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Five minutes is enough if Madeleine was for example handed by person1 to person2 through that window.
The person1 can then leave the apartment through the main door and walk hands in pockets.
The position of the child in Smiths sighting to me suggests that that person hasn't picked up Madeleine from her bed.
If he did, then her head would be leaning on his right shoulder.
In Smiths sighting they said the childs head was on left side.
To pick up Madeleine this way the abductor would need to climb on the bed and pick up Madeleine from the walls side.
It would be hard for the person to change her position from right to left during a brisk walk. She is a sleeping child who doesn't know him.
Or he maybe picked her up from the right, then put her in the car, front seat and drove to the near Smirths location. Then picked her up from the left this time.
Five minutes is enough if Madeleine was for example handed by person1 to person2 through that window.
The person1 can then leave the apartment through the main door and walk hands in pockets.
The position of the child in Smiths sighting to me suggests that that person hasn't picked up Madeleine from her bed.
If he did, then her head would be leaning on his right shoulder.
In Smiths sighting they said the childs head was on left side.
To pick up Madeleine this way the abductor would need to climb on the bed and pick up Madeleine from the walls side.
You can shift the child's position very easily, even without waking the kid up.
As to the second paragraph above, is there any evidence of a car being used at the time of supposed abduction while in the vicinity of the supposed abduction? TIA
Why I mention car is because of the car park next to the OC. I mentioned this several times since yesterday and would not like to repeat myself but hours after Madeleine went missing the portuguese police used the search dogs, also few days late, all together4 times, 4 dogs, went the same way, around the block and to a car park where they all stopped.
Now, I am not sure if Madeleine is being carried, whether these dogs would still follow her scent.
Few years ago there was a long discussion about this but because the dogs route did not match the Jane Tanner sighting this was dropped.
Now when we know that JT sighting is discounted I thought the dogs route can be revisited.
Here is the photo of the dogs route
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/06/article-1042099-022F939200000578-880_468x304.jpg
Why trhrough the window, maneuvering around the twins cots? Did the person 1 had a night vision on? And if the Maddie's bed was the ne near the window, as edwood said, it still does not make things easier, because the perp had to walk across the room, around the cots. Why not to pick one of the kids from the cots, instead of pushing your way through the room? This kidnapper just loved to make his life more difficult.
...and, being a neat man, the person no1 closed the shutters and the window, after his colleague left.
You can shift the child's position very easily, even without waking the kid up.
sbm~
Sure can, especially if they're freshly dead.
BTW I've just realised this discounts all the theories that Madeleine died earlier in the night. Rigor would already have set in if so. :twocents:
The scent they found and tracked may well have been from an earlier day.
:moo:
I may be wrong but doesnt rigor start a few hours after death not straight away ?
It might have been if Madeleine went in this location the day before but she did not.
Also that day we know that Madeleine went different way, to her day nursery..
If the dogs follow the freshest scent, wouldn't they go to the nursery instead going to the car park?
This is called twisting the facts to fit into your theory.IIRC rigor starts between 4-6 hours after death.
Some folks theory included Madeleine dying much, much earlier, in fact some believed she actually died the day before.
The lack of rigor at 10 tends to argue that she died after say, 4pm, maybe even after 6.
Which puts an entirely new emphasis on the 30 second/5 minute visit/discrepancy/lie from Payne and Kate...:scared:
:moo:
This is called twisting the facts to fit into your theory.
Professional police do not work this way.
This would also mean the whole group of friends knew of Madeleine being dead and all of them covering it up.
And Scotland Yard with hundreds of years of policing experience would miss this?
IIRC rigor starts between 4-6 hours after death.
Some folks theory included Madeleine dying much, much earlier, in fact some believed she actually died the day before.
The lack of rigor at 10 tends to argue that she died after say, 4pm, maybe even after 6.
Which puts an entirely new emphasis on the 30 second/5 minute visit/discrepancy/lie from Payne and Kate...:scared:
:moo:
It might have been if Madeleine went in this location the day before but she did not.
You are assuming that it was Madeleine who was seen being carried away, but that has not so far been confirmed.
I've said this before - you don't know that.