Malaysia airlines plane may have crashed 239 people on board #20

[gregjrichards]

Breaking news

Malaysia Airlines says it has lost contact with a plane travelling from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing, with 239 people on board.

The airline said in a statement that flight MH370 disappeared at 02:40 local time on Saturday (18:40 GMT on Friday).

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-26492748

I'm praying the plane is found and people on the plane survive.

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[LambChop]

Please continue here.....

 

[Isabelle]

Anyone catch the PC? Thanks.

 

[gregjrichards]

UPDATE - Press conference started CNN showed it live.

No news from press conference PM Abbott said it is the most difficult search in history.

CNN Breaking News ‏@cnnbrk 4m

Search for #MH370 is "the most difficult in human history," Australian PM says.

theSun ‏@theSundaily 2m

#MH370: Malaysia will not rest until it can give answers to the distraught families of those on board. – Najib

 

[Brightbird]

I think the PC is at this link too.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/abcnews24/

 

[Amee]

ABC News 24 ‏@ABCNews24 30s

Watch LIVE: PM @TonyAbottMHR & Malaysian PM Najib Razak giving an update on the search for missing Malaysia Airlines flight #MH370.

 

[Momoffourboys]

Anyone catch the PC? Thanks.

On CNN right now.

 

[JerseyGirl]

going back to the mangosteens (sorry ), MSM misspoke and there were not TONS of mangosteens on the plane, but TONNES of mangosteens:

They are also retracing every piece of cargo that was loaded on to the Boeing 777, including tonnes of mangosteens, a tropical Asian fruit with a leathery shell surrounding fragrant white flesh.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/police-...ssing-plane-20140403-zqq33.html#ixzz2xnAHK3TB

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The tonne is a metric system unit of mass equal to 1,000 kilograms (2,204.6 pounds) or 1 megagram (1 Mg).

bbm

 

[Soulmagent]

going back to the mangosteens (sorry ), MSM misspoke and there were not TONS of mangosteens on the plane, but TONNES of mangosteens:

They are also retracing every piece of cargo that was loaded on to the Boeing 777, including tonnes of mangosteens, a tropical Asian fruit with a leathery shell surrounding fragrant white flesh.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/police-...ssing-plane-20140403-zqq33.html#ixzz2xnAHK3TB

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The tonne is a metric system unit of mass equal to 1,000 kilograms (2,204.6 pounds) or 1 megagram (1 Mg).

bbm

Wow so that is even more mangosteens then before!.

I think ,i am not that good with math.:candle:

 

[Momoffourboys]

Very sad.
Tragedy brings people together. IMO

 

[Soulmagent]

China and Malaysia are trying to patch things up, but an armed kidnapping at a dive resort won’t help

http://qz.com/194997/china-and-malaysia-are-trying-to-patch-things-up-but-an-armed-kidnapping-at-a-dive-resort-wont-help/

 

[Hatfield]

going back to the mangosteens (sorry ), MSM misspoke and there were not TONS of mangosteens on the plane, but TONNES of mangosteens:

They are also retracing every piece of cargo that was loaded on to the Boeing 777, including tonnes of mangosteens, a tropical Asian fruit with a leathery shell surrounding fragrant white flesh.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/police-...ssing-plane-20140403-zqq33.html#ixzz2xnAHK3TB

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The tonne is a metric system unit of mass equal to 1,000 kilograms (2,204.6 pounds) or 1 megagram (1 Mg).

bbm

I am more and more convinced that Malaysia just needs a professional public relations spokesperson as well as to do some self analyzing of how they themselves are handling things and quit tooting their own horn so much.

I cannot believe what I am reading at that link. Here are some gems in this report.

“For example when we knew there was a load of mangosteens on board we had to find out where the mangosteens came from,” he said. “We tracked down who plucked the fruits, who packed them and shipped them out, who put them on the plane.”

I am no air crash investigator but I would bet good money that the person that plucked the fruit didnt bring that plane down.
Here is where they start to toot their own horn again.

"Imagine how many people we must interview and that was just the mangosteens,” he said."

Yeah, I suppose when you needlessly go that far, it is a lot of people.


"Police have refused to publicly release the plane’s cargo manifest but it is known to include a consignment of lithium-ion batteries that have previously been blamed for causing fires on aircraft. "

How about thinking about possibly putting too much weight and using a passenger plane as a cargo run. With tons of mangosteens + batteries + all the people and their luggage ithey may have overloaded that plane to unsafe levels.

And finally...


“There were weaknesses in the co-ordination between different departments and contradictory statements were given,” Mr Huang said....snipped....."
Mr Huang accused Western media of playing a disgraceful role.
“They have published false news, stoked conflict and even spread rumours,” he said. “These could provoke the frail spirits of the next of kin...snipped"


Uhhhhhh.....How about your self-admitted contradictory statements that have angered next of kin.

They just need a different spokesperson because they do not do themselves any favors by what they say. This is no place to toot your own horn or critisize other news media until that plane is found.

 

[kittymeow]

I just feel like it won't be found. This situation and timeline is so unlike any other comparable situation. Even for Air France it took 2 years to get all the answers and they even knew the crash site within 2 weeks. Things aren't looking good. their poor families. they need closure

 

[redheadedgal]

interesting video on AC360 about the black boxes, what they're made of, how they work, etc.:

http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2014/04/01/whats-inside-of-a-black-box/?hpt=ac_bn2

 

[alioop]

Wikipedia's report on MH370 which provides a good summary.

Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[marlywings]

Australia to represent Malaysia in MH370 investigation

April 3, 2014 - 7:42PM

Australia has agreed to be an “accredited representative” of Malaysia in the investigation into missing Malaysian Airlines Flight MH370, a development that could lead to the lengthy probe into the jet's disappearance being based here.

The announcement was made by Malaysia’s Prime Minister Najib Razak on his visit to Perth on Thursday and came as the search zone was “further refined” and shifted north as aircraft, ships and a nuclear submarine continued the hunt for remnants of the passenger plane

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...vestigation-20140403-zqqaz.html#ixzz2xoWlsvBR

 

[Derryn Hunch]

Question: Since 911, here in the US we now have FDO's (armed pilots on many flights) They go through a sign in process with our airport LEO's and then are escorted to their planes. Do other countries allow/do this?

Sorry, just saw this...

No idea on the facts and regs of this sorry... I think the US still employ "Air Marshall" services, but I have a feeling they've been wound back a bit...

I think Australia trialed it for a bit there, but again, I have a feeling it was scaled back to almost nil...

I aren't sure one this one either, but I have a feeling that there is provision for aircrews to carry handcuffs and possibly a pistol in a lock box. Not 100% on the gun provision though, pretty certain on the cuffs.