MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #11

[geevee]

Did Judge take the lunch break?

 

[nodamselindistress]

Nicole Albert already testified to Chloe's previous bite incidents, how can that be an issue now?

 

[Wishbone]

Why?

because the judge says one of them is not qualified to speak to that issue.

 

[jepop]

So how can the judge sustain an objection from the prosecution about testimony of a physical altercation…… when the ‘revised or updated’ IIRC medical examiner report says that the injuries were not the result of a ‘fight’ or words to that effect? MOO

If it comes to it I can't wait for the appeal where conviction is overturned and the judge is reprimanded with consequences. Unbelievable

 

[kittythehare]

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She was only in charge of the actual hospital unit. Strange that a journalist should see fit to publish this ..????

 

[Moonstrawbs]

because the judge says one of them is not qualified to speak to that issue.

facepalm

 

[nightowl1975]

@SueNBCBoston

Only 4 jurors are taking notes.


11:49 AM · Jun 21, 2024

Probably stunned to actually hear from a true expert.

 

[thebedbug]

Light snow up until around 7am. All the heavy stuff started after JOK was found. IMO

Weather in January 2022 in Canton, Massachusetts, USA

Weather reports from January 2022 in Canton, Massachusetts, USA with highs and lows

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true - but

1) we can see what snow was there at 6am and have undisputed testimony he was "covered." to me that doesn't mean no part of his body was potentially visible... but you know... he was pretty covered. things are usually shades of grey.
2) we can convert the precipitation data to approx. inches of snow.
3) a body doesn't need to be buried or completely covered in snow to be obscured to some degree. if you have the stomach, go check out Ukraine war footage for endless examples.

 

[nightowl1975]

Does the defense have at least 1 expert witness who will be allowed to testify that the injuries weren't from a car?

That’ll come from the experts hired by the FBI and DOJ. Honestly, even better bc neither of those guys are being paid by the defense.

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

A hit by a car that results in no broken bones. Sure.

A hit by a car that results in no broken bones and no bruising but also causes those kind of head injuries. That's harder to believe.

Especially, if you recall, the commonwealth's theory of the collision is that his arm bore the full brunt of the weight of the SUV backing into him. Yet the only sign of the impact was those scratches.

Yes….. and IIRC the latest / most recent CW theory of the case was a glancing or ‘sideswipe’ strike to the arm of the victim? That sent him careening and jettisoned some many feet IIRC? And yet the testimony of last CW expert has no statements or position about the nature of injuries to the victim’s arm? Is that correct? SMH. MOO

 

[Derph]

Dr Russell's degrees are certainly from higher educational institutions than **Checks notes, The American University of Antigua.

 

[geevee]

We're back live.

 

[jepop]

Probably stunned to actually hear from a true expert.

And one that makes sense and has good qualiications. No need for notes whilst her excellent credentials are established, shows confidence in the witness jmo

 

[Wishbone]

true - but

1) we can see what snow was there at 6am and have undisputed testimony he was "covered." to me that doesn't mean no part of his body was potentially visible... but you know... he was pretty covered. things are usually shades of grey.
2) we can convert the precipitation data to approx. inches of snow.
3) a body doesn't need to be buried or completely covered in snow to be obscured to some degree. if you have the stomach, go check out Ukraine war footage for endless examples.

Very sure I have an accurate description of the snowfall and weather thanks to lally's repeated, never ending focus on the weather throughout this trial.

 

[jepop]

Thank God objection overruled

 

[arielilane]

The CW's objection is overruled - the defense is to continue

 

[Derph]

Here it comes..the dog bite theory!!

 

[arielilane]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1804187126906376205

 

[LaineyJ]

Did the defense ever ask the ME about writing that JO hadn’t been in a fight???

 

[arielilane]

@SueNBCBoston

Russell is describing how contact and movement between the animal & person impacts the type of bite.


12:20 PM · Jun 21, 2024