River I have no idea if Nick is behind all of this. Here is what I know now.
In my opinion the real owner of the maketoast site is a 19 year old kid named Brandon Havens.
On one of Brandon's websites back in 2002 he listed working on the "Maketoast" site as one of his credits. The maketoast site owned by Nick. That "credit" shortly disappeared after we found it. Brandon and Nick do know each other. Here is the site that I am talking about. Trust me the maketoast mention was there. I have a screen shot of it somewhere I believe.
http://www.mcps.org/auburn/author/Author.html
Why were we looking? Because on Forums for Justice a poster named dutch was claiming he was in Salt Lake City helping the family of Elizabeth Smart. Dutch said he was a retired detective from North Carolina who spent his own money to go to Salt Lake to help the Smarts. He posted about his meetings with them and his involvement in the Smart case.
Needless to say it was a total lie. The Smarts were not pleased that someone was claiming to be in their inner circle helping them search for Elizabeth and then posting about it. In addition to impersonating a retired police officer.
Through some great detective work by a poster named VP we found that "dutch" was really a then 17 year old kid named Brandon Havens. Brandon had given someone his number and we called it. His step-mommy answered and said Brandon was in school.
Brandon wrote me an email admitting his lies. Interestingly it was very similar to the email the new maketoast sent me admitting he was Richard.
So we know Nick (the original maketoast) and Brandon (the new maketoast) are connected from our research in 2002. I understand Nick claims he doesn't know who owns the maketoast site now. Nick is lying through his teeth because here is the text of the email Brandon sent me explaining how he has communicated with Nick and how he (Brandon) is buying the maketoast site. From Nov. 2002.
From: "Brandon K. Havens" <
offthesubject2002@yahoo.com>
To: "Tricia" <
tgrif@xmission.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: maketoast
> Tricia,
> Hey, sorry for the delay. I had a football game
> last night our last one (Senior Night for our band)
> and I am just now getting around to checking my mail.
> Maketoast. It is a wonderful site. Several months ago
> I talked to Mr. Nick Williams about buying the domain
> and the rest of the site from him. Somewhere along
> that time, "Maketoast.com" was hi-jacked as he put it
> by some of the people who own ebay.com. I didn't know
> this at the time and so I contacted Nick again about
> the domain in which he told me about it being stolen.
> I guess he had forgot to renew the name. As you might
> know, Nick was also the former owner of the
> "Offthesubject.com" domain name which he let me take
> over or registure. So I really wanted this domain so I
> had my Uncle contact Nick and ebay in which ebay has
> decided to sell us the domain name for $300. This I am
> willing to pay. So sence I am in the process of buying
> the "Maketoast.com" domain name, I told Nick that I
> would buy it and I would be willing to give it back to
> him free of charge sence it was his to begin with. He
> said not to worry about it, so I asked him about using
> the contents in the way they were before the site
> closed and he said no problem. So now I am in the
> middle of buying the domain from ebay and I now own
> the other aspects of the site. I am still willing to
> give it back to him sence they took it but he won't
> hear of it so I am planing once I finish buying
> everything, to dedicate a special page to Nick and the
> past history of Maketoast! Again sorry for the delay,
> sometimes I hate being a Senior, what to do? lol.
> Ok. If you think of something else, feel free to let
> me know.
> Best,
> -Brandon-
Fast forward to this mess. We have "maketoast" admitting to me he was Richard. I had accused the new maketoast of being Brandon. The same Brandon that posed as dutch on FFJ in the summer of 2002. Which he denied. But since Brandon is not the sharpest knife in the drawer it was easy to prove the new maketoast was Brandon. The new Maketoast tried to sell some NASCAR items on WS. The name he gave to address the money to?
BRANDON..Yes indeed. He gave his name as Brandon and then a P.O. Box listed in the same city where we called Brandon Haven's step-mommy in 2002.
The same Brandon that listed work on the original Maketoast site as one of his credits on one of his websites.
To review quickly.
Brandon posed as a retired police officer to try and insert himself in the Smart case. He admitted he was guilty of this in an email in 2002.
This same Brandon did work for the old Maketoast site owned by Nick and communicated directly with Nick concerning the purchase of the maketoast site. Even offering to let Nick have it back if he wanted. For Nick to claim he doesn't know who owns it is such a lie I am speechless.
The "new" maketoast wrote a really stupid email to me, using an alias, saying a petition was being drawn up to have me removed as the owner of WS.
The "new" maketoast admitted he wrote the petition email yet denied being Brandon.
The "new" maketoast gave his name as Brandon to people purchasing NASCAR items from him. Also gave a P.O. Box in the same town in which Brandon Havens was from.
The original maketoast, Nick, claims not to know the new maketoast. Yet the new maketoast, Brandon, did work for his site a few years ago.
The questions are many.
Why did Brandon try and buy up ACandyRose's site?
Why did Brandon, posing as someone who followed the JBR case and just now wanted to get involved, jump into WS three days after my first attempt at ownership failed.
Why did Brandon suck up to River and take all the work load off of her?
What was he trying to accomplish?
Why did Brandon write that really dumb email to me? Why did he want me gone as the owner of WS?
Why on Brandon's site
www.maketoast.com is the second most prolific poster Susan Bennett?
Why does the original owner of maketoast deny that he knows the new owner when in fact they have worked together before?
By the way in addition to the hat maketoast Brandon uses Sky Justice.
Brandon aka maketoast had IP's from not only his home state but from Atlanta and Texas. I doubt if he traveled to those areas. I am guessing he let others use his hat.
The only thing Brandon was allowed to do other than post was to delete threads and posts. He had no other privileges.
All of this stinks. As does everything in the Ramsey case.
I am still investigating and will continue to make public everything I find.
If anyone has any more information please PM me or email me at
tgrif@xmission.com
Thanks
Tricia