Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #14

[Rallibella]

So we are back to where we started, and have no idea where this plane is. I still am going with the theory that the plane decompressed and we have a similar situation here to the Payne Stewart one.

 

[LaLaw2000]

The entire thing is irrelevant because the fruit in question wasn’t on a flight destined for the US anyway, so US (and Canadian) regulations mean nothing.

Thank you!
You are right and it wasn't even my original point!

 

[Hatfield]

I'm trying to remember if it was on this thread or the brainstorming one, but one of two men (someone mentioned they looked like new hair cuts) had dyed his hair the night before to look more like his passport.

I am glad you caught that as I was one person that actually brought up that I think it looks like they both got the same haircut by the same barber. If you look at their right sideburns and right forehead area (their right which is on the left when looking at pictures), it sure looks like a neat trim that was done very recently and also by the same barber.
All JMO of course

I didnt mention anything about hair color but someone else may have.

 

[ilovepierre]

I totally agree with you, JaimeSommers. This whole thing with the Malaysian government has been ridiculous from the beginning.

Some days I think the plane never turned unless it was down and to the west to try to land in Viet Nam somewhere. I watched a whole series of videos of plane crashes on video yesterday. The videos were sponsored by National Geographic and others on youtube.

I watched a video on a British Airways Flight #38. Approximately 20 minutes into the video, there was mention of a Malaysian flight was being 'computer driven' (their words). The auto-pilot pulled the nose of the plane up to approximately 38,000 feet. The pilot did manage to get the plane safely down, but they were over land. That video was @
http://youtube.com/watch?v=THiegvdmU

So their are instances of the auto-pilot malfunctioning in the 777. Can't remember where the other video was, but there was an instance of the auto-pilot disengaging when bumped and the plane making a rapid descent.

I have begun to think there was an electrical fire onboard, the auto-pilot malfunctioned, drove the nose up, then rapid descent. Then everything came back online. The pilot could have tried to land the plane on the nearest land which would most likely be in Viet Nam. I think that just maybe that guy on the oil rig did actually see something. This crew and the passengers may be on dry land and desperately need rescued.

There is always a first time for everything. There may be a first time for the 777 to malfunction in a certain way.

Have we begun to build planes smarter than we are? The plane can fly itself and even land itself. What next?

I need to stick to crimes and mysteries on the ground I think!

:moo:

But none of that would explain the satellite pings between 2:11 and 8:11 am. There's no way the plane would have continued flying for 7+ hours if a fire was on board.
But then at the same time, I find the timing of the sightings by the oil rig worker and the fishermen too coincidental for it not be MH370 that they saw.
I just don't know anymore...not that I did in the beginning, either. :sigh:

 

[Momoffourboys]

Another twist if you're getting tired of the same ole 30 or 40...

"Was Malaysia Airlines #MH370 Redirected to Diego Garcia?": http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/ … Diego had no scheduled flights for 72hrs March 8th #370Qs

:tantrumlease, make it stop!:tantrum:
Just the truth. The families, the searchers...for their sake.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I hope this helps.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/black-box8.htm

If a plane crashes into the water, this beacon sends out an ultrasonic pulse that cannot be heard by human ears but is readily detectable by sonar and acoustical locating equipment. There is a submergence sensor on the side of the beacon that looks like a bull's-eye. When water touches this sensor, it activates the beacon.

The beacon sends out pulses at 37.5 kilohertz (kHz) and can transmit sound as deep as 14,000 feet (4,267 m). Once the beacon begins "pinging," it pings once per second for 30 days.

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2014/03/20/us-malaysia-airlines-blackbox-idUKBREA2J02H20140320

He said other potentially cheaper proposals included outfitting planes with floating locator or data recorder beacons that would automatically deploy if an airplane crashed.

Shoot, I believe the Indian Ocean is deeper than 14,000 feet. Add another drawback to finding this airplane.

The ELT thingys are supposed to send a signal upon hitting the water.
Someone on TV said these are maintained from the outside of the plane (routinely by maintenance crew) and does not believe the ELTs could be turned off by the crew (unless done intentionally prior to take off). When questioned the further, the person didn't know if they are maintained during a scheduled A type check or when they would have been maintained on this particular plane.
Recalling now - This topic was discussed first afaik on Greta's show on FOX. Greta hits with her questions pretty hard and stays on a topic until she gets an answer. Unfortunately, it appeared as if the person began doubting the answers they were giving and said so. Credit given for that.

So many questions, so few answers. Some of which shouldn't be so difficult to find the answers to imo.

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

The purpose of keeping a plane below 12,000 feet is to protect from radar.

Who would know this?

 

[Tiepos]

So we are back to where we started, and have no idea where this plane is. I still am going with the theory that the plane decompressed and we have a similar situation here to the Payne Stewart one.

I should change my username to “Contrary Mary” at this point. :laughitup:

That scenario has been discussed too, but the question is, if there was some sort of explosive decompression, how did the plane remain intact enough to continue flying without an active pilot for another 7+ hours? My understanding is that autopilot doesn’t work very well on damaged aircraft. And if it wasn’t an explosive decompression event after ACARS stopped transmitting, why didn’t the ACARS data indicate a pressurization failure before it stopped transmitting?

 

[Intermezzo]

no-- lime is always good. margarita anyone? i know i could use one about now !!

sure and after the Magarita I will need a Mojito

 

[LaLaw2000]

I'm sorry, folks. I am angry and upset. All of these scenarios presented by the so-called experts are totally different. They cannot all be right. I am so frustrated at hearing the same thing day after day.

GB these victims and their loved ones.

:seeya:

 

[ilovepierre]

Another twist if you're getting tired of the same ole 30 or 40...

"Was Malaysia Airlines #MH370 Redirected to Diego Garcia?": http://www.cabaltimes.com/2014/03/12/ma370-redirected-to-diego-garcia/ … Diego had no scheduled flights for 72hrs March 8th #370Qs

Some interesting things to ponder!
Not that I put much stock into some of it. The Pitbull lyrics for one....
:tyou:

 

[Intermezzo]

Does anyone know where exactly Malaysia officials are getting the information about the altitude from (45,000 feet, 28,, 500 feet)?

There has been so much confusion that I am forgetting how they got the original information.

Rolls Royce, I think..when the system on the plane was sending data about the engine to RR

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

I'm sorry, folks. I am angry and upset. All of these scenarios presented by the so-called experts are totally different. They cannot all be right. I am so frustrated at hearing the same thing day after day.

GB these victims and their loved ones.

:seeya:

We must be good responsible sleuths - Of course, we all mourn the loss of life (if there was)

 

[ilovepierre]

The purpose of keeping a plane below 12,000 feet is to protect from radar.

Who would know this?

Anyone with advanced aviation knowledge/training.
Either commercial jet pilots or even military/ex-military pilots.
Or terrorists with pilot training.

 

[Brightbird]

So we are back to where we started, and have no idea where this plane is. I still am going with the theory that the plane decompressed and we have a similar situation here to the Payne Stewart one.

Me too

 

[ilovepierre]

Shoot, I believe the Indian Ocean is deeper than 14,000 feet. Add another drawback to finding this airplane.

The ELT thingys are supposed to send a signal upon hitting the water.
Someone on TV said these are maintained from the outside of the plane (routinely by maintenance crew) and does not believe the ELTs could be turned off by the crew (unless done intentionally prior to take off). When questioned the further, the person didn't know if they are maintained during a scheduled A type check or when they would have been maintained on this particular plane.
Recalling now - This topic was discussed first afaik on Greta's show on FOX. Greta hits with her questions pretty hard and stays on a topic until she gets an answer. Unfortunately, it appeared as if the person began doubting the answers they were giving and said so. Credit given for that.

So many questions, so few answers. Some of which shouldn't be so difficult to find the answers to imo.

BBM.
The ELT will only send a signal if it is above 4 meters or on the surface of the water. If the plane did crash into the water, and the ELT was submerged deeper than 4 meters, it wouldn't have sent out a signal.

 

[AuburnSchnauzer]

I should change my username to “Contrary Mary” at this point. :laughitup:

That scenario has been discussed too, but the question is, if there was some sort of explosive decompression, how did the plane remain intact enough to continue flying without an active pilot for another 7+ hours? My understanding is that autopilot doesn’t work very well on damaged aircraft. And if it wasn’t an explosive decompression event after ACARS stopped transmitting, why didn’t the ACARS data indicate a pressurization failure before it stopped transmitting?

I already know what happened. I originally thought both pilots, but not now.

 

[khaki]

once again we have breaking news on CNN...they're saying that after the sharp left turn, the plane dropped 12,000 feet, and this information is a game changer ?

 

[panthera]

So we are back to where we started, and have no idea where this plane is. I still am going with the theory that the plane decompressed and we have a similar situation here to the Payne Stewart one.

It would explain some of what happened, however, what doesn't quite fit in is manually disengaging the transponder, ACARS and the change of direction.

MOO

 

[CARIIS]

Originally Posted by Elley Mae [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=10369821#post10369821"]

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And two passengers boarded using stolen passports: Pouria Nourmohammadi Mehrdad, 19, and Seyed Mohammed Reza Delavar, 29, Iranian men described by Interpol as migrants being smuggled into Europe.


humm what did the 9-11 guys say students!