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ilovepierre said:
ITA.
I'm not on the "pilot did it" bandwagon, either.
Never have been.
Just because he had strong political views, doesn't mean he's going to hijack a plane full of people.
Plus the plane was mostly Chinese. If the pilot wanted to lash out at his own government, why would he bother to take out the Chinese on the plane?
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JMO
Because people set on doing something terrible for their own beliefs dont give one iota about other people. All they care about is their own personal agenda.

Just like in the 911 terrorist act where even innocent muslims were victims.
 
revampz said:
Haha....yes I am in Townsville, so you get to know all about the "northern approach"

re a couple of tweets a couple of pages back.......ie Malaysia is saying this is an act of terrorism

Israel preparing for plane to be used against them...

etc

do you have a feeling that something else is known for them now to be actually using the word terrorism.....and where the hell did Israel come from all of a sudden???

Got to say that I don't think the pilots are involved in terrorism...especially to do with Israel....no way, IF it was the pilot (captain) my thought is it re his political views in Malaysia.....suppose tho that could be considered terrorism
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Israel has been the known target for days. The 777 plane, perhaps loaded with nukes, may be found in Tel Aviv. Terror threats are to Israel. Other countries to cooperate.

I am not a reporter and do not play one on here. This is omo.
 
I've been following this case obsessively but I haven't posted about it yet because I just have no idea what happened! I mean I feel like I can't even begin to guess.

About the pilot I've seen many people insist he is involved but I've been wondering why people who seem to think he is believe it's entirely him. If you want to think about all different sorts of theories then I don't find it impossible to believe that maybe he was held hostage in a way, perhaps a group approached him and told him he had to fly the plane as he was told or else they'd kill him/his family/the passengers. The whole political thing really bugs me only because it seems like something the Malaysian government might throw out to make him/the other party look bad since he was pro-opposition. I mean we can't count anything out but right now that's just how it seems to me.

I go back and forth between believing the plane is at the bottom of some ocean somewhere or stripped down in a hanger. At first obviously I believed it to just be a crash and I still somewhat believe that a small fire causing mechanical failure and crew incapacitation can't be ruled out, but piracy seems more and more likely to me too. I find it hard to believe that Iran would be involved simply because they have very good relations with Malaysia and pretty good with China too so I don't know why they'd want to ruin that unless they thought for sure they'd never be caught.
 
Spellbound said:
Earlier reports say this plane was not equipped to use cell phones
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I still don't buy the 777 would not be able to ping cell phone towers.

I cannot find any information on this matter that makes sense to me.
 
I think terrorism is possible, but I'm still not on the Muslims did it bandwagon. I'm not the type to blame Muslims, illegals and single mothers for all the problems of the world though.

I was watching a show last night about Flight 1771- A disgruntled ex-employee shot the pilots and drove the plane into the ground. The plane travelled faster than the speed of sound and disintegrated so that all that was left was paper, a bit of the gun and a small bit of a seat. No bodies or luggage or seats. I wonder if something like that is possible- the plane went down in a secluded area and there is no real wreckage to be found.

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Southwest_Airlines_Flight_1771"]Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
 
The only people I have ruled out on that plane are the Children. We know somebody gained or had control of that plane.
 
revampz said:
This was reported a couple of days ago.....however they never mentioned that one was a pilot!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! well that could be our answer.
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He would definitely have the know-how to shut down communications and he'd probably know the routes to fly to avoid detection. :eek:
 
ilovepierre said:
The planes on 9/11 were over the city and flying low enough for cell phones to pick up a signal.

On MH370, once over the ocean, signals would have been lost due to there being no cell towers.
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Yes, but wouldn't flying at 500 feet ping towers?! Sorry, if i'm sounding like a broken record, but I do believe the families etc. when they say the MH370's passenger's cell phones were ringing.
 
MLO said:
I think terrorism is possible, but I'm still not on the Muslims did it bandwagon. I'm not the type to blame Muslims, illegals and single mothers for all the problems of the world though.

I was watching a show last night about Flight 1771- A disgruntled ex-employee shot the pilots and drove the plane into the ground. The plane travelled faster than the speed of sound and disintegrated so that all that was left was paper, a bit of the gun and a small bit of a seat. No bodies or luggage or seats. I wonder if something like that is possible- the plane went down in a secluded area and there is no real wreckage to be found.

Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Can a 777 travel that fast to cause disintegration to that extent? The plane mentioned in that Wiki article was considerably smaller than a 777.
 
txsvicki said:
If the pilot trained other people with the simulator he could have been conned by a terrorist to enter into some plot and it all went to a suicide mission instead of a protest and hostage situation. Either that or there was mental illness, if the pilot did anything at all. The copilot could also be culprit, evidenced by living it up before the actual mission to do this.
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I agree. And instead of being "conned", the pilot could have willingly trained other like minded people and may have been a very willing participant.

From the news, it sounded like he was wealthy. I know pilots get paid good, however, I am not sure they get paid well enough to be as affluent as the news made it out to be. He may have gotten additional funds from terrorist groups and he may have enjoyed those benefits and maybe became a key player.
 
ElleElle said:
Yes, but wouldn't flying at 500 feet ping towers?! Sorry, if i'm sounding like a broken record, but I do believe the families etc. when they say the MH370's passenger's cell phones were ringing.
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Not if they were over the ocean. How close to land where they flying 500 feet? I'm not discounting that the passengers' phones were ringing either. Mine still rings even when I'm out of a service area.
 
Does anyone know if this plane was the type that ad monitors in the backs of seats? I usually use Seat Guru to check this, but the already removed MH 370 from their active flight list.

I ask because those TVs usually have a flight map channel where you can watch the flight path, speed and altitude of the plane. I wonder if the passages would have noticed that way that something wasn't right? I just keep thinking about 239 people not knowing what was going on.

If the pilots (or persons in cockpit) did all this, and there were no terrorists fighting their way into the cockpit somehow, I wonder if the passengers knew anything was wrong? If the cockpit door was sealed, there would be nothing the could do to stop it right? I guess they could open a door, but while that would kill the passengers buy depresserizing the plane, would it kill the pilots too? Take the whole plane down?

I keep thinking, if the passengers and crew knew something was wrong, but the wrong was behind a locked cockpit door, is there anything you could do?
 
revampz said:
I am with you.....I don't want to think it is the pilot, because by all accounts he sounds like a very nice man....(friends reports, fundraising for the poor etc).....but everything just seems too much of a coincidence....
I said this the other day as well.... He flew hours after attending that trial...he certainly would have not been happy.....however I do hope it wasn't him...
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Wasn't it the Captain whose daughter was sending those sweet "tweets" the first day - Daddy come home? Heart-breaking - if he *is* involved - how horrible for her. :(
 
ElleElle said:
I still don't buy the 777 would not be able to ping cell phone towers.

I cannot find any information on this matter that makes sense to me.
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Why would it ping cell phone towers??? Its a plane, not a mobile phone.
 
ilovepierre said:
ITA.
I'm not on the "pilot did it" bandwagon, either.
Never have been.
Just because he had strong political views, doesn't mean he's going to hijack a plane full of people.
Plus the plane was mostly Chinese. If the pilot wanted to lash out at his own government, why would he bother to take out the Chinese on the plane?
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Yes, he would of taken the plane from Beijing-KL not KL-Beijing.

As revampz said above, the pilot interests were the Malaysian gov't, not innocent people.

He might as have turned MH370 and hit the Petronas. He had no need to go "off the radar" for a long period of time, like now.

I also believe now, the FS is just a red herring.
 
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