Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #11

[fruity]

Has this been posted? The satellite pictures were taken in Monday, so four days ago.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...lite-signals-engine.html?ICO=most_read_module


The Australian government released pictures taken by satellite on March 16 of possible plane debris seen around 2,500km (1,500miles) southwest of Perth.

 

[MsFacetious]

The first Australian plane is in the search area:

http://news.sky.com/templates/watch-live

 

[MLO]

7pm WA time is just under 3 hours away.

 

[MLO]

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/australia/perth

Link to Perth time

 

[momrids6]

Wow, interesting. Great find!

It is actually almost in the arc center...
but I have no idea what it is

 

[kimi_SFC]

:-(


http://www.abc15.com/news/national/...tralia-checking-2-objects-in-search-for-plane


"The objects are indistinct but of "reasonable size" -- the largest about 24 meters long (79 feet), said John Young, general manager of emergency response for the Australian Maritime Safety Authority. They were "probably awash with water and bobbing up and down," he said.

"If that piece of the plane is that big, maybe it's the tail section" David Gallo, who co-led the search for Air France Flight 447 which crashed in 2009 in the Indian Ocean and remained out of sight for two years. The tail height of a Boeing 777 is 60 feet."

Embedded video of presser (from article)
http://youtu.be/z8RrUFXgOTQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8RrUFXgOTQ&feature=youtu.be

 

[Soulmagent]

It is actually in almost the arc center...
but I have no idea what it is

There is more stuff in the water nearby as well.

 

[ToutCa]

Actually, I think it bolsters the theory. It's had 13 days to get that far south from wherever it crashed. In addition, in the Simple Theory: Aviate, navigate, communicate...in that order, it also explains the buses would have been pulled on transponder, and communication on purpose due to any fire...respectfully snipped

The biggest hurdle for the "fire" theory is explaining the left turn programmed at or before 1:07am.

That's only 26 minutes after take-off, just as the plane finished its initial climb and reached cruising altitude.

Why would the pilot program a sharp left turn and flight to a new (and far off-course) western waypoint so early?

If there was a problem, why didn't the pilot mention it to ATC between 1:07 and 1:19?

These signs point strongly to someone intentionally diverting the flight beginning no later than 1:07am. Could be either pilot or a cockpit intruder.

 

[kincaid]

Actually, I think it bolsters the theory. It's had 13 days to get that far south from wherever it crashed. In addition, in the Simple Theory: Aviate, navigate, communicate...in that order, it also explains the buses would have been pulled on transponder, and communication on purpose due to any fire, smoke etc but that doesn't mean the pilot did or did not have control of many different things...did his best attempt to safely land and couldn't. Maybe didn't have landing gear or couldn't get low enough to land on the 13,000 runway at Pulau Langwaki airport, flew over it (last spotted on radar) over the Malacca Straight (witnesses) and into the Indian Ocean but stayed in the air until pilot and crew was incapacitated, out of fuel or aircraft was inoperable.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-N...g-Malaysia-Airlines-flight-370/8341395247251/

But it had to turn multiple times to reach that point in the southern Indian Ocean, not just head to one waypoint. The Reuters report says the plane flew past waypoints Igari, Vampi, Gival and Igrex. The theory does not account for the plane getting to the location on the southern arc at 8:10am.

Also, ACARS was functioning enough to report that the new waypoint was entered, so why wouldn't it have reported the malfunction necessitating the emergency landing? The co-pilot spoke to air traffic control 12 minutes after the waypoint was entered.

An MH370 theory that was simple, compelling and wrong
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-26640114

 

[04009margaret]

The Orion plane that was due back 30 minutes ago has still not arrived back at base

 

[momrids6]

There is more stuff in the water nearby as well.

and there is a big ----? and a smaller ---? to the right of the big ----
a couple of panels to the right of earlier tile:

http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/mh370_indian_ocean/map/4193

 

[MsFacetious]

The Orion plane that was due back 30 minutes ago has still not arrived back at base

Where did you hear that?
It does appear to be 7:35pm in Australia. But how do we know it hasn't returned?

 

[Canadian4]

Reporter on CNN saying its 430 pm in Perth Australia, 730pm in Sydney.

 

[04009margaret]

If that's 7pm Western Australia time, it's still a few hours away.

No 7:00 pm AEST, it was reported on channel 9 A Current Affair

 

[MsFacetious]

They said all times were being reported AEDT at the press conference.
I would guess that would mean that the times they'd be returning would also be AEDT.

However, current AEDT time is 7:50pm.
Current AEST is 6:50pm.
That would make it not overdue....

James Glynn ‏@JamesGlynnWSJ 7m

US 7th fleet denies their P-8 has found debris. #mh370

 

[04009margaret]

Reporter on CNN saying its 430 pm in Perth Australia, 730pm in Sydney.

Yes, still daylight savings here until end of the month, so 3 hour difference between Sydney & Perth

 

[fruity]

I'm pretty sure it's not due back until 8pm AEDT. If it arrived just before 2pm, it could search for 2 hours before having to turn back for the 4 hour flight home. That would have it getting back at 8pm.

 

[sleepinoz]

7.50pm Sydney = 4.50pm Perth - Now

AEDT = Sydney Time (Aust Eastern Daylight Time)

 

[MLO]

I wonder why they would bring it back in while they still have hours of day light left? You'd think they would keep planes out as long as they can.

 

[fruity]

Here's the link.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/2014/03/20/15/48/debris-up-to-24m-long-found-west-of-perth

The first of the Orion planes sent out to the search area arrived about 1.50pm, with more aircraft arriving in subsequent hours.


The search planes will be able to survey the area for around two hours each before heading back for the four-hour flight to RAAF Pearce, north of Perth.