Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #11

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Links in portuguese about IAPRS

Portugal acolhe delinquentes - Exclusivos - Correio da Manhã

Associação de Silves aguarda há sete anos o reconhecimento como IPSS

Jovens alemães 'clandestinos' em Portugal

If someone tells me in which post I can find the photo of the Wesfalia van and the location in the port of Malaga, I can ask in a Spanish forum to find out what parking is that. Do you think it would be relevant information?

 

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Links in portuguese about IAPRS

Portugal acolhe delinquentes - Exclusivos - Correio da Manhã

Associação acusada de não prestar bons cuidados critica autoridades portuguesas

Associação de Silves aguarda há sete anos o reconhecimento como IPSS

Jovens alemães 'clandestinos' em Portugal

If someone tells me in which post I can find the photo of the Wesfalia van and the location in the port of Malaga, I can ask in a Spanish forum to find out what parking is that. Do you think it would be relevant information?

Nice links. I'll check them.

You can find VW Westfalia pics here:

Fall "Maddie": Wer kennt diese Autos und Häuser?

It's very important to date Málaga picture for his timeline. This is a very important location for its connection to Morocco through Melilla.

ETA: Link 2 (Público newspaper) is for subscribers only.

 

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IAPRS received 4.600€/month and paid families 2.000-3.000€. Some German families went to Algarve to profit from this. Sending children to college would cost much more to German state. Neither Germany nor Portugal, where they stayed illegally, had any control over these children who were supposed to be under IAPRS's control. IAPRS only selected families and didn't even meet children. Some children lived out of host families' home, in a garden house, and there were suicides. This program was denounced in a ZDF channel report in 2011 and shocked Germany.

 

[redplanet]

In this scottishsun report
A: About 5 or so pictures from the top of the report is a photo of a small well with "vende-se, for sale" written on the well-house, I have located this exactly it is at
37.079903, -8.818879
(paste that into google maps, then try streetview).
B: In the video at bottom of the report is a well with machinery on top, on which the donkey arm is still intact. The location of this well I am almost sure is
37.080014, -8.819788
or if not it might be the one at
37.080342, -8.820349
Please have a look and tell me which is correct.
C: Also in the report are still photos of another well with machinery on top, but is is not as tall as the other one, and a big difference here is the donkey arm is missing. I haven't located this well yet.
Maddie cops spend 12hrs searching well over fears suspect dumped her body in one

 

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In this scottishsun report
A: About 5 or so pictures from the top of the report is a photo of a small well with "vende-se, for sale" written on the well-house, I have located this exactly it is at
37.079903, -8.818879
(paste that into google maps, then try streetview).
B: In the video at bottom of the report is a well with machinery on top, on which the donkey arm is still intact. The location of this well I am almost sure is
37.080014, -8.819788
or if not it might be the one at
37.080342, -8.820349
Please have a look and tell me which is correct.
C: Also in the report are still photos of another well with machinery on top, but is is not as tall as the other one, and a big difference here is the donkey arm is missing. I haven't located this well yet.
Maddie cops spend 12hrs searching well over fears suspect dumped her body in one

Good sleuthing. I agree with locations (A and first B).

 

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Links in portuguese about IAPRS

Portugal acolhe delinquentes - Exclusivos - Correio da Manhã

Associação de Silves aguarda há sete anos o reconhecimento como IPSS

Jovens alemães 'clandestinos' em Portugal

If someone tells me in which post I can find the photo of the Wesfalia van and the location in the port of Malaga, I can ask in a Spanish forum to find out what parking is that. Do you think it would be relevant information?

Really good insights in those articles, thank for for linking.

 

[redplanet]

Good sleuthing. I agree with locations (A and first B).

Thanks. Assuming first location for B is correct....
A and B are 82m apart which fits with the report which said the 3 searched wells are within 100m of each other.
Well A has "vende-se" written on its wall. Sign near well B says "vende-se 5120 square metres. Probably both are same land parcel?

 

[Dlk79]

In this scottishsun report
A: About 5 or so pictures from the top of the report is a photo of a small well with "vende-se, for sale" written on the well-house, I have located this exactly it is at
37.079903, -8.818879
(paste that into google maps, then try streetview).
B: In the video at bottom of the report is a well with machinery on top, on which the donkey arm is still intact. The location of this well I am almost sure is
37.080014, -8.819788
or if not it might be the one at
37.080342, -8.820349
Please have a look and tell me which is correct.
C: Also in the report are still photos of another well with machinery on top, but is is not as tall as the other one, and a big difference here is the donkey arm is missing. I haven't located this well yet.
Maddie cops spend 12hrs searching well over fears suspect dumped her body in one

The third well is just a bit further down, next to the road but covered in overgrowth. Here:

37.079901,-8.818676

Same telegraph pole in the background and same craggy tree.

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Thanks. Assuming first location for B is correct....
A and B are 82m apart which fits with the report which said the 3 searched wells are within 100m of each other.
Well A has "vende-se" written on its wall. Sign near well B says "vende-se 5120 square metres. Probably both are same land parcel?

Probably different properties because B is surrounded by a lowly wall.

 

[redplanet]

The third well is just a bit further down, next to the road but covered in overgrowth. Here:

37.079901,-8.818676

Same telegraph pole in the background and same craggy tree.

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Oh yes. Well-spotted. The donkey arm is missing, yes that is definitely it. Let's call it C.
Going east to west we have C then A then B. Distance from C to B is 100m. Just like the report said.

 

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Oh yes. Well-spotted. The donkey arm is missing, yes that is definitely it. Let's call it C.
Going east to west we have C then A then B. Distance from C to B is 100m. Just like the report said.

This was the one I thought to be A. Is it C?

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ETA: I see, you pointed to house "vende-se for sale", there's a well indeed.‬‏‏

 

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Could he taken MM here?
The Forte de Almademo? It's on the cliffs over looking PBDR beach? Note the fence driving up to the forte on this random video on you tube.

Pls ask me to DM the video if you'd like to see it.




Forte de Sao Luis de Almadena (Burgau) - 2020 All You Need to Know Before You Go (with Photos) - Burgau, Portugal | Tripadvisor

 

[NY90]

In this scottishsun report
A: About 5 or so pictures from the top of the report is a photo of a small well with "vende-se, for sale" written on the well-house, I have located this exactly it is at
37.079903, -8.818879
(paste that into google maps, then try streetview).
B: In the video at bottom of the report is a well with machinery on top, on which the donkey arm is still intact. The location of this well I am almost sure is
37.080014, -8.819788
or if not it might be the one at
37.080342, -8.820349
Please have a look and tell me which is correct.
C: Also in the report are still photos of another well with machinery on top, but is is not as tall as the other one, and a big difference here is the donkey arm is missing. I haven't located this well yet.
Maddie cops spend 12hrs searching well over fears suspect dumped her body in one

Based on the coordinates thanks to above poster I was surprised to find an area I was looking at a few days ago, not in respect of the wells but looking at the vegetation. Dialling in the year 2007, June 22nd what is strange is there is a silver car parked behind bushes. We know he had a third car or access to a third car but we don't know the model. It would be a fluke if this was his car on that particular day given the date of the image. Just to the bottom of it is a darker area in the undergrowth, could this be another well?

I dont know if anyone else googled similar so I have highlighted the area?

 

[Dlk79]

Based on the coordinates thanks to above poster I was surprised to find an area I was looking at a few days ago, not in respect of the wells but looking at the vegetation. Dialling in the year 2007, June 22nd what is strange is there is a silver car parked behind bushes. We know he had a third car or access to a third car but we don't know the model. It would be a fluke if this was his car on that particular day given the date of the image. Just to the bottom of it is a darker area in the undergrowth, could this be another well?

I dont know if anyone else googled similar so I have highlighted the area?

He also owned a grey Opel Ascona at the time. Plus a mercedes van and a blue bedford van but that had been confiscated by police at the time of MM. Plus we're not sure when he got the Allegro winnebago but he definitely had it by June 2007 if not before.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

One of his exes said he had a dirty-yellow estate too.

 

[Jenesaisquoi]

Madeleine McCann cops search suspect's beach haunt and draw up new witness list

 

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Madeleine McCann cops search suspect's beach haunt and draw up new witness list

Interesting report. So they say his van was seen nearby those wells at the time by witnesses. And they locate correctly van's pic at Barranco beach.

 

[redplanet]

This was the one I thought to be A. Is it C?

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ETA: I see, you pointed to house "vende-se for sale", there's a well indeed.‬‏‏

Maybe the wells with a little building joined to them (for example A) have electric pump or petrol/diesel pump?
These are probably the locations (assuming the reporters got the correct wells) of the 3 wells reportedly searched with nothing found. On the Budens to Boca do Rio road. The naming A B C is arbitrary. Distance B to C = 100 metres.

 

[Dlk79]

Interesting report. So they say his van was seen nearby those wells at the time by witnesses. And they locate correctly van's pic at Barranco beach.

Article says -

"It is claimed fresh sightings have emerged of Brueckner’s VW Westfalia – which he sold for scrap in 2017 in the Algarve for £5,000 – in the area around the wells."

Doesn't say when exactly though and by "area" they may just mean the general area, not specifically that it was seen near the wells. The article goes on to talk about the beaches and camping sites in Vila do Bispo in general.

I am intrigued why LE picked out these 3 specific wells though. There's so many in the area, there must be something that made these stand out.

 

[sleuth-d-]

these wells are all in the opposite direction to NF in Foral and BP in Messines.
the VW appears to be the linking factor between PdL and the wells. afaik, no known homes for CB mentioned so far in that direction.
possibly the LE think he took (and kept/filmed) MBM in the VW and then took her to a well. i.e. no home/apt involved.

*in the pj files, pj were looking at an apt in Burgau and asking for DNA analysis of blood there, right up to the point Amaral was taken off the case. that lead was not being pursued by Amaral it was another pj officer, before anyone wades in with the usual Amaral critique.
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