MISTRIAL MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #16

[TTF14]

“Paul O'Keefe also addressed an exchange he had in the courtroom with Read minutes after the mistrial was declared.”

“Throughout the trial, she liked to turn and look at me and smirk. She has never once made eye contact with my wife, Erin. So when the mistrial was announced, she turned and looked right at Erin and gave her a smirk, and then went over and was hugging and celebrating to some extent," Paul O'Keefe said. "And I just said, you know, 'You are not done yet.'"

Hmmmm. I don't believe this.

IMO MOO

 

[IDK]

Hmmmm. I don't believe this.

IMO MOO

OK…..

 

[IDK]

Duplicate

 

[SweetDreamsAreMadeOfCheez]

Speaking about POK's interview, specifically his reasoning for suspecting Karen on Jan 29th. Per his statement, it was his wife Erin who put the doubt in play, due to KR's quickly leaving the OK residence after returning from the hospital. Was that around ten or eleven am? What is not mentioned in there however, is Jen McCabe's 'version' of events had already been swirling in the air by then. JMC had contacted EVERYONE she could think of, including JOK's family. That information is included in her call log history, as long as she didn't delete it that is.

Do you think KR felt that 'funny feeling' that everyone is looking at you, and thinks you are an alcoholic murderer by that time? I would have. IMO

Poor Paul...he just can't see the trees..

Idk about anyone here, but I can't pass judgment on how or what she was feeling and why she didn't want to stay in JOK house after released from the hospital. However I can speak to wanting to be comforted by your own family, specifically parents. I know when something traumatic happens to me I want comfort from my parents and grandparents. I do not have that option anymore, but still where I would like to be. I am just not going nefarious because she didn't want to be in the house with his family. MOO

 

[thebedbug]

Is the KR footage with her lawyer the video/discussion that was removed? Or, was it something to do with the turtle and/or blogger?

I saw a note that something was removed - but it doesn't help if we don't know the topic.

 

[Aquarian]

Is the KR footage with her lawyer the video/discussion that was removed? Or, was it something to do with the turtle and/or blogger?

I saw a note that something was removed - but it doesn't help if we don't know the topic.

The first one you mentioned.

 

[rogue ant]

Hmmmm. I don't believe this.

IMO MOO

Neither do I.

 

[rebelchild]

That is a great interview and my heart breaks for the O'K family.

 

[CourtandSims4]

Hearing Paul O'Keefe's side, I understand why they feel the way they do. Karen essentially was taking responsibility for doing it until she didn't. And distancing herself immediately is a very odd response to the circumstances.

From their perspective, it's going to be different because they lived it. The rest of us are kind of working backwards and not really putting ourselves in their shoes to truly imagine what it is like to have this shocking event happen in your family, and one of the last people who saw him is talking about needing to remember the bad times - which is completely rational to take as needing to feel better about them being gone. This is also not a typical reaction.

If your significant other passes away, you wouldn't say, "let me remember all the fights so I feel better about their death." If anything, you will feel regret and sorrow about your last interaction being a giant blowup and not ever getting a chance to make it right with them.

So, yea, I understand why the family feel the way that they do. Nothing Karen did made sense that morning, including thinking she had hit him before actually getting into the car and hitting John's SUV. Oh well. I hope that they can find some peace somewhere, somehow. It's going to be a long road.

 

[Wishbone]

Hmmmm. I don't believe this.

IMO MOO

Agree with you. It's not what I saw going on in that courtroom for weeks.

 

[TTF14]

Agree with you. It's not what I saw going on in that courtroom for weeks.

It sounds very much like an excuse a man who got caught threatening a woman would come up with....."I was just protecting my woman!"

IMO MOO

 

[TIGER0822]

My personal point of view: I still believe that more information points at KR doing it. However, Alternative Juror appears to be an educated, diligent person who sat in the room and took good notes, as she states. She, with the notes, and having sat there, believes that the case did not meet the standards for reasonable doubt. I can weigh in both versions, because nothing looks the same from inside the courthouse.

Not sure that Proctor planted evidence. If he did, he would not plant evidence for himself. He would plant evidence if not allowed to enter the house, if advised to make it a quick open-and-shut case, if there was zero evidence of a car trauma, and, mostly, if he didn’t know KR’s circumstances at all.

SODDI defense is common. The case when the police becomes that very “D” who “DI” is interesting in itself. I think we all pay attention to AJ, but Yanetti was instrumental in organizing KR’s specific defense. And there was evidence missing, as Proctor never entered BA’s house, and the case required specialists to testify, and is still missing bits and pieces.

Do I believe KR’s lawyers? No. Do I see why Yanetti believed the case was defensible? Absolutely. Do I think it is “not our typical case”, from both sides? Surely. But mostly, the guilty verdict missed evidence, and there was too much noise around the case.

I expect Stoughton case to be more telling.

Juror #3 From listening to her interview, I understood that in her opinion there was reasonable doubt.

 

[waldojabba]

Yeah I'm not from these parts and never been in MA but doesn't seem unreasonable to assume some sort of chain of command and rankings in an investigative unit. Plus I doubt Bukhenic would mislead about that under oath. I recall the testimony slightly differently but am bearing down on a jumbled up memory so ICBW! Bukhenic was before Proctor so Proctor's texts weren't in evidence yet. I believe it may have been some trooper named Tully (qm), was he a lieutenant (sp qm) or something, who was on the stand after Proctor qm; he could have been the one who said he'd spoken to Proctor about 'inappropriate' texts, bad boy as you say. I remember he was a bit vague about the whole episode but was by all appearances higher in rank than both Proctor and Bukhenic. ICBW jmo.

*qm equals question mark as that key has decided to stop functioning once again on laptop.

You are correct it was Tully ! Apologies and thank you for the correction

 

[Maat99]

Juror #3 From listening to her interview, I understood that in her opinion there was reasonable doubt.

Correct. Here is what she said:
“she didn’t feel prosecutors had convinced her beyond a reasonable doubt that Read was guilty of the charges, WBZ reported.”

Juror in Karen Read trial speaks out. Will we hear from others?

The names of the jurors who sat on Karen Read’s trial will not be released, though they may choose to speak publicly about the case.

www.boston.com