channel side behind businesses. I am somewhat familiar, though not for that reason, LOL
 
In August JA said he went to Bella's home but didn't say anything about the child's things missing, but a month before (in July) MM's friend was there & said the child's things were missing in the apt.

Something isn't adding up...


https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/09/19/bella/gTUv3lRRWmVY5uIdrbW0SP/story.html

When Amoroso came back to his mother’s home from Florida several weeks ago, he said he had visited Bella’s home, but did not find out where his daughter was until after receiving a panicked call from Bond last week. Amoroso claims that Bond told him that McCarthy had held her against her will and injected heroin straight into her jugular to keep her docile.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2...oe/dLTwKDG6aRL3QO4qHdb5nJ/story.html#comments

It was July. Bella had been dead for more than a month.

“That will never get out of my mind,” said the former girlfriend, weeping as she recalled how casually Bond moved through the space where her daughter died violently and alone. The apartment was clean, the girlfriend recalled. There was no toddler furniture, no baby toys, no robes with monkeys on them.
 
Steleheart said:
My guess is that they sat in the car by the water at the Seaport District where hookers and drug dealers go in a "remote location" which is on the docks at the channel side behind businesses. I am somewhat familiar, though not for that reason, LOL
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I think that is where Bella was dumped from too.
 
Bootsctr said:
Bella's lifeless body, prosecutors say, was put in a plastic bag and stuffed in a refrigerator, where it was left until McCarthy put it in a duffel bag and dumped it into Boston Harbor.

http://www.necn.com/news/new-englan...rrant-at-Home-of-Rachelle-Bond-328904791.html
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I wonder where that story originated. This is a direct quote from a LE report. No mention of duffel bag here.

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“Bond further explained that she then witnessed McCarthy place her daughter’s body into [a] garbage bag and move the body into the kitchen refrigerator,” according to a State Police trooper’s write-up of his interview with Bond, submitted as part of court records.

“Bond stated that she was in the refrigerator for a few days, before she and McCarthy went to a remote section of South Boston waterfront and put the body in the water,” the write-up added.

http://www.masslive.com/news/boston..._placed_body_refrigerator.html#incart_m-rpt-1
 
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