MISTRIAL MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #18

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Karen Read has been charged with second-degree murder, motor vehicle manslaughter and leaving the scene of a collision in the January 2022 death of her off-duty Boston Police Officer boyfriend John O'Keefe outside a Canton, Mass., home.

She's pleaded not guilty to the charges.

Leading up to his death, the couple of two years reportedly spent the night drinking and bar hopping with friends before Read, 43, dropped O'Keefe, 46, off at the home of a fellow off-duty police officer for an after-party, PEOPLE previously reported.

Prosecutors say as O'Keefe exited the vehicle, Read allegedly proceeded to make a three-point turn during a winter storm, striking her boyfriend in the process before driving off.

After O'Keefe failed to return home hours later, Read allegedly went looking for him, before finding his body in a snowbank outside the home where she allegedly left him.


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I would not exactly call the extraneous pieces of glass found on the Lexis bumper and the pieces of tail light that did not fit the reconstruction "smoke and mirrors". They were real evidence analyzed by CW and presented at trial with no explanation.
 

I would not exactly call the extraneous pieces of glass found on the Lexis bumper and the pieces of tail light that did not fit the reconstruction "smoke and mirrors". They were real evidence analyzed by CW and presented at trial with no explanation.
...and that injuries were not consistent with hit in any manner by a vehicle, per the expert reconstructionist, which of course, is his profession and experience of many, many pedestrian vehicle strikes upon a person. Ahhh, the list goes on and on. Would of had to watch the trial with the experts, not the State of MA ones, but the outside professionals, but, some may not have had that interest, just a solid fact of their own, for whatever reason that would be.
 
...and that injuries were not consistent with hit in any manner by a vehicle, per the expert reconstructionist, which of course, is his profession and experience of many, many pedestrian vehicle strikes upon a person. Ahhh, the list goes on and on. Would of had to watch the trial with the experts, not the State of MA ones, but the outside professionals, but, some may not have had that interest, just a solid fact of their own, for whatever reason that would be.
And IIRC Dr. Sheridan, a witness for the defense also testified about the nature of the victim’s injuries - and the absence of some key specific injuries one might have expected to be present from a vehicle strike - as theorized by the CW prosecution. And he also testified that the injuries that JOK received were not consistent with a vehicle strike. His testimony and courtroom testimony are up thread but I won’t be able to locate them now. MOO
 
Geez...

It's JOK's right arm wounds that the CW chose to ignore, thanks to the non-existent investigation by the Canton PD, the MSP and the DA that sealed the deal for me. They absolutely did NOT come from a vehicles tail light shattering, dancing and somehow suspended in time mid-air to cause the symmetrical bloodied and gory lines on his arms. Come On People!!

It's similar to the character of "Danny" from 'The Shining' by S King. The child couldn't bear seeing ghosts and gouls and blood and gore, so he covered his eyes and screamed " Not There!!!" until the apparitions disappeared

From the ME on down, including the family of JOK.. those negligent people ignored his wounds. They figuratively put a cover over his arm and said "you don't see this". "Do not discuss this" "Do not investigate this".

Yannetti and Co said oh hell no ! You guys are going to look at this.

How does a dog mauled arm fit into a hit and run by KR ? It doesn't.

Jurors got this right. Shame upon the courts in MA. Wasting tax payer money, risking Double Jeopardy for KR, only because they can't handle the truth.
 
Geez...

It's JOK's right arm wounds that the CW chose to ignore, thanks to the non-existent investigation by the Canton PD, the MSP and the DA that sealed the deal for me. They absolutely did NOT come from a vehicles tail light shattering, dancing and somehow suspended in time mid-air to cause the symmetrical bloodied and gory lines on his arms. Come On People!!

It's similar to the character of "Danny" from 'The Shining' by S King. The child couldn't bear seeing ghosts and gouls and blood and gore, so he covered his eyes and screamed " Not There!!!" until the apparitions disappeared

From the ME on down, including the family of JOK.. those negligent people ignored his wounds. They figuratively put a cover over his arm and said "you don't see this". "Do not discuss this" "Do not investigate this".

Yannetti and Co said oh hell no ! You guys are going to look at this.

How does a dog mauled arm fit into a hit and run by KR ? It doesn't.

Jurors got this right. Shame upon the courts in MA. Wasting tax payer money, risking Double Jeopardy for KR, only because they can't handle the truth.
Spectacularly said and so sadly.
 
And let's not even bring up the blood that was seen to have dripped DOWN JO's shirts. How does that happen if you are hit by a car and thrown in the air and land horizontal on the ground???
Yes, down his back and chest area, flowed downward, from his head and facial injuries. No harm done to his body otherwise, than the bite and claw marks, which matched the holes in his shirt from the outside. claw points and teeth points about his elbow area where the dog clamped on when the dog jumped up on him. His arm, where he tried to deflect that dog. The dog that was sent away in some condition, but NOT at the Alberts house anymore. Oh such terrible evil of attempting to hide and look over there these people did. Life is meaningless to them, just theirs.
 
LOL date on that interview?? I know 20/20 or 48 hrs or one of those just ran it, BUT

It was way before the trial.
Yes, it was old, splashed up a bit with a couple new bits. So, it was meaningless information before so much was discovered and submitted, TIME has gone by and things changed a lot. Not some people known to the O'K's as somehow they are not listening to the professionals and thinking, the mind works differently for some people. Lots has come to the surface, especially the involvement with the FBI towards the lead investigator who is out of his position due to his morally and professionally illegal behavior in uniform and during his investigation . ALL his prior investigations for the state are now being sifted through for any of his same behavior. Remember he and his wife are close friends for LONG time with the Albert family who are going about their lives for now. He is not. No smoke there, he is simple toast, nicely done. Do not know if that all was discovered at the time of that junky show, that used to be reputable, about Proctor and the FBI investigations regarding the cover up and the ones all involved that were LE Or D.A. It was an old info program. NOT factual news, but pretty much was to be looked at as entertainment, unfortunately, so people not informed at all, took as updated facts. It was along the lines of faux news.
 
My prediction is that this case never makes it back inside a courtroom, on any of the charges.

First we have to get through the appeals process on the Double Jeopardy ruling which will likely take months, if not years. This situation with the jury is fairly novel, so I don't believe the appellate court will just dismiss it out of hand.

In the meantime there are certain to be more revelations coming out in the SB case which will make the DA's office look really bad. Plus, we know as of a couple of weeks ago, the Feds are still looking into the handling of the KR investigation. I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of charges there, either.

Eventually, I think the heat will get to Morrissey and we'll see a resignation "to spend more time with his family". Failing that, I don't see how he gets reelected in 2026. Any new DA, especially one that is unconnected to the current administration, is going to need to take a fresh look and reevaluate the evidence. In the end, I think they will just decide to wash their hands of the whole mess.
 
My prediction is that this case never makes it back inside a courtroom, on any of the charges.

First we have to get through the appeals process on the Double Jeopardy ruling which will likely take months, if not years. This situation with the jury is fairly novel, so I don't believe the appellate court will just dismiss it out of hand.

In the meantime there are certain to be more revelations coming out in the SB case which will make the DA's office look really bad. Plus, we know as of a couple of weeks ago, the Feds are still looking into the handling of the KR investigation. I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of charges there, either.

Eventually, I think the heat will get to Morrissey and we'll see a resignation "to spend more time with his family". Failing that, I don't see how he gets reelected in 2026. Any new DA, especially one that is unconnected to the current administration, is going to need to take a fresh look and reevaluate the evidence. In the end, I think they will just decide to wash their hands of the whole mess.
I agree with almost all of the above, though I don't think it represents the end of anything. A great deal of what might happen, depends on the D of J/FBI reports and subsequent action for this and other cases.
The simple fact that so many questions about JOK's death were unanswered by the CW's investigation and case in chief demonstrates that going forward, justice for John's death and for the O'Keefe family is not going to be achieved by a regurgitation of the same content. Additionally, a new trial in the same town won't represent anything like sanction to the Judge in this case who has been demonstrably irascible and incontrovertibly irresponsible and borderline incompetent, never mind biased.
It would be a acute disservice to the CW and the people of MA to simply let the investigation of this case maturate and foment into obscurity, though considering the shoddiness of this and other local investigations, that may be the inevitability. No one should find that a satisfying outcome.
IMO throughout
 
Geez...

It's JOK's right arm wounds that the CW chose to ignore, thanks to the non-existent investigation by the Canton PD, the MSP and the DA that sealed the deal for me. They absolutely did NOT come from a vehicles tail light shattering, dancing and somehow suspended in time mid-air to cause the symmetrical bloodied and gory lines on his arms. Come On People!!

It's similar to the character of "Danny" from 'The Shining' by S King. The child couldn't bear seeing ghosts and gouls and blood and gore, so he covered his eyes and screamed " Not There!!!" until the apparitions disappeared

From the ME on down, including the family of JOK.. those negligent people ignored his wounds. They figuratively put a cover over his arm and said "you don't see this". "Do not discuss this" "Do not investigate this".

Yannetti and Co said oh hell no ! You guys are going to look at this.

How does a dog mauled arm fit into a hit and run by KR ? It doesn't.

Jurors got this right. Shame upon the courts in MA. Wasting tax payer money, risking Double Jeopardy for KR, only because they can't handle the truth.
So so with you! It was the arm wounds that made me do a multi -druple take when I first came across this case. At that time, early days of trial testimony, my non-professional opinion was what the actual heck if those were caused by a vehicle. That looks like a goddam animal attack. Horrific.

I was eagerly waiting for ME testimony and it was unbelievable to me that when it finally came, all Lally elicited from her amounted to a shrug of the shoulders imo. A sort of 'who knows'. Her demonstrated lack of curiosity was stunning to me. No swabs? No medical research independent of LE opinions?

Then along comes all that evidence and testimony. UNCONTESTED by the CW, testimony from expert witnesses that the CW and the ME were unable to answer for. Moo. As defense attorney Alan Jackson said in closing regarding the entire CW case, what was being asked of the jurors by the cw was to "look the other way".

From the get go this is what LE investigators, the office of the ME and the prosecutors office have been doing with those arm injuries.IMO

Look the other way, heads in sand like an ostrich. Continues into the present. Imo FBI are still investigating this case and it's never going to make it back to trial for take 2. Something is going to give before that can happen Moo
 
It would be a acute disservice to the CW and the people of MA to simply let the investigation of this case maturate and foment into obscurity, though considering the shoddiness of this and other local investigations, that may be the inevitability. No one should find that a satisfying outcome.
IMO throughout

But at the end of the day, it will be the CW's call as to whether this case ends up dying on the vine. With more revelations since the end of the trial, it's hard for me to imagine them re-trying Read.

What are they going to do about Trooper Proctor who is on the path to unemployment and possible prosecution? About Tully and Bukhenik, both of whom are under internal investigation? About Nicholas Guarino, who testified in the Read trial that deleted texts cannot be be found, but who is known to have missed almost 33,000 deleted texts later found by the FBI in the Birchmore case? His credibility is now shot to hell.

And there's no way they're going to put the unfortunate Trooper Joe Paul back on the stand to explain what he is incapable of explaining. They'll need a real accident reconstructionist as an expert, and I strongly suspect they tried and failed to find a reputable outsider willing to testify to what the State wanted them to say the first time around.
 
But at the end of the day, it will be the CW's call as to whether this case ends up dying on the vine. With more revelations since the end of the trial, it's hard for me to imagine them re-trying Read.

What are they going to do about Trooper Proctor who is on the path to unemployment and possible prosecution? About Tully and Bukhenik, both of whom are under internal investigation? About Nicholas Guarino, who testified in the Read trial that deleted texts cannot be be found, but who is known to have missed almost 33,000 deleted texts later found by the FBI in the Birchmore case? His credibility is now shot to hell.

And there's no way they're going to put the unfortunate Trooper Joe Paul back on the stand to explain what he is incapable of explaining. They'll need a real accident reconstructionist as an expert, and I strongly suspect they tried and failed to find a reputable outsider willing to testify to what the State wanted them to say the first time around.
Proctor is not going to be allowed to testify in the Anna Walsh case where he was also the lead investigator. News today. The choices you made Proctor in your little pond.
 
But at the end of the day, it will be the CW's call as to whether this case ends up dying on the vine. With more revelations since the end of the trial, it's hard for me to imagine them re-trying Read.

What are they going to do about Trooper Proctor who is on the path to unemployment and possible prosecution? About Tully and Bukhenik, both of whom are under internal investigation? About Nicholas Guarino, who testified in the Read trial that deleted texts cannot be be found, but who is known to have missed almost 33,000 deleted texts later found by the FBI in the Birchmore case? His credibility is now shot to hell.

And there's no way they're going to put the unfortunate Trooper Joe Paul back on the stand to explain what he is incapable of explaining. They'll need a real accident reconstructionist as an expert, and I strongly suspect they tried and failed to find a reputable outsider willing to testify to what the State wanted them to say the first time around.
I think I misspoke in the paragraph you referenced above: The investigation of this CASE, the prosecution of Karen Read, is at best a dog's breakfast at this point and that, as you indicate, is the consequence of more revelations ...some of which go to credibility of the investigators and by extension, the prosecutors; and some of which is exculpatory evidence. What I should have said, is that the investigation of this CRIME, the death of a police officer, should not be permitted to die on the vine.
As you rightly indicate, investigation of this CRIME by any of the mentioned parties (Tully, Bukhenik, Guarino, Paul et al) will be perceived as biased from the git, and any testimony they would be called upon to deliver in this case would be so tainted as to be useless to a prosecutor going forward. To put together a case that would stand up to the scrutiny that any future trial will receive, be the defendant KR or some other party, the CW needs to start over from Square 1 with a whole different group of investigators. Who those parties would be, what the investigative hierarchy would look like, I couldn't presume to guess.
What I do believe, is that the State needs to assemble, enable and assign that group. Hopefully with minimal deference to political repercussion. As to some of the other local cases: they aren't local anymore, and some means needs to be applied to confirm their investigative integrity and potentially shore them up in terms of assigned investigators and prosecution witnesses. The CW needs to prosecute those crimes, without relying on the incumbent clown brigade of investigators as witnesses.
MOO and with recognition of the political capital involved.
 

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