Found Deceased MA - Zachary Marr, 22, Boston, 13 Feb 2016 #1

[CARIIS]

from this picture he is looking to the right. From where he is standing would he be looking in the direction of the Bell in hand -
I thought it was directly across the street

Can someone tell if from this location or the eay he is looking he was checking out the main- exit, or could it be one of the less known ones (they missed each other?)


also I do think it does look more like a leg than a light pole through the door

 

[CARIIS]

Just to get an idea, here are some Boston Harbor readings

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Station BHBM3 - 8443970 - BOSTON, MA
February 20, 2016 8:30 am EST
Location: 42.355N 71.05W or 3 nautical miles WNW of search location of 42.338499N 70.982666W.
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.88 in (1011.7 mb)
Air Temperature: 46°F (7.7°C)
Water Temperature: 36°F (2.1°C)


Station 44013 - BOSTON 16 NM EAST OF BOSTON, MA
February 20, 2016 7:50 am EST
Location: 42.346N 70.651W or 15 nautical miles E of search location of 42.338499N 70.982666W.
Wind Direction: S (190°)
Wind Speed: 17 knots
Wind Gust: 21 knots
Significant Wave Height: 4 ft
Dominant Wave Period: 11 sec
Average Period: 4.9 sec
Mean Wave Direction: ENE (61°)
Atmospheric Pressure: 29.93 in (1013.6 mb)
Pressure Tendency: -0.12 in (-4.1 mb)
Air Temperature: 44°F (6.8°C)
Dew Point: 39°F (3.9°C)
Water Temperature: 40°F (4.6°C)


Station 44029 - BUOY A01 - MASS. BAY/STELLWAGEN
February 20, 2016 8:04 am EST
Location: 42.522N 70.565W or 22 nautical miles ENE of search location of 42.338499N 70.982666W.
Wind Direction: S (180°)
Wind Speed: 17 knots
Wind Gust: 21 knots
Significant Wave Height: 6 ft
Dominant Wave Period: 5 sec
Air Temperature: 43°F (5.9°C)
Water Temperature: 40°F (4.7°C)
Visibility: 1.6 nmi



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[pappa rob]

anyone know what buttons you click on to start a thread. I wanna try to do a poll on Zach and see where people stand in terms of what folks think happened happened, but cant find a botton!

It's beside the page bar at the top of the missing page.. It says post new thread on it.

 

[CARIIS]

The only relevant entity here (IMO after learning this) is the stuff your body can no longer do to get out!

The most common misunderstanding about Cold Water Immersion is that it leads to immediate Hypothermia. The real truth is, other serious events occur long before hypothermia sets in,

Cold Incapacitation occurs within 5 – 15 minutes in cold water. Vasoconstriction decreases blood flow to the extremities in an effort to preserve heat in the core, thereby protecting the vital organs but allowing the periphery to cool.

Within this critical time frame you will losemeaningful movement in your hands and feet, and then your arms and legs, ........... you will be unable to stay afloat and will drown.

Unfortunately, muscle and nerve fibres don’t work well when cold.

Other important life-saving/survival activities will also become more difficult and then impossible

..... he was alone.
- no way out= you are going to die.

Cold Shock Response lasts for only about a minute after entering the water and refers to the affect that cold water has on your breathing. Initially, there is an automatic gasp reflex in response to rapid skin cooling. If the head goes underwater, water may be breathed into the lungs during the gasp. The result is simple: drowning.

A second component of the Cold Shock Response involves hyperventilation. ..... panic can cause a psychological continuance of hyperventilation. Prolonged hyperventilation can lead to a faint

The other significant Cold Shock Response is cardiac related. A.... this additional workload can cause the heart to go into cardiac arrest.

​

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/survival-time-cold-water-d_1567.html
http://beyondcoldwaterbootcamp.com/4-phases-of-cold-water-immersion

 

[1&2&3]

from this picture he is looking to the right. From where he is standing would he be looking in the direction of the Bell in hand -
I thought it was directly across the street

Can someone tell if from this location or the eay he is looking he was checking out the main- exit, or could it be one of the less known ones (they missed each other?)


also I do think it does look more like a leg than a light pole through the door

This is what I see when I zoom in.

1. A leg in black pants, bent at the knee, at the next door by its right door frame in the middle of the two doors. It appears to be on the curb/out in the street. You see it in the top half of the glass in the door.

2. I see two tannish/gray objects - could these be tall boots on a girl?

3. Over where the snow blotches appear, and in front of the last corner of the building, move up the screen a little - I see a leg in black pants and a white bare arm with their left hand in its pants pocket. This person has black tennis shoes on.

Seeing this on my iPad, maybe you can see better on a large screen. The only thing I question is the two tan/gray items.

 

[Eileen730]

from this picture he is looking to the right. From where he is standing would he be looking in the direction of the Bell in hand -
I thought it was directly across the street

Can someone tell if from this location or the eay he is looking he was checking out the main- exit, or could it be one of the less known ones (they missed each other?)


also I do think it does look more like a leg than a light pole through the door

what is the name of that shop?
Local S(omething)

anyone take a guess at whats on the shelves!

 

[Momoffourboys]

There is a reason BPD is searching waterways. They know much more than what is released to the public, IMO.

 

[Trilogy]

This is what I see when I zoom in.

1. A leg in black pants, bent at the knee, at the next door by its right door frame in the middle of the two doors. It appears to be on the curb/out in the street. You see it in the top half of the glass in the door.

2. I see two tannish/gray objects - could these be tall boots on a girl?

3. Over where the snow blotches appear, and in front of the last corner of the building, move up the screen a little - I see a leg in black pants and a white bare arm with their left hand in its pants pocket. This person has black tennis shoes on.

Seeing this on my iPad, maybe you can see better on a large screen. The only thing I question is the two tan/gray items.

I think the two tannish grey objects are lower legs, not wearing boots necessarily, and the shoulders of this person are visible above, through the transom window over the door. Discolorations in the photo (and weird, ghosting images) are reflections of items inside the store itself. The bald person someone thought they saw to the left of Zach is also a reflection.

Also, as far as direction of sight to the bar, that would be to Zach's left. In the photo 4 minutes later where he is walking, he would have been headed back TOWARDS the bar, I believe.

 

[Trilogy]

There is a reason BPD is searching waterways. They know much more than what is released to the public, IMO.

Is that continuing, do you know?

 

[Momoffourboys]

Is that continuing, do you know?

I don't know. Maybe someone local can chime in.

It seems to me that the water search began rather quickly after Zach was reported missing for there NOT to be a reason.

 

[CARIIS]

I think the two tannish grey objects are lower legs, not wearing boots necessarily, and the shoulders of this person are visible above, through the transom window over the door. Discolorations in the photo (and weird, ghosting images) are reflections of items inside the store itself. The bald person someone thought they saw to the left of Zach is also a reflection.

Also, as far as direction of sight to the bar, that would be to Zach's left. In the photo 4 minutes later where he is walking, he would have been headed back TOWARDS the bar, I believe.

Makes me sad, heading back toward bar -- makes me think he was in front of the wrong exit they came out of

also by this point (I was amazed at how quickly cell phone batteries are rendered useless. This was aat 32- minus 9 .

Makes me think their phones died too, and in that picture he was calling them. Imagine how awful that must have felt - call them and their phones had died ... so alone

The bar casue of its design would be confusing with all those people

But it would seem to me that one could tell , even around a corner that bulks of people were coming out somewhere else too.

We do not know if they did not also wondering if maybe they did not split in their search for him

poor guy alone strange place

 

[CARIIS]

anyone know what buttons you click on to start a thread. I wanna try to do a poll on Zach and see where people stand in terms of what folks think happened happened, but cant find a botton!

remain a bit lost, woud you tell me how again not finding the button you are referring to ! TIA

 

[CARIIS]

Can any of you pick out Amanda here:

https://www.linkedin.com/pub/dir/Amanda/Marr

I am not sure if any of the ones with photos are her...

Also Amada posted he was missing on 2/14 @ 1246 AM? Long time huh?

That would be what 23 hours later - just sharing a fact- not impying anything

https://m.facebook.com/amanda.michelle.1990/posts/10153648532512284?__tn__=*s

There was some confusion regarding LE searching the waters (matter of course or a lead)

Police ................... they have received information leading them to this search.

There was also confusion regarding if in fact his coat was checked:

didn't grab his coat because it was in the establishment's coat check.....In the 10 minutes it took for their party to grab their coats and go outside........

Just clearing some timeframes
, 'Out front,' and that was at 1:41 a.m."

http://www.necn.com/news/new-england/Boston-Police-Charles-River-Search-Missing-22-Year-Old-Zachary-Marr-369136791.html

 

[dub]

remain a bit lost, woud you tell me how again not finding the button you are referring to ! TIA

Go back to the "missing persons discussion" main page.

When the page is oriented at the very top, look to the far left, vertically roughly in the middle. There is a tab that says "post new thread" there.

I've never posted a new thread before, so I can't help you from there haha

 

[Tabirey]

Go back to the "missing persons discussion" main page.

When the page is oriented at the very top, look to the far left, vertically roughly in the middle. There is a tab that says "post new thread" there.

I've never posted a new thread before, so I can't help you from there haha

It's easier to do if you choose the full site option instead of mobile though 😊

 

[dub]

Oh, yeah, I have no idea how to do it on mobile.

 

[CARIIS]

Tid Bits

bolding /colors not me !

Quotes I had not heard

Amanda Marr, 25, of South Boston, who organized the weekend get-together. “I want to make sure that he’s not hurt and that he’s safe and warm.”

“I dropped him off at the train [station]; he was psyched,” his father, Matthew Marr, said

more info grandma:

did not know breast cancer

grandmother died in January from breast cancer, the family said. Marr helped care for her, and she lived near the family home.
“They had a special relationship.”

cake plan

The family had planned to clean out his grandmother’s apartment on the Saturday that Zachary went missing, Amanda Marr said. Later that evening, Zachary’s birthday celebration would resume with cake at his father’s home.


new name in situation

“It was like a de-stressor to get out and spend happy times with his cousins,” said his aunt Lisa Karanikolas, 53

Amanda :“I was trying to stay calm,” she said. “Maybe he went for a walk.”

Another cousin searched around the corner and found no sign of him.

She said she contacted police and took to canvassing the area, where she gotsurveillance videos that place Zachary Marr in front of Boston Public Market, near the bar, at 1:40 a.m.

First time I have heard that more than one video was involved the next day

It said other video shows that Zachary was seen heading toward the surface artery.

name of cops quoted in case they make more statements

Officer James Kenneally
spokeswoman Officer Rachel McGuire.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/02/15/amissing/6BE0O8J9YdUfZMkyit9OqM/story.html

 

[CARIIS]

what is the name of that shop?
Local S(omething)

anyone take a guess at whats on the shelves!

candles baby food !!

 

[carbuff]

I think the two tannish grey objects are lower legs, not wearing boots necessarily, and the shoulders of this person are visible above, through the transom window over the door. Discolorations in the photo (and weird, ghosting images) are reflections of items inside the store itself. The bald person someone thought they saw to the left of Zach is also a reflection.

Also, as far as direction of sight to the bar, that would be to Zach's left. In the photo 4 minutes later where he is walking, he would have been headed back TOWARDS the bar, I believe.

It looks like that, but they said he was seen heading the other direction.


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[CARIIS]

Go back to the "missing persons discussion" main page.

When the page is oriented at the very top, look to the far left, vertically roughly in the middle. There is a tab that says "post new thread" there.

I've never posted a new thread before, so I can't help you from there haha

TY I did it yea??

Funny, at first glance I thought your name was DUH -fits in with question!!

Now I certainly have no clue as to how to link it to this thread specifically but it is here!

Now for a commericial !

Take poll Take poll Take poll Take poll ---Two questions!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?301154-POLL-What-do-you-think-happened-to-Zach-Marrs-POLL


Take poll Take poll Take poll Take poll