ElleElle
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Helicopters don't fly in bad weather do they?
I guess if the waters are very rough, the helicopters won't be able to see anything close up?
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Helicopters don't fly in bad weather do they?
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"However the Classic Aero system still sent hourly ‘pings’ back to Inmarsat’s satellite for at least five hours after the aircraft left Malaysian airspace, the company discovered.
These pings contained no data – they were just a simple ‘hello’ to keep the link open – however their timing and frequency contained hidden mathematical clues.
The company looked at the ‘Doppler effect’ – tiny changes in the frequency of the ping signal, caused by the relative movement of the satellite and the plane (the Doppler effect is the reason why, for example, police sirens are a different pitch or frequency depending on whether they are travelling toward you or away from you)."
http://www.smh.com.au/world/mh370-s...ne-was-lost-20140325-hvme8.html#ixzz2wvz19mBG
Thanks Elle, I feel better already, got to spend 2 days with my daughter and grandson! :loveyou: Glad to be back... and I came back with a HUGE post, huh!
It's the newspapers and MSM, also Malaysia government that is making it out to be something horrible that he deleted those files. It's nothing though, de nada! :scared: I just get so upset at the MSM for making something out of nothing and possibly ruining the name of a good man.
Caught up now. I think last evening's announcement that it is beyond reasonable doubt that the plane crashed into the Southern Indian Ocean has been timed just prior to the expected arrival of the HMAS Success to pick up the debris that was sighted yesterday. I think they are pretty sure what that debris is and they would have photographed it and studied it.
That's not now going to happen today because of the bad weather.
I think the finding of some identifiable wreckage is needed for the families to enable them to accept what they were told last night. Until then, they have little tangible evidence they can see with their own eyes.
I am sure they will find wreckage, if it's been floating for 2 weeks now, it will likely float for a bit longer and there are lots of "assets" looking for it and more on the way.
What I don't like the chances of is finding the sunken wreckage and the black box. They will be very lucky to ever find it I think.
The British fellow in charge of determining air disasters in Europe was on CNN several times today and said that he in NO way told the Malay government what they told the families today. He said we cannot be sure of the fate of those 239 people without the plane and the black boxes, not to mention bodies if possible... real proof which we do not have now.
bbm
Let me just say that I am verrrrrrryyyyyyy unsure as to whether Malaysia is telling the truth about whether it was actually the co-pilot who said "all right, good night," the last communication.
Malaysian officials are saying they have verified that it's the co-pilot. No independent source has confirmed it.
These are the same people that gave us a doctored-up photo of the Iranian man, with his legs cut off the image and the other man's legs pasted on, and claim that it's just a "photocopy" error.
I saw the copy of the supposed transcript on the Telegraph, and I posted that IMO, it could be that that was NOT the co-pilot who said "all right, good night." In every other response to an instruction he was given by ATC, he would reply with "copy that" in some part of his answer, to show that he understood them.
His last answer, "all right, good night" was in response to an instruciton by ATC, yet he did not include "copy that" in it.
JMO.
As far as the transcript is concerned, the technical committee is considering releasing it and we will keep you informed about the decision.
Good to see you again! :loveyou:
Agree, and I never put much credence in the report he had deleted files either, even if gaming wasn't involved. Personally I'm of the opinion that something occurred on board the aircraft and the pilots were attempting to correct it, or save the plane, or not cause any further damage or loss of lives by crashing on land. If this is true, bless them for trying.
MOO
Money. And IMO this is why the Malay government dashed the hopes of all those family members.... Get them out of the hotels and not have to pay for them anymore. Shameless I say!
Was this British fellow the one who presented the theory to Malay govt?
Did the Malay govt interpret wrongly or did they make it go the way they wanted it to go?!
I would need physical proof, not a conclusion and certainly not an assumption.
I guess if the waters are very rough, the helicopters won't be able to see anything close up?
]I never believed the debris are from the plane, and they knew the weather patterns in advance. [/B]
IF WE can look up the weather for the next 10 days I am certain they can too, now its the weather? BS.
THAT ENTIRE FIASCO in my opinion is a diversion and that is it, just a diversion.
FIND WHAT? thy cant find a huge plane, or 239 people and are on a race to find a black box.
SURE, sure....:twocents:
BBM
I noticed it seemed odd, as well.
My thoughts on it:
1. The transcript was translated from English to Chinese, then back to English, so there could have been something lost in all of those translations
2. He could have been losing consciousness due to hypoxia, since he also repeated the altitude
3. As you said, it was someone other than the co-pilot
It would be really nice to hear what transpired, but we probably never will. Malaysia Airlines posted this earlier today:
http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/dark-site.html
Caught up now. I think last evening's announcement that it is beyond reasonable doubt that the plane crashed into the Southern Indian Ocean has been timed just prior to the expected arrival of the HMAS Success to pick up the debris that was sighted yesterday. I think they are pretty sure what that debris is and they would have photographed it and studied it.
That's not now going to happen today because of the bad weather.
I think the finding of some identifiable wreckage is needed for the families to enable them to accept what they were told last night. Until then, they have little tangible evidence they can see with their own eyes.
I am sure they will find wreckage, if it's been floating for 2 weeks now, it will likely float for a bit longer and there are lots of "assets" looking for it and more on the way.
What I don't like the chances of is finding the sunken wreckage and the black box. They will be very lucky to ever find it I think.
Just a question - at various times we have been told this plane flew at different altitudes dodging radar, shadowed another plane, followed waypoints (is that the correct word), flew in the dark - all after the "all right, good night" response. Is it possible for a plane to do all these things on autopilot? TIA
Yes, I am not thrilled with Malaysia, and doesn't seem like the loved ones are either.
I believe you cannot grieve until you have acceptance and closure.
Just a question - at various times we have been told this plane flew at different altitudes dodging radar, shadowed another plane, followed waypoints (is that the correct word), flew in the dark - all after the "all right, good night" response. Is it possible for a plane to do all these things on autopilot? TIA