Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect #30

[Dlk79]

This is probably the main thing I'm looking forward to hearing more about in MWT's doc.

In fact, there is irrefutable evidence from multiple witnesses that '680' was regularly used by a different man, a close friend of Brueckner's who was also based in south Portugal. Paperwork and an official document that I have seen show this was his phone – not Brueckner's. So it can't be established the suspect was even using '680' on the evening Madeleine was taken.

Madeline McCann investigator sure Christian Brueckner didn't do it

An investigator for the case of Madeline McCann says convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner (pictured) is a monster, but that he isn't responsible for the young girl's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

While it's possible that MWT has struck upon something key here, the fact there is documentation and multiple witnesses, it seems far more likely he's actually stumbled across something that the BKA already knew but were trying to keep under wraps. It will be interesting to see if they name this 'friend' in the documentary. It could well be that this person is already a key witness for the Prosecution and has told them how the phone was in CB's possession.

 

[C.greek]

This is probably the main thing I'm looking forward to hearing more about in MWT's doc.

In fact, there is irrefutable evidence from multiple witnesses that '680' was regularly used by a different man, a close friend of Brueckner's who was also based in south Portugal. Paperwork and an official document that I have seen show this was his phone – not Brueckner's. So it can't be established the suspect was even using '680' on the evening Madeleine was taken.

Madeline McCann investigator sure Christian Brueckner didn't do it

An investigator for the case of Madeline McCann says convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner (pictured) is a monster, but that he isn't responsible for the young girl's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

While it's possible that MWT has struck upon something key here, the fact there is documentation and multiple witnesses, it seems far more likely he's actually stumbled across something that the BKA already knew but were trying to keep under wraps. It will be interesting to see if they name this 'friend' in the documentary. It could well be that this person is already a key witness for the Prosecution and has told them how the phone was in CB's possession.

So would MWT be insinuating that the BKA.should be looking for this friend to charge instead of CB? Is this CB's way to get revenge on this 'friend' who could be a key witness for the prosecution?
Jmo

 

[Janosch]

This is RO’B’s phone ping map. When he made calls in Luz, it says 1 deg (2 deg in Portimao). Is that the azimuth?

Presumably that’s what you would expect to see if CB was in/around the resort.

I have found that antenna (h) was built after june 2007, so we have to discard it.

Considering the 19:32 (Vodafone to Vodafone) call on May 3, 2007, the important antennas are now (b), (f), and (g).

(b) VODAFONE. Probably Rua 1º de Maio, 2, Luz, Lagos.
260 meters from 5A.

268-01-24-1704: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-14424: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-1709: azimuth 280º.
268-01-24-1707: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-32023: azimuth 280º.
268-01-24-14426: azimuth 280º.
268-01-24-32021: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-1706: azimuth 280º.

(f) VODAFONE.
3000 meters from 5A.

268-01-24-11452: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-41486: azimuth 270º.
268-01-24-11453: azimuth 270º.
268-01-24-41488: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-41485: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-41489: azimuth 270º.
268-01-24-35414: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-35415: azimuth 270º.


(g) VODAFONE.
2900 meters from 5A.

268-01-24-12811: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-42347: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-37574: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-42345: azimuth 90º.
268-01-24-42349: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-42344: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-12813: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-37575: azimuth 90º.
268-01-24-12812: azimuth 90º.
268-01-24-42346: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-37576: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-42348: azimuth 90º.

That three Vodafone BTS let us draw an approximate area. The question is: Were in that zone additional Vodafone BTS?

 

[Alternative Paradox]

All connection data (so a phone that is connected to the network, irrespective of whether a call is being made/received) is recorded as part of normal system operations and requires no manual intervention. Getting the data specific to a phone, once the data mining specs are in place, is relatively easy, but there's an awful lot of data still to go through (the data centre in Dublin is a sight to behold!).

Each country has its own TLS (Tax Legal Statutory) requirements and what they are for VFPT I don't know, but they would include a minimum data retention period. I think it quite possible, if not requested before hand by LEA/Legal, all such connection data will have been deleted after 5 or maybe 7 years depending.

Take from this what you will...

 

[Davieson]

Servers (indeed all connected devices) are configured from a central source, so would have been done by Vodafone Portugal with whatever time they deemed correct.

That's not to say they got the time right, of course. In my time, VF UK themselves dropped some astonishing clangers with the UK network.

Presumably if the timing is in doubt, then claiming any particular time as correct would be useless.

 

[shonyakay]

Please see: MADELEINE MCCANN: ANTENNAS

Thanks for all of that info.

I did discover a cell tower that is disguised as a palm tree in PDL. I do not know what it all covers or if it was even there in 2007.

Praia da Luz, Faro - Portugal - Disguised Cell Towers on Waymarking.com

Waymarking.com is a way to mark unique locations on the planet and give them a voice. While GPS technology allows us to pinpoint any location on the planet, mark the location, and share it with others, Waymarking is the toolset for categorizing and adding unique information for that location.

www.waymarking.com

The location of it in Google is approximately 4 minutes by car from the McCann's apartment.

 

[Janosch]

Thanks for all of that info.

I did discover a cell tower that is disguised as a palm tree in PDL. I do not know what it all covers or if it was even there in 2007.

Praia da Luz, Faro - Portugal - Disguised Cell Towers on Waymarking.com

Waymarking.com is a way to mark unique locations on the planet and give them a voice. While GPS technology allows us to pinpoint any location on the planet, mark the location, and share it with others, Waymarking is the toolset for categorizing and adding unique information for that location.

www.waymarking.com

The location of it in Google is approximately 4 minutes by car from the McCann's apartment.

Thank you, @shonyakay ... If you mean this one, it did not exist in 2007.

 

[Janosch]

I think that when PJ talked about the "three antennas" they were talking of Optimus, TMN ad Vodafone ones closer to 5A.

These are (a), (b) (both at 260 meters) and (c) (at 1100 meters) in my posts.

I think from these 3 antennas PJ received all the calls for May 2, 3 and 4, 2007 (more than 74,000 communications).

 

[shonyakay]

Thank you, @shonyakay ... If you mean this one, it did not exist in 2007.

View attachment 343284

That looks like the one and it was described as being in a roundabout also.

 

[shonyakay]

This is probably the main thing I'm looking forward to hearing more about in MWT's doc.

In fact, there is irrefutable evidence from multiple witnesses that '680' was regularly used by a different man, a close friend of Brueckner's who was also based in south Portugal. Paperwork and an official document that I have seen show this was his phone – not Brueckner's. So it can't be established the suspect was even using '680' on the evening Madeleine was taken.

Madeline McCann investigator sure Christian Brueckner didn't do it

An investigator for the case of Madeline McCann says convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner (pictured) is a monster, but that he isn't responsible for the young girl's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

While it's possible that MWT has struck upon something key here, the fact there is documentation and multiple witnesses, it seems far more likely he's actually stumbled across something that the BKA already knew but were trying to keep under wraps. It will be interesting to see if they name this 'friend' in the documentary. It could well be that this person is already a key witness for the Prosecution and has told them how the phone was in CB's possession.

Interesting. In a correio da manhã article it was stated that this phone number was Christian Brueckner's in 2005.

My apologies it was actually from an article in Spiegel.

"According to a report in 2017, there were further indications. "The information at that time was not sufficient for investigations, and certainly not for an arrest," said BKA investigator Christian Hoppe in the current episode of the program on Wednesday evening. The strongest indication against B. is that a mobile phone that he used in 2005 "with a probability bordering on certainty" according to the BKA was being used at the time of the crime in the place from which Maddie disappeared."

Fall Madeleine McCann: Was über den Verdächtigen bekannt ist

13 Jahre nach dem Verschwinden von Maddie McCann haben Ermittler einen Verdächtigen ausgemacht. Was belastet den 43-Jährigen? Wie reagieren die Eltern des Mädchens? Und wo können Zeugen helfen? Der Überblick.

www.spiegel.de

 

[shonyakay]

Interesting. In a correio da manhã article it was stated that this phone number was Christian Brueckner's in 2005.

My apologies it was actually from an article in Der Spiegel.

"According to a report in 2017, there were further indications. "The information at that time was not sufficient for investigations, and certainly not for an arrest," said BKA investigator Christian Hoppe in the current episode of the program on Wednesday evening. The strongest indication against B. is that a mobile phone that he used in 2005 "with a probability bordering on certainty" according to the BKA was being used at the time of the crime in the place from which Maddie disappeared."

Fall Madeleine McCann: Was über den Verdächtigen bekannt ist

13 Jahre nach dem Verschwinden von Maddie McCann haben Ermittler einen Verdächtigen ausgemacht. Was belastet den 43-Jährigen? Wie reagieren die Eltern des Mädchens? Und wo können Zeugen helfen? Der Überblick.

www.spiegel.de

 

[Davieson]

Interesting. In a correio da manhã article it was stated that this phone number was Christian Brueckner's in 2005.

When did he go to prison for the diesel theft ?
He wouldn't be allowed his mobile while in prison, so maybe it went to his friend for safe keeping.

 

[shonyakay]

When did he go to prison for the diesel theft ?
He wouldn't be allowed his mobile while in prison, so maybe it went to his friend for safe keeping.

I believe early 2006 and let out in December 2006.

 

[shonyakay]

I have found that antenna (h) was built after june 2007, so we have to discard it.

Considering the 19:32 (Vodafone to Vodafone) call on May 3, 2007, the important antennas are now (b), (f), and (g).

(b) VODAFONE. Probably Rua 1º de Maio, 2, Luz, Lagos.
260 meters from 5A.

268-01-24-1704: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-14424: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-1709: azimuth 280º.
268-01-24-1707: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-32023: azimuth 280º.
268-01-24-14426: azimuth 280º.
268-01-24-32021: azimuth 40º.
268-01-24-1706: azimuth 280º.

(f) VODAFONE.
3000 meters from 5A.

268-01-24-11452: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-41486: azimuth 270º.
268-01-24-11453: azimuth 270º.
268-01-24-41488: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-41485: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-41489: azimuth 270º.
268-01-24-35414: azimuth 145º.
268-01-24-35415: azimuth 270º.


(g) VODAFONE.
2900 meters from 5A.

268-01-24-12811: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-42347: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-37574: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-42345: azimuth 90º.
268-01-24-42349: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-42344: azimuth 355º.
268-01-24-12813: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-37575: azimuth 90º.
268-01-24-12812: azimuth 90º.
268-01-24-42346: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-37576: azimuth 250º.
268-01-24-42348: azimuth 90º.

That three Vodafone BTS let us draw an approximate area. The question is: Were in that zone additional Vodafone BTS?

View attachment 343257

If HCW made the comment that the phone CB was said to have used, was in the radio cell, is that something different then the info from the mast? Or is that just another way of describing info from the mast?

 

[Janosch]

If HCW made the comment that the phone CB was said to have used, was in the radio cell, is that something different then the info from the mast? Or is that just another way of describing info from the mast?

Just another way of describing info from the mast.

 

[Trivento]

This is probably the main thing I'm looking forward to hearing more about in MWT's doc.

In fact, there is irrefutable evidence from multiple witnesses that '680' was regularly used by a different man, a close friend of Brueckner's who was also based in south Portugal. Paperwork and an official document that I have seen show this was his phone – not Brueckner's. So it can't be established the suspect was even using '680' on the evening Madeleine was taken.

Madeline McCann investigator sure Christian Brueckner didn't do it

An investigator for the case of Madeline McCann says convicted paedophile Christian Brueckner (pictured) is a monster, but that he isn't responsible for the young girl's disappearance.

www.dailymail.co.uk

While it's possible that MWT has struck upon something key here, the fact there is documentation and multiple witnesses, it seems far more likely he's actually stumbled across something that the BKA already knew but were trying to keep under wraps. It will be interesting to see if they name this 'friend' in the documentary. It could well be that this person is already a key witness for the Prosecution and has told them how the phone was in CB's possession.

At about 1 min 20 s into vid clip in this article is image of someone when MWT is talking about new witnesses …

New Documentary About Madeleine McCann Suspect Christian B Airs Tomorrow

It follows a detective turned investigative journalist as he carries out the first active British TV investigation into the prime suspect

www.ladbible.com

 

[C.greek]

At about 1 min 20 s into vid clip in this article is image of someone when MWT is talking about new witnesses …

New Documentary About Madeleine McCann Suspect Christian B Airs Tomorrow

It follows a detective turned investigative journalist as he carries out the first active British TV investigation into the prime suspect

www.ladbible.com

You mean the woman who is smoking? Or the person whose head we see from the back in a field (?)?

 

[C.greek]

When did he go to prison for the diesel theft ?
He wouldn't be allowed his mobile while in prison, so maybe it went to his friend for safe keeping.

I find it generally hard to accept he was using the same number since 2005 if it was a burner phone... unless it was not and he had given it to CP for safekeeping who gave it back to him after they fell outt once he got out of prison. I think CB wants to put the ph9one into CP's hands because he was a witness for the prosecution in DM's rape trial... interesting also that on the 9th/ 10th of May when he acted as interpreter in the trial of his fling he gave a German landline in Augsburg...jmo

 

[Trivento]

You mean the woman who is smoking? Or the person whose head we see from the back in a field (?)?

Was meaning the smoking lady...

 

[shonyakay]

I find it generally hard to accept he was using the same number since 2005 if it was a burner phone... unless it was not and he had given it to CP for safekeeping who gave it back to him after they fell outt once he got out of prison. I think CB wants to put the ph9one into CP's hands because he was a witness for the prosecution in DM's rape trial... interesting also that on the 9th/ 10th of May when he acted as interpreter in the trial of his fling he gave a German landline in Augsburg...jmo

Is it proven it was a burner phone or was many just speculating it was?