Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #29

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RichardKimble said:
Indeed, in 2014 it was said at the time OG asked the three locals if they killed Madeleine, we've been here before.
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Now why should OG have done that if they were just looking at a missing person case?
Even around 2020 they were still saying it was missing person case.
 
Trivento said:
Inside Madeleine McCann suspect Christian B's explosive TV claim he has 'alibi'

This Sun article talks about the VW having a modified space big enough to hide children in , and swimsuits etc being found in it.

I don’t believe this is correct as it has been previously reported this was connected to the much bigger Winnebago , that CB also used…and there is DF’s account ( also appearing in JC’s book ) relating to the Winnebago.

See this OP article..mentioning Winnebago ( Tiffin Allegro ) ..for example..

Madeleine McCann suspect DID drive his winnebago on a long journey through Portugal on night toddler went missing - Olive Press News Spain

Makes me curious which vehicle the BKA are supposed to be looking into just now ( if they are ) ..is it the VW , Winnebago ..or perhaps both..?
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From Sky 2020.

The distinctive VW camper van he was using at the time of Madeleine's disappearance - on 3 May, 2007 - was located and shipped to Germany for forensic examination.

It has not produced any evidence of her presence, but tests continue.

German police have the Jaguar car the suspect was also using at the time, and it is thought that too, has not given the clues that were hoped for.
 
RichardKimble said:
From Sky 2020.

The distinctive VW camper van he was using at the time of Madeleine's disappearance - on 3 May, 2007 - was located and shipped to Germany for forensic examination.

It has not produced any evidence of her presence, but tests continue.

German police have the Jaguar car the suspect was also using at the time, and it is thought that too, has not given the clues that were hoped for.
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Yes...but it wasn't the VW that CB said was modified...it was the Winnebago.
 
Trivento said:
Not that I’m aware of…
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Just read the appeal again, the VW camper was the significant one, maybe they thought the Winnebago was or knew/know that its of no relevance. So going back to forensics maybe its a rehash to make it look up to date.


The first vehicle is a distinctive VW T3 Westfalia campervan. It is an early 1980s model, with two tone markings, a white upper body and a yellow skirting. It had a Portuguese registration plate.

The suspect had access to this van from at least April 2007 until sometime after May 2007. It was used in and around the area of Praia da Luz.

We believe he was living in this van for days, possibly weeks, and may have been using it on 3 May 2007.
 
SuperdadV8 said:
Looks like if CB used a lot of campervans. Maybe they found one of the not yet known vehicles. Checking the T3 Westfalia for forensics right now, doesn't make much sense to me.
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Yeah, does seem odd. You'd think that avenue would have been exhausted already. Could be confusion in the press and that the BKA are actually looking at a different vehicle they've found?

Also, Dieter F seemed to indicate the winnebago he saw CB with was not the same one as we've seen pictures of in the Press.
 
SuperdadV8 said:
Looks like if CB used a lot of campervans. Maybe they found one of the not yet known vehicles. Checking the T3 Westfalia for forensics right now, doesn't make much sense to me.
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Can see where you're coming from...but if there's even a slim chance that MM was in one of CB's vehicles , or transferred between them , even for only a short time...I would hope BKA check and re-check all of them with a fine tooth-comb...and some more..!
 
Davieson said:
That's what the 'profile' has determined.
I have no idea why police decided that it was an abduction by paedophiles.
Was the profile constructed before or after Brueckner was identified ?
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well a profile is just a profile.. its no fact ..unless they have something visual to prove it..again this case is just so confusing
 
Trivento said:
Can see where you're coming from...but if there's even a slim chance that MM was in one of CB's vehicles , or transferred between them , even for only a short time...I would hope BKA check and re-check all of them with a fine tooth-comb...and some more..!
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One would have thought if the two vehicles mentioned didn't turn up anything then well before another two yrs down the line others would have been searched and looked for, with no further appeals either they already knew of them or it wasn't thought to be important, who knows in this case .
 
Trivento said:
Can see where you're coming from...but if there's even a slim chance that MM was in one of CB's vehicles , or transferred between them , even for only a short time...I would hope BKA check and re-check all of them with a fine tooth-comb...and some more..!
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Yes but how long for ? Forensic scientists know what they're about
If there's nothing there to find you can search for the rest of eternity without success
 
Trivento said:
Can see where you're coming from...but if there's even a slim chance that MM was in one of CB's vehicles , or transferred between them , even fir only a short time...I would hope BKA check and re-check all of them with a fine tooth-combe...and some more..!
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I guess they did. The Jag and the T3 as well are locked up in a BKA Hangar for years and had been checked.

If there isn't any big breakthrough in forensics since the last 4 years, both cars seem to be a dead end. Although it's kind of unusual, that the T3 hasn't been released to it's original owner yet. Something must be crucial about these two vehicles.

@Dlk79

Right, DF said to reporters that the known and pictured Tiffin Allegro has a different colour, than the "Winnebago" he saw at NF's house.

But at first, the printed pics of the Allegro have a strange coloring in general IMO. Hard to see if it's red or brown.

Second, many years have passed since then. I assume, that the Number of these kind of vehicles roaming europe at the time, is limited. They have to be moved like a lorry. You can drive them without problems on highways, okay!

But small southern european villages or cities? I guess the smaller ones are more comfortable and even reliable. So they should have been able to locate the Tiffin Allegro somewhere in europe maybe. Or at least some parts of it's interior, sold after being disassembled by a junkyard.

Until today there is no straight info about the "campervan" found at Neuwegersleben, that his Buddy Börn mentioned to "Der Spiegel". Maybe it's a different vehicle, as the known Tiffin Allegro?!
 
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sandy_80 said:
well a profile is just a profile.. its no fact ..unless they have something visual to prove it..again this case is just so confusing
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Indeed it is.
What if the basic premise of the profile was wrong ?
 
The BKA investigation was not instigated upon a 'profile'. It was instigated after CB allegedly confessed to a friend that he carried out the crime!

If it turns out that he is in fact guilty, all it will show is that OG's assessment of the likely 'profile' was actually correct.
 
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"However, [...] claims in the documentary the phone could have been up to 22 miles away when it received a half-hour call as the mast covered a large signal cell."

That is wrong. There was other 3 Vodafone BTS stations circling PdL which could pick the phone signal. The "22 miles away" is really 2 miles away. Nevertheless it did not locate CB at 5A.
 
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Janosch said:
"However, Mr Williams-Thomas claims in the documentary the phone could have been up to 22 miles away when it received a half-hour call as the mast covered a large signal cell."

That is no truth. There was other 3 Vodafone BTS stations circling PdL which could pick the phone signal. The "22 miles away" is really 2 miles away. Nevertheless it did not locate CB at 5A.
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So if he was 22 miles away which mast would pick up the signal, would he still have been in range of the three you mention ?
 
RichardKimble said:
So if he was 22 miles away which mast would pick up the signal, would he still have been in range of the three you mention ?
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I need the exact position 22 miles away to look for Vodafone BTS stations, but the three I mentioned is a kind of shield preventing anyone 22 miles away connecting to "PdL Center" BTS ...
 
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